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Some worried by law that allows drivers to have weapon
The Dallas Morning News ^ | Saturday, January 19, 2008 | STEVE THOMPSON

Posted on 01/24/2008 6:02:27 PM PST by pwatson

The state's new castle law has grabbed the spotlight. But some say a lesser-known gun law, which also took effect in September, could have greater consequences.

The law allows Texans to carry guns in their cars, even without a concealed handgun license. As long you meet the law's other requirements – such as not being a gang member, refraining from criminal acts and keeping the gun out of sight – you can pack heat in your glove box.

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To: Antoninus II

Correction! PT145! Sorry for the typo...


41 posted on 01/24/2008 7:06:45 PM PST by Antoninus II
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To: diverteach

The PT145 is a sweet little package with a double stack, .45ACP mag. Never had a problem feeding my reloads.


42 posted on 01/24/2008 7:09:07 PM PST by Antoninus II
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To: diverteach

Its not a problem in Mississippi either.


43 posted on 01/24/2008 7:17:47 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Antoninus II

same gun I have, nice weapon. When I get of probation for possesion of pot in “06, I will get my 2nd and 4th amendment rights back. I am no violent criminal and I will feel alot better when I am allowed to legally defend myself. I am still looking for that part of the constitution that denies your basic rights for unauthorized possesion of a plant....


44 posted on 01/24/2008 7:36:38 PM PST by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: onja

Unless the Laws in Montana have changed the same goes there.
You can’t conceal a weapon on your person but you can walk down the street with on holstered and strapped to your leg.


45 posted on 01/24/2008 7:42:03 PM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: pwatson

This has been the law here for a long time, and last year’s action merely reaffirmed it, to straighten out a handful of jerkwad prosecutors like those in Austin and I believe Houston.

Oh, and those most worried about this law?
Would we call those “Criminals?”


46 posted on 01/24/2008 7:56:55 PM PST by Redbob (WWJBD: "What would Jack Bauer do?")
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To: kellyrae
and he had to plead guilty to disorderly conduct,

Why?

47 posted on 01/24/2008 7:59:10 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"It's been legal in Texas since the 19th century to have a gun in your vehicle (or on your horse or buggy) if you are travelling across county lines."

Nope, it never said anything about "County lines," merely that you had to be "traveling."

This new law merely clearly defines what "traveling" is.
To wit: If you're in your car going somewhere, you're now officially "traveling."

Simple, ain't it?

Hard to believe Austin got one right.

48 posted on 01/24/2008 8:00:18 PM PST by Redbob (WWJBD: "What would Jack Bauer do?")
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To: kellyrae

Then your lawyer wasn’t worth a damn.


49 posted on 01/24/2008 8:02:22 PM PST by Redbob (WWJBD: "What would Jack Bauer do?")
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To: pwatson

In the state of New Jersey, I am only allowed to have a gun in my car if it is unloaded and in a locked container. Concealed weapons permit? HA HA HA!


50 posted on 01/24/2008 8:03:31 PM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: Paleo Conservative

with 254 counties, its pretty easy to do. I pass through 3 to get to work and 4 more to get to my territory.


51 posted on 01/24/2008 8:04:30 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (To Err Is Human. To Arr is Pirate. To Unnngh! is Freeper.)
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To: When do we get liberated?
"I am still looking for that part of the constitution that denies your basic rights for unauthorized possesion of a plant...."

Any copy of the Constitution would show you that:
it's the part where it says any powers not reserved to the federal gummint are left to the states.

And it's your state law that prohibits you from exercising what the law-abiding among us refer to as "rights."

52 posted on 01/24/2008 8:05:54 PM PST by Redbob (WWJBD: "What would Jack Bauer do?")
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To: pwatson

[cue The Offspring— “Bad Habit”]


53 posted on 01/24/2008 8:06:22 PM PST by RichInOC ("Drivers are rude! Such attitudes! When I show my piece, complaints cease...")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

“And everyone knows you’re not permitted to
enter a Government building with a weapon.”

If I remember correctly, that is not true in Alaska.

Would anyone know for sure?


54 posted on 01/24/2008 8:10:07 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru
Did you understand the joke?
Truth is not allowed in a government building! LOL
55 posted on 01/24/2008 8:15:33 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: pwatson

“In a memo, Mr. Miller advised officers to leave it to his office “to sort out the legal niceties.”

Sounds like a lawyer - anything to either increase billable hours or boost convictions if the lawyer is a prosecutor, which Miller is.

May G*d rot all lawyers! Well, most all, anyway.

Unfortunately, it is true that 99.5% of lawyers are busy making a bad name for the rest of the legal profession.

:-(


56 posted on 01/24/2008 8:15:36 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Your post reminded me that I have had only four hours in the last 48 hours, which is my only excuse for missing your point.

Truth will not only no longer set you free, it can result in lots of jail time. Some fix America seems to have allowed its Liberals to get us into.


57 posted on 01/24/2008 8:20:42 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Rocketwolf68
Go ahead and get your permit anyway so you can pick up good deals at gun shows...

No problem. No more stupid 3-day cooling off period. I bought the S&W Sigma in 40 caliber, with 2 14-shot magazines (yes, they're not "clips"!), including mail-in rebate for $50 and 2 more mags, all for 299.99 at Cabella's a couple of weeks ago. I filled out the simple paperwork, went upstairs and ate a burger, came back down and my sale was ready to take home.

Texas sure is a great country!

58 posted on 01/24/2008 8:28:54 PM PST by Real Cynic No More (The only thing standing between us and complete victory over the evildoers is POLITICS!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The lawyer we hired recommended that my husband plead guilty to disorderly conduct rather than risk going to trial. The CHL law was only a few weeks old and she said that the right to carry a gun while traveling had changed with the new law.

Spending the night in the Williamson County drunk tank scared my husband pretty bad. We were young and had absolutely no experience the "the justice system", so dealing with bail, court, and all that was pretty scary to us.

A weapons charge is pretty serious and if he had been found guilty (which he would have since the gun WAS in his truck), we thought that would have made him ineligible for a CHL for the rest of his life.

The whole process was expensive, we were newly married and in the process of moving, and we were trying not to have to spend all of our house down payment on a lawyer, so we did what she told us to do.

I'm glad the state has clarified the law, finally, but we'll never get our $4000 back. It still pisses me off a little.

59 posted on 01/24/2008 9:10:02 PM PST by kellyrae
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To: Redbob
Then your lawyer wasn’t worth a damn.

Maybe, maybe not. We told her we wanted:

(1) a guarantee there would be no jail time (the penalty was up to a year in county jail),

(2) no restrictions on the right to get a CHL in the future, and

(3) to minimize the cost, since we were taking the money for the legal costs out of the down payment for a house.

She accomplished those three things. She said we couldn't sue the State of Texas for the clerical mistake that caused the whole mess because it wasn't "malicious" and the suspended license issue was resolved "promptly".

At the time, we were told the interpretation in Williamson county was to prosecute anyone with a gun in their vehicle that did not have a CHL.

A clarification of the law was definitely needed.

60 posted on 01/24/2008 9:56:30 PM PST by kellyrae
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