someplace, that FPOS Riady is smiling...
Posted on 01/23/2008 5:59:25 PM PST by Kaslin
Scandals: Hillary Clinton calls President Bush's talks with the Saudis about increasing oil output "pathetic." But it's not as pathetic as her co-president husband locking up billions of tons of clean coal in exchange for political contributions.
A large part of America's energy dependence on foreign sources can be traced to Sept. 18, 1996, when President Bill Clinton stood on the edge of the Grand Canyon on the Arizona side and signed an executive proclamation making 1.7 million acres of Utah a new national monument.
Why would he dedicate a Utah monument while standing in Arizona? Well, this federal land grab was done without any consultation with the governor of Utah or any member of the Utah congressional delegation or any elected official in the state. The unfriendly Utah natives might have spoiled his photo-op.
The state already had six national monuments, two national recreation areas and all or part of five national forests. Three-quarters of Utah already was in federal hands. Still, the land grab was sold as a move to protect the environment.
(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com ...
The Grand Escalante Staircase locked up ALL of our good coal.
THIS WHOLE article needs to be on every FREAKING Clinton thread! NO ONE remembers all this stuff....let’s REMIND people...OK??? Will you do that? Post this on the threads?? Put the nmae of JAMES RIADY in the title.
At a time when the rest of the low ash lignite was either in Kosovo or Indonesia, the latter belonging to Riyady (sp?) of the Lippo group, if my memory serves. It was a payback for support for Bill that the only mineable deposit belonged to Riyady.
Please pass this info on to remind freepers and Enemedia lurkers what Clinton did...thanks.
KOSOVO????? Is there a correlation since we went into Kosovo???hmmmmmmm
Remember this?
“President Bush is over in the Gulf now begging the Saudis and others to drop the price of oil. How pathetic.”
the cost of oil came down considerably today
Did you read the whole article?? Just curious becuae this story is WAAAAAYYY bigger than what Hillary said and waaaaayy bigger than our oil coming down today.
Actually {for the IBD's edification}, all of the Grand Canyon is in Arizona, as is all of Marble Canyon of which the Colorado river flows through beforehand.
That aside, the yellowBelly weasle billyJeffClinton was about 100 miles from the land he was grabbing.
IIRC, since then the sheriff's of Utah's Kane & Garfield counties rescinded the right of the BLM to enforce their insane limitations on motor vehicle travel with the monument..
As a matter of fact I have driven through the staircase several times and it's natural beauty is a wonder to behold.
From what I gather full scale underground mining operations would leave a tiny foot print on the 1.7 million acre monument.
Agreed, and for those that do remember those days its important to keep it simple:
2. Riady is a billionaire who funneled illegal campaign money to clinton.
3. Riady controls the second the largest deposit of this “clean coal”.
4. Lrgest deposit (in US) was made off limits when clinton declared the area a national park.
Why didnt president bush just rescind this executive order?
Ditto that. By the way, if you are ever driving through that area, the scenery is spectacular, and the BLM facilities along Hwy 89 have nice bathrooms. Watch out for speed traps in Kanab.
Yes. This was very obvious at the time. Regretably, when the Bush administration came in it did NOTHING to reverse it, beyond a short period of mumbling about the issue, and the press certainly won’t say anything about it.
What was done in clintonoid fashion, “Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Cool!” could have been undone with a similar stroke of the pen. But it certainly won’t happen now in the next nine months.
We have wasted 8 years without any real effort to solve the energy crisis. Sure, the Democrats obstructed at every turn, and sure, Bush put forward an energy bill every year for 5 or 6 years, but no real effort was made to explain the need for opening ANWR, for developing clean coal, or for cutting the red tape on new refineries. Or, of course, the most realistic solution, nuclear power.
The Dems were allowed to get away with blocking any useful initiative, with the help of a few pestilent RINOs like Lincoln Chaffee. Yet Bush did nothing to punish Chaffee or deprive him of pork, and even supported him in the primary for re-election.
No way the media will ever publicize this story. It’s a dead issue for them. It needs to be shoved down their throats.
Just remember, with BJ and Hell in the office, there is no such thing as Mutually Assured Destruction. We are wide open.
“......would leave a tiny foot print on the 1.7 million acre monument......”
Sounds a lot like ANWR
someplace, that FPOS Riady is smiling...
people deserve what they put up with.
For a good example look to the coal mining area around Price Ut; one has to look hard to find the coal mines that are wedged up into a few canyons
It does take longer though, and you need a trail rated ride.
“Why didnt president bush just rescind this executive order?”
I don’t know why but it isn’t as if the coal is being destroyed. It is there for the future, at least. And now it can be a major campaign problem for Billary. ;o)
The article raises valid points, but the overall premise is completely flawed. Coal is not a substitute for oil; it’s most practical use is in power generation — which means it’s an alternative to natural gas, not oil.
i agree ann. i will post on the arkansas times blog-which of course the liberal whiners on there will hate me, but then i take that as a compliment any way :)
Hear! Hear!
