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Is it time for Rudy Giuliani to leave the stage?
The Telegraph ^ | 1/26/08 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 01/25/2008 9:43:49 PM PST by bruinbirdman

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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Romney will have to answer about the disaster in Mass that is brewing right now with their health care mess that he is taking credit for now.

The Dems know this and it is why they, through their press, have masterfully shaped the opinions of millions of stupid self professed republicans.


41 posted on 01/26/2008 4:04:58 AM PST by bluedressman
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To: samtheman
I want a strong, healthy man as president, somebody who has their own money and really doesn’t NEED the job.

I am so sick of these people who have nothing but government as their source of contacts for making money. I want someone who knows how to live and be succsessful in something independent of government.

Say what you want about Thompson, Romney, and even Paul, they can actually DO SOMETHING in private life to support themselves financially without the help of some government excess (that includes lawyering).

And the fact that Duncan Hunter was a soldier who was paid by the government, he was a damn good one who would have been a fine mercenary.

42 posted on 01/26/2008 4:12:18 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: eclecticEel
Rudy says and does nothing unless it serves his ambitions.

Here's the deal on Rudy's so-called "cancer" scare.

FReeper calcowgirl did the research from puclic documents; in Sept 2007, she posted her findings:

Rudy quit the Senate race, announcing he had cancer, but he was up and working almost immediately after quitting the Senate race. To those playin' violins about his debilitating cancer and the chemo treatment, here are excerpts from published news reports that tell the real story:

Rudy had radioactive seed implantation on September 15 and was up on his feet in one day. There was no chemo.

He missed a day or two of work and within a week he had marched in a parade, presided over a town hall-style meeting, gone on the stump for Lazio, and conducted daily press conferences, including one pushing a $1 Billion taxpayer-subsidized stadium in Manhattan's West Side after holding meetings with both the Yankees and Jets owners that week.

In May 2000 he dropped out a mere 11 days before the State Convention where he was to be nominated leaving the GOP high and dry (with no other choice but to recruit Lazio).

His doctors said they thought campaigning was perfectly within his physical capabilities; if he started treatment right way, he would have recovered and been "full speed" by the time the campaign normally kicked in. Instead, he delayed that procedure until September.

Rudy dropped out because a) he figured he was going to get his arse whooped, and, b) he had organized several global businesses and a global law firm that were earning him a million dollars per month.

43 posted on 01/26/2008 4:18:36 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: bluedressman
I want a real man as president, someone who can actually make a living on their own and not someone who NEEDED some sort of job connected to government in order to be successful in private life...
44 posted on 01/26/2008 4:19:24 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

That’s right. That’s what citizen government is all about. And being a rich citizen doesn’t make you any less a citizen.


45 posted on 01/26/2008 4:22:55 AM PST by samtheman
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To: TommyDale; stephenjohnbanker
Giuliani's bizarre strategy of skipping the early states means that if he loses Florida on Tuesday his presidential ambitions will be over without his having seriously joined the battle.

Another dupe taken in by Giuliani's baffle-gab.

Giuliani just announced his top staffers are working gratis---b/c Giuliani wants voters to think he managed to spend all his campaign money without having actually competed in any of the early primary/caucus states.

Baloney. The truth is that Rudy spent all his money because he HAS competed in all those states, and he lost dismally. The number of times Rooty went to New Hampshire to campaign was second only to Romney.

Rudy just CLAIMS he hasn't been competing because the results show he is a bigtime loser, a political reject, trounced by primary/caucus voters.

Giuliani practically lived in Florida to get his campaign launched---and he can't even get transplanted New Yorkers in Fla to rally behind him. Giuliani's flim-flam game has made him lose whatever credibility he had left (not much).

Although Giuliani talks big, and tries to cast himself as a warrior/hero, he cuts and runs when he feels competitive pressure. He chickened out of the Senate race vs. Hillary. More recently, he cut and run in Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan, and now South Carolina. He's the gutless wonder....a talker, not a doer.

46 posted on 01/26/2008 4:33:43 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz

only your ignorance surpasses your wordiness.

Rudy is the only candidate who actually has accomplished anything....and working a few hours a day is a lot different from having an 18 hour a day campaign.

I like Romney too but he does have that priveledged background that will be easy for Dems to attack and also his failures in Mass healthcare reform are beginning to take shape.


47 posted on 01/26/2008 4:46:14 AM PST by bluedressman
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To: monkapotamus

Heheh-—Johnny likes Rooty getting the hook.


48 posted on 01/26/2008 4:56:51 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: psjones
People who point to the Arafat incident as evidence of his credentials as an "anti-terror" candidate ought to remember that this incident occurred shortly after Giuliani hosted Irish Republican Army spokesman Gerry Adams at an official city event.

If Arafat had been Irish or Italian, Giuliani would have been sitting next to him in Lincoln Center that evening.

49 posted on 01/26/2008 7:06:59 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: bruinbirdman
Rudy came to the wrong dance!!

Rudy for Prez

50 posted on 01/26/2008 7:11:56 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: psjones

Rudy definitely has gonads.

I noticed in the debate the other night that McCain & Romney showed a certain respect for him. I hope that either would consider Rudy for a cabinet position (i.e. HOMELAND SECURITY.)


51 posted on 01/26/2008 7:43:49 AM PST by littlehouse36 (Why be Europe?)
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To: bruinbirdman

Go Rudy, Go....when the NYT ripps you, you know you're what the country needs

Rudy for President

52 posted on 01/26/2008 7:44:32 AM PST by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Jim Robinson

Long past time.


53 posted on 01/26/2008 7:48:39 AM PST by Rush4U
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To: bruinbirdman

Is it time for the media to stop trying to tell the voter what to do? This the USA. Anyone who can and wants to can run for office and they drop out when they choose, not when the media and leftists decide. JMO. And I’m not a Rudy voter.


54 posted on 01/26/2008 7:53:22 AM PST by Hattie
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To: bruinbirdman
Bernie Kerik, a man who rose from being Giuliani's driver to his police chief - and who was recently indicted for a string of felonies including fraud and obstruction of justice - remembers feeling like a "made man" when he joined the mayor's inner circle. A ceremony had been arranged in which he was welcomed with a kiss on the cheek from each fellow consigliere.

It's almost springtime and Rudy and Bernie will be celebrating together. It's all so beautiful.

55 posted on 01/26/2008 9:20:29 AM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: Liz

“Giuliani’s bizarre strategy of skipping the early states means that if he loses Florida on Tuesday his presidential ambitions will be over without his having seriously joined the battle.”

Rudy’s trying to make his early losses out to be some sort of master strategy; he would have won those early states if he could have. His campaign is in serious trouble.


56 posted on 01/26/2008 11:04:08 AM PST by eclecticEel (oh well, Hunter 2012 anyone?)
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To: TCats
I meant to add a question mark to “It is time for Rudy Guiliani to leave the stage”.

Looks like someone did.

57 posted on 01/26/2008 1:49:10 PM PST by Slump Tester (-What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Alberta's Child
Besides, telling Arafat to go to hell in a city where Jews are one of the largest voting blocks (and the key to his second run/win against Dinkins in '93) and Arabs are is not remarkable.

Reminds me of how former Mayor LaGuardia would go to rallies denouncing Hitler, yet then attend Italian-American pro-Mussolini rallies the same day.

58 posted on 01/28/2008 10:20:41 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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