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The GOP needs a brokered convention in 2008
vanity | January 22, 2008 | neverdem

Posted on 01/22/2008 8:38:59 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Jim Robinson
Question will be, which way will Huckabee’s Evangelicals break?

I foresee a third party run by Alan Keyes. I've seen that since he announced his candidacy. And if it happens, it could very well put a Democrat in the White House like Perot's run did.

61 posted on 01/23/2008 5:13:24 AM PST by Spiff
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To: WOSG
Florida is winner take all. McCain is in the lead, Romney is #2.

Where do you get this? Romney has delegate lead and is leading in Fla.

62 posted on 01/23/2008 5:17:03 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: neverdem

In a brokered convention, the party hacks and New York Rockefeller socialists will give us McCain.


63 posted on 01/23/2008 5:18:24 AM PST by sergeantdave (The majority of Michigan voters are that stupid and the condition is incipient and growing.)
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To: Dreagon

I still think that Mitt will pick better judges than Hillary or Bamamania.


64 posted on 01/23/2008 5:22:14 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: dschapin

If Thompson wanted our votes he could have at least pretended to like us. He didn’t bother to go to the value voters debate - which is what got Huckabee’s momentum going btw - he came out against the Human Life Amendment, he blew off Dr. Dobson, and he made a big deal about not going to church.

I am not sure what he was trying to prove by all this. It turned many people off (except FREDHEADS).


65 posted on 01/23/2008 5:32:07 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: ari-freedom

and Fred’s 100% pro-life record meant nothing. the NRLC endorsement meant nothing. Welcome back, Carter.

Apparently outside of FR it did not mean much.


66 posted on 01/23/2008 5:33:02 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: neverdem
Which politician has the most talent in deception...? The way things are shaping up that will be the next president. Now most religious denominations want their organizational set up established in WDC and that includes the secular populists. The majority of politicians are students of human nature and study their ‘victims’ voters wants, desires, and lusts and each audience gets told that is what the politician candidate will provide.

Right now the directional wind appears to be blowing in Hillary’s direction. Why... she is protected and has the networking well established and an unlimited cash flow. She is experienced and has that old lovable sinner hubby that the majority of Americans love to see elevated and she did religiously speaking stand by her man. The Clintons are well studied in human nature and they have polled US nearly to death so they know up front what they can say and who they can point the ugly finger of accusation for the blame.

All the Clintons need is to pull that thorn Obama out of their side and gather under their wing that attention needing, above it all, Independents.

President Bush has become the personification of warmonger and ‘evil’ protector of the rich. Even though President Bush moved farther to the left under a compassionate dress than any Republican president since Nixon started many of these leftist governmental regulated programs.

Sadly these politicians do represent the majority of Americans.

67 posted on 01/23/2008 5:40:43 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: sergeantdave
In a brokered convention, the party hacks and New York Rockefeller socialists will give us McCain.

It appears it is McCain or Romney now without a convention. I said we can't do worse. Who wants to help a RINO. Draft Coburn instead!

68 posted on 01/23/2008 6:58:12 AM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

” Romney has delegate lead and is leading in Fla.”

I sure hope he is, but RCP poll average had McCain up by 2pts or so ... Romney needs a little ‘mo’ to get over the top there.

Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!


69 posted on 01/23/2008 10:04:42 AM PST by WOSG (Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!)
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To: Ol' Sparky

“Some people actually believe these values issues are more important than other issues and want someone to champion them rather than give lip service to them.”

Yes, even though I disagree with Huck on a lot of issues (ie he’s not conservative on fiscal/economic issues) and found him therefore objectionable, that was/is the thinking of social conservatives. It was unfair IMHO to Thompson but it is what it is.

The whole point of the Reagan coalition of social, fiscal and national security conservatives is that all elements of the agenda need to be addressed. We cant push one group in the corner. The Huckaboom was reaping the harvest that was sown with the Rudy run. Thankfully, both Huck and Rudy are fading and the ‘Reagan coalition’ may yet endure, albeit wobbly, under Romney and/or McCain.

Unity is strength.


70 posted on 01/23/2008 10:11:46 AM PST by WOSG (Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!)
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To: coalman

Feel free to paint any other realistic scenario. I don’t see it. It’s either McCain or Romney right now.

The only other guy collecting delegates was Huckabee, and he’s out of money, out of credibility, and out of new voters to appeal to.


71 posted on 01/23/2008 10:16:38 AM PST by WOSG (Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!)
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To: TeleStraightShooter

PING for fascinating graphic.


72 posted on 01/23/2008 10:17:39 AM PST by WOSG (Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!)
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To: napscoordinator

“I still think that Mitt will pick better judges than Hillary or Bamamania.”