THANKS!!
Went to Zion and Bryce Canyon.....WOW...BRYCE is UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!
THANKS for making that so simple!!
Indeed. Thanks for the ping!
Read it and weep for our country because these hideous people are going to have absolute power AGAIN.
could you ask Hillary about this scandal??/:)
Ping again for Enemedia lurkers!!
Kosovo has this coal, so was this the reason we went into Kosovo??
MSM PING
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1. So called “clean coal” is a type that releases less pollution than regular coal when burned.
2. Riady is a billionaire who funneled illegal campaign money to clinton.
3. Riady controls the second the largest deposit of this “clean coal”.
4. Lrgest deposit (in US) was made off limits when clinton declared the area a national park.
Something like 50% of our electrical energy come from coal. They kiboshed Nuclear, these Nukes could have replaced the Coal. This clean Coal could be turned into Diesel via the Fisher-Tropsch process and reduced our dependence on Foreign Oil. If you went a step further, replace the gas fired plants with Nukes and use the Natural Gas for Cars. Presto-instant-Chango we are off the Saudi Teet.
It is enough to make you scream and the chain of events they stopped or will not let happen, and they want back in power.
n fact, the declaration of 1.7 million Utah acres as a national monument, thereby depriving an energy-starved U.S. up to 62 billion tons of environmentally safe low-sulfur coal worth $1.2 trillion and minable with minimal surface impact, was a political payoff to the family of James Riady.
He’s the son of Lippo Group owner Mochtar Riady. James was found guilty of — and paid a multimillion dollar fine for — funneling more than $1 million in illegal political contributions through Lippo Bank into various American political campaigns, including Bill Clinton’s presidential run in 1992.
Clinton took off the world market the largest known deposit of clean-burning coal. And who owned and controlled the second-largest deposit in the world of this clean coal? The Indonesian Lippo Group of James Riady. It is found and strip-mined on the Indonesian island of Kalimantan.
The Utah reserve contains a kind of low-sulfur, low-ash and therefore low-polluting coal that can be found in only a couple of places in the world. It burns so cleanly that it meets the requirements of the Clean Air Act without additional technology.
“The mother of all land grabs,” Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said at the time. He has called what was designated as the Grande Staircase of the Escalante National Monument the “Saudi Arabia of coal.”
When Clinton signed the proclamation, he promised to exchange other federal lands for the land that was taken. But a fair exchange was impossible, Hatch said, since no other land in Utah had a trillion dollars worth of clean coal.
Rep. James Hansen, R-Utah, pointed out that a large portion of the coal-rich Kaiparowits Plateau within the monument belonged to the children of Utah. When Utah became a state in 1896, about 220,000 acres were set aside for development, and a trust fund was created to collect and hold all the revenues directly for the benefit of schools.
Margaret Bird, trust officer for the fund, said that because the land will not be developed, the schools stand to lose as much as $1 billion over the next 50 years. Phyllis Sorensen, head of the Utah chapter of the National Education Association, called Clinton’s action a “felonious assault” and “stealing from the schoolchildren.”
Stealing from children to reward Indonesian billionaires.
Maybe the sheeple don’t know about these scandals....pass this info on to everyone.
My scenario can't happen overnight, but the technologies I mentioned are real and are here. It takes political will and leadership to get us their. We did not see that from Bill and Hilda and we will not again.
Volley ping!
????What’s your scenario? Color me stupid.
who owned and controlled the second-largest deposit in the world of this clean coal?
The Indonesian Lippo Group of James Riady...
Rep. James Hansen, R-Utah, pointed out that a large portion of the coal-rich Kaiparowits Plateau within the monument belonged to the children of Utah. When Utah became a state in 1896, about 220,000 acres were set aside for development, and a trust fund was created to collect and hold all the revenues directly for the benefit of schools.
Margaret Bird, trust officer for the fund, said that because the land will not be developed, the schools stand to lose as much as $1 billion over the next 50 years.
Phyllis Sorensen, head of the Utah chapter of the National Education Association, called Clinton’s action a “felonious assault” and “stealing from the schoolchildren.”
A trillion dollar Lippo payoff?
In the weeks prior to the past election, revelations surfaced almost daily regarding donations from foreign sources to the Democratic Party and Clinton’s past campaigns. At the center of the controversy was another set of people to whom Clinton owes a few favors: the Lippo Group, a powerful $5 billion Indonesian conglomerate, founded and owned by the Riady family who, it turned out, had raised and funneled millions of dollars into campaign coffers.
Democrats attempted to downplay the allegations of impropriety.
http://laissez-fairerepublic.com/indocoal.htm
More info please.
Stealing from children to reward Indonesian billionaires.
How pathetic.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=285982232964929
the coal at Kaiporowitz Plateau is a kind of coal that is not found “everywhere.”
It is very low sulfur, low ash - hence, low polluting - coal, the kind in high demand for power plants...
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