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Two Women Die After Receiving Cervical Cancer Vaccine
FOX ^ | 01/2/508 | Unknown

Posted on 01/25/2008 10:12:14 AM PST by Froufrou

The death of two young women who received the cervical cancer vaccination is causing some in the U.K. to question a strategy that calls for hundreds of thousands of schoolgirls to receive the shot next fall, the Daily Mail reports.

The young women who died received the vaccination, marketed under the name Gardasil, in Germany and Austria, respectively. The European Medicines Agency has not released their ages.

The two deaths follow the deaths of three U.S. females, ages 12, 19 and 22, who were reported to have died days after receiving Gardasil, which protects against the human papillomavirus — believed to be the leading cause of cervical cancer — was administered.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration recently reported that 28 women miscarried after receiving the vaccine.

Neither U.S. nor European health officials have directly linked the deaths or miscarriages to Gardasil. The FDA has said there is no reason to reexamine approval of the drug.

A spokesman for Merck, maker of Gardasil, told the Daily Mail there were no plans to change the company's recommendation on use of the vaccine.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: gardasil; health; hpvvaccine; moralabsolutes
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To: wolfcreek

Here is another point for your well written list.

9) Having one of these strains of HPV means a religious dedication to quarterly OB GYN checkups costing a couple hundred a visit, even if a young, childless woman. The operation to remove a possibly cancerous polyp from the cervix due to these strains of HPV is a procedure where a doctor enters vaginally and uses a device to remove and cauterize the affected area of the cervix. The procedure costs in the neighborhood of $4,000, require anestesia, takes a day in the hospital plus recovery time nearing a week, does not gurantee that you won’t be repeating said procedure many times in the future, creates a long period of time where spotting and other menstrual issues do occur.


61 posted on 01/25/2008 11:10:59 AM PST by jrawk
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
re: No one here has yet mentioned that the most common vector of contacting HPV is through sexual activity. Gardasil is intended as an STD vaccine.)))

Frankly, yes. The vaccine also will protect against several forms of genital herpes/warts...like HPV, a virus. . The trouble with getting all righteous is that a virus, once contracted, never goes away-- like syphillus or gonorhea goes away with antibiotics.

I don't know if it ought to be mandatory, but I recommend vaccinating your young daughters. You never know what dirty creeps they'll be encountering later in life.

Males can be vaccinated, too! They are carriers.

62 posted on 01/25/2008 11:16:22 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Froufrou
Their commercial really pissed me off.

"I want to be one less!"

As I understand it the type of cervical cancer that is prevented by Gardasil is passed through sex.

They makers of Gardasil, and the commercial, are unwilling to tell teen girls that if they don't have sex they won't get this type of cancer and they don't need Gardasil. Instead they have pre-teens tugging at our emotions, "they need this drug."

63 posted on 01/25/2008 11:19:10 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: r9etb; wolfcreek
The problem with Gardacil is that HPV is very prevalent in the adult female population, but the incidence of and number of deaths from cervical cancer are very small. This suggests that there are some unknown cofactors that are primarily responsible for cervical cancer. The public health question is: what is the net benefit (if any) from widespread vaccination with Gardacil compared to the current best practice of annual pap smears and, if needed, surgical removal of pre-cancerous or cancerous lesions. Wolfcreek provided some of the data needed to answer this question. Other useful data would include side effects of Gardacil, how long the vaccination’s protection lasts, the cost of a pap smear, etc.
64 posted on 01/25/2008 11:19:21 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: Bear_Slayer; mewzilla

I cringe every single time I see it. And to me it even seems that some of the females shown have these nasty little smirks on their faces.


65 posted on 01/25/2008 11:20:52 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: jrawk

I don’t know of any OB/GYN who recommends quarterly pap smears for anyone except hookers.


66 posted on 01/25/2008 11:21:50 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; Froufrou
O.K., Texas, since Governor Perry signed legislation mandating these vaccines to all school girls, WHAT NOW?

No, he didn't sign legislation, he issued an executive order. That's one reason it was so controversial. The legislature slapped him down on this issue.

67 posted on 01/25/2008 11:25:29 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Froufrou
I understand the potential for adult women to contract this virus through relations with their husband, but it is dishonest to suggest that pre-teens needs this drug.