Yes, the guy endorsed by Judge Robert Bork (Romney) will definitely be a better selector of Federal Judges than the two folks who try to out-do each other on how pro-abortion they are. Romney will be more reliable than McCain as well, based on their relative reactions to gay marriage and Romney’s support for FMA while McCain voted against it. (viz santorum’s comments on McCain that McCain never wanted social issues to come to a vote in the senate).


73 posted on 01/23/2008 10:20:21 AM PST by WOSG (Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Leaves McCain and Romney. Looks like Romney will be picking up the majority of the support from the dropped out conservatives Tancredo, Hunter and Thompson, but surprisingly, McCain is hanging in there. Question will be, which way will Huckabee’s Evangelicals break?”

Leading The News Sen. McCain starts urgent dash for cash
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1957946/posts

McCain won’t last too much longer.

Very soon, perhaps as soon as just after Florida, it will be Romney - the guy who supported abortion, gun control, and amnesty, until the moment he decided to run for the presidency... vs Ron Paul, who has been consistently conservative on all 3 of those major issues.


74 posted on 01/23/2008 10:28:06 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Ron Paul 2008 - for liberty! - http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/)
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To: WOSG

“Yes, the guy endorsed by Judge Robert Bork (Romney) will definitely be a better selector of Federal Judges than the two folks who try to out-do each other on how pro-abortion they are. Romney”

Bork is against the RKBA - he thinks the 2nd amendment doesn’t guarantee us the right to arms. The NRA came out against his nomination for that reason.

He also called the 9th amendment an “ink blot” without meaning.

No wonder he supports Mittens.


75 posted on 01/23/2008 10:29:52 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Ron Paul 2008 - for liberty! - http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/)
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To: WOSG
yeah, it blew me away when I saw it here last week.

The composers crunched the numbers based on voting trends over the years and not just the 2000 or 2004 POTUS election.

76 posted on 01/23/2008 10:32:48 AM PST by TeleStraightShooter (The Right To Take Life is NOT a Constitutional "Liberty" protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
McCain has a C+ from the NRA. Romney has a B from the NRA and Mitt's gun bill in Mass was endorsed by the NRA. Clearly, the other options (McCain or Rudy) are far worse on this issue (as well as many other issues!).

Questioned about gun control, McCain said existing laws should be enforced, noting that the Clinton Administration has been "derelict" in doing that. But he also said that he supported the recent gun control legislation passed by the Senate and he also said that in light of the recent spate of shootings, new proposals by the Clinton Administration should be looked at by Congress and not dismissed out of hand. http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/08/18/president.2000/thompson.mccain/

McCain flipped on guns
Senator McCain supported the interests of the Gun Owners of America 0 percent in 2005. (that's not good!)
Senator McCain supported the interests of the Gun Owners of America 100 percent in 2006. (wow, what a convenient flip!)
Based on lifetime voting records on gun issues and the results of a questionnaire sent to all Congressional candidates in 2004, the National Rifle Association assigned Senator McCain a grade of C+ (with grades ranging from a high of A+ to a low of F).

http://www.freerepublic.com/~unmarkedpackage/#guns

77 posted on 01/23/2008 10:33:20 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate ( United 4 Mitt - 2 Stop McCain, Huck & Rudy)
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To: WOSG

Mostly right, but McCain supposedly just doesn’t have the money to compete on Feb. 5 in all states. He’ll have to pick and choose, so he’d have to not only win, but win big in Florida to be able to “sweep the table.” Now, it’s possible that in the next week, he’ll rais $25 million, but that doesn’t seem that likely, especially since most of his potential supporters have probably already donated to Hillary or Obama.

Giuliani is not flush with cash, either.

And Huckabee is almost broke.


78 posted on 01/23/2008 10:35:17 AM PST by B Knotts (If McCain wins, we lose.)
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To: napscoordinator
Can’t really change the rules after they are made.

Nope, not if you're a conservative. However, leftists have no problem changing the rules if they aren't getting the outcomes that they like. (Fla 2000)

79 posted on 01/23/2008 10:36:59 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: neverdem
If the Republicans end up so bitterly divided that the only recourse left becomes a brokered convention, they are probably going to lose in the general.

Having said that, the Republicans are so bitterly divided that they are probably going to lose this one anyway. The only question that remains is, how badly will that loss be?

Before you accuse me of being a pessimist or helping the 'rats win, I'll be voting Republican in November, be it Romney, McCain, Huckabee, or Giuliani. I'll do what it takes.

But - this year - it may take more than we all have. I wish that weren't so.

- John

80 posted on 01/23/2008 10:44:24 AM PST by Fishrrman
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