Abstinence will prevent it.

68 posted on 01/25/2008 11:26:00 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: TXBubba; Virginia Ridgerunner
I thought he reversed the mandatory thing. I could be mistaken though.

No the Texas legislature tore him a new one on this issue.

69 posted on 01/25/2008 11:27:24 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: mewzilla; TXBubba; Virginia Ridgerunner
From your link
Last year, Virginia was the only state out of two dozen considering a mandate to go through with it after concerns were raised over the vaccine's safety and protests from conservatives and parents who said requiring it promotes promiscuity.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry ordered the shots for girls there, but lawmakers overrode him. More than a dozen states opted instead for laws that either provided more funding for the vaccination or required schools to hand out educational materials about it.


70 posted on 01/25/2008 11:30:49 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: riverdawg

Those are good questions — things that can be followed-up on. Unlike pseudo-statistical stories like this one.


71 posted on 01/25/2008 11:43:55 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Froufrou

“I wanna be one less”


72 posted on 01/25/2008 12:02:33 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: Froufrou

“I wanna be one less”


73 posted on 01/25/2008 12:03:00 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: riverdawg; r9etb

There is more info on this blog.

http://evilslutopia.blogspot.com/2007/01/gardasil.html


74 posted on 01/25/2008 12:22:43 PM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: donna

“They are really going after young girls!”

I can’t believe they are giving this to 9 year old girls like the advertisement advises!!!


75 posted on 01/25/2008 12:55:08 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: ECM
Well if they weren’t, um, ‘eating’ pickles they wouldn’t need the vaccine in the first place. Damn those pickles.

Unless they remain a virgin and the man they marry bring it into the relationship. Or if he cheated.

Thankfully, those things never happen, so the vaccine is useless. Right?

76 posted on 01/25/2008 1:11:10 PM PST by mountainbunny
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To: Paleo Conservative

Got it! Thanks! I’ve already gone back and read the original story about Perry.


77 posted on 01/25/2008 1:44:21 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: riverdawg

Granted OB/GYN’s are far from consistent. So for fun I have to speculate that either you know a lot of OB/GYN’s or a lot of hookers. Or possibly just good communication with one of each. Actually I guess one OB/GYN who was also a hooker could speculate on this.

But if you knew someone who had to have part of their cervix removed because it might be cancerous, well you would know one more person who maybe could weigh the economic impacts of quarterly visits as well.

I guess my point is, and it should be obvious, and you probably got it, is if you happen to become convinced the conspiracy about making money is predicated on the outcome that the vaccine will actually work, and a tin foil hat blocking the FR cynic rays allows you to believe it is effective. Don’t avoid it on a financial argument alone. The cost of treatment, even if only in the prevention of HPV related cervical cancer can be significantly more than $320.

Personally, I think this debate quickly gets childishly focused on virginity and monogamy when actually it won’t be too long before someone pulls their head out and realizes the infection rates don’t match the pathology of something that is only transmitted sexually. A lot of folks will then have to re-evaluate their position on the cost and risk proposal of this vaccine if they have to get rid of the “if my little angel only stays a virgin she won’t get sick.” argument.

— lates


78 posted on 01/25/2008 3:45:50 PM PST by jrawk
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To: gracesdad

The drug is being marketed heavily as a way to protect young girls. There are many parents who will buy into it because they want to protect their little girls from harm. They’re not being told how girls get the HPV virus, only that vaccinating their girls will keep them from getting cervical cancer. If they don’t have a talk with their girls about early and indiscriminate sexual activity, no vaccine in the world is going to help, because they’re exposing themselves to much worse than HPV. But Merck will still haul in the money earned on capitalizing on the fears of parents and girls.


79 posted on 01/25/2008 3:55:18 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: mewzilla
I have one word: Vioxx.

I'm not sure I get your point. Vioxx should never have been pulled from the market; I read the studies and there is a tiny, tiny risk present. To deprive patients who need that therapy from choosing whether or not they're willing to put themselves at (tiny) risk is insane.

80 posted on 01/25/2008 3:59:16 PM PST by NittanyLion
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