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Clinton must not let her husband be seen as leader
newsday.com ^ | January 27, 2008 | BY GIL TROY

Posted on 01/27/2008 1:41:26 PM PST by DBCJR

"I can't tell who I'm running against sometimes," Obama ... If she loses the nomination, Monday morning quarterbacks will mock Sen. Clinton's strategy ... the Clinton 1990s nostalgia tour ... But if Mrs. Clinton wins, Bill Clinton's heavy-handed involvement in her campaign will cast a shadow over her presidency ... The Clintons seem to forget that Americans already rejected a Clinton co-presidency back when they were campaigning in 1992. ... ... The Clintons first campaigned in 1992 promising "two for the price of one." They quickly dropped the co-presidency talk when surveys showed that voters perceived Mrs. Clinton as power-hungry and arrogant...the costs associated with relying too much on her husband are balanced out by the rock-star excitement he generates, and his considerable political savvy...Clinton distanced herself from her husband, but in adversity the Clintons unite. Obama has been a particularly frustrating adversary for both Clintons. His potential to be the first black president trumps Hillary Clinton's push to be the first woman president while threatening Bill Clinton's special relationship with African-Americans. Obama's generational appeal for a "different kind of politics" repudiates the Clintons as perpetually battling baby boomers, making the fight very personal. Hillary Clinton's presidential race has become a mission to affirm Bill Clinton's legacy, with the former president starring in radio ads celebrating the 1990s as "a time of prosperity." ... If Hillary Clinton wins the nomination, and ultimately the presidency, she will enter the White House far more beholden to her husband than is healthy... If, however, the Clintons forget what happens when a presidential spouse gets assigned a disproportionate policy role, they should remember their health care reform debacle. Back in 1993, first lady Hillary Clinton overstepped, taking on too much power and responsibility as compensation, many believed, for helping quell the 1992 "bimbo eruptions."...

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bill; billary; clinton; hillary; obama
Never before has the ugliness of Clintonianism hit MSM. A new MSM Darling Boy is emerging, and they have lost that "Lovin' Feelin'" I wonder how long it takes for the things we have been objecting about for years to surface? Clintons have been accusing MSM of favoritism (doncha' jus luv it?)and a little more of that might well bring it on.
1 posted on 01/27/2008 1:41:28 PM PST by DBCJR
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To: DBCJR
when surveys showed that voters perceived Mrs. Clinton as power-hungry and arrogant..

An accurate assessment then and now.

2 posted on 01/27/2008 1:43:46 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: DBCJR

Man there are a lot of not very flattering stories coming from the M.S.M. the last few weeks regarding what jerks the Clintons are.
About time the lame stream media (libs) come to their senses.


3 posted on 01/27/2008 1:53:28 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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“About time the lame stream media (libs) come to their senses.”

No, not to their senses. There’s a new ‘girl’ in town. Hillary is scorned again. Watch out!


4 posted on 01/27/2008 1:57:39 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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Nah! We've know all along that it's Hillary that wears the pants/pantsuits in that family.

Crime-Stoppers Note:

If you are ever being stalked by Hillary Clinton in a dark alley, try to find and duck down into an open "manhole" (or one whose cover you can open) and there's no way she can follow you.

She knows she would get stuck like a giant turnip in that hole and it would take at least two cases of walrus grease and the efforts of the Budweiser Clydesdale Horse Team to pull her out.

Hey. it could have been worse....requiring these guys:

Am I the only one here who remembers Ronald Reagan hosting the "Death Valley Days" TV series? As I recall, he took over the job after the retirement of "The Old Ranger".


5 posted on 01/27/2008 2:01:49 PM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: DBCJR
Here is the one headline that should frighten you:

Clinton Presidential Library Expected to Cost $3 Billion

6 posted on 01/27/2008 2:03:52 PM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: capt. norm
"Death Valley Days"

Thank you for the Proustian flashback.

7 posted on 01/27/2008 2:08:35 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: DBCJR

Hey Hillary!. Good luck on getting Bill to STFU.


8 posted on 01/27/2008 2:09:27 PM PST by Seruzawa
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To: capt. norm

About 8 weeks ago I went to Las Vegas to celebrate my sons 21st.
We were there for 4 days and during 3 days we got out of the city and took a look around. Hoover Dam, area 51 and Death Valley.
We drove Death Valleys floor for about 150 miles and came upon the old Borax mining operation and some of the original wagons and equipment from these mule teams.
Way cool.
Place looks like the moon.


9 posted on 01/27/2008 2:12:15 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: DBCJR
McGill University is in Canada (Montreal) but Gil Troy is an American (born in Queens, NY, and educated at Harvard).

He suggests Hillary might send Bill regularly to Africa to fight AIDS. Maybe that should be "to spread AIDS."

10 posted on 01/27/2008 2:13:54 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Too late! She’s proven she can’t stand or do anything on her own more than once.


11 posted on 01/27/2008 2:24:16 PM PST by CTSeditor
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When is someone going to state the obvious? Hillary has a near-Alzheimer's memory problem. How can anyone take her "35 years of experience" seriously when she can't remember anything of significance.

In this, the record is clear, readily available, and scary. Between not remembering (to wit her grand jury testimony and other rather public examples of memory loss), losing things (Rose Law records), not knowing who hired White House staff (Livingstone), not knowing how she acquired things (cattle futures, FBI files, picture of her and Bubba with Tony Rezko), she becomes an ignorant, unstable, forgetful, and dangerous candidate.

If she wins, she'll be the weakest President ever with Bill overshadowing her (and even more out of control "because he can").

And the MSM tiptoes around the 300 pound, cankle-ridden gorilla in the room.

12 posted on 01/27/2008 2:24:32 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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Clinton must not let her husband be seen as leader

I'm sorry, but the title of this is just stupid. Since when was BJ ever seen as a "leader???" All he did was follow the polls and his little head. Even now he's not in charge, the wife is, he's just following orders...

13 posted on 01/27/2008 2:28:12 PM PST by CodeMasterPhilzar
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I learned a new word today, one that should be spoken and printed often:

"BILLERY"

A massive majority of people on the left and right side of the isle do not want BILLERY to become president. People are going to crawl over broken glass on their hands and knees to vote AGAINST BILLERY and this time around, after BILLERY does away with that uppity BLACK man Obama, by destroying him, and winning the nomination by hook or by crook (The latest bit of theft being getting those "poor disenfranchised delegates from FL an MI" seated at the convention and voting for BILLERY). Multitudes of African Americans are going to join us in crawling over broken glass to vote against BILLERY the first so-called black/female president.

14 posted on 01/27/2008 2:53:29 PM PST by Jmouse007
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To: capt. norm

Nope my Great Great Grandfather drove one of those mule teams. He also traveled all over California buying mules for the teams. I have never figured if he ever worked for Borax. I and my sister have hand written letters (they are all in pencile) from his wife to him and addresed to many different towns (gen. delivery). The letters always had a reference to the current price of hay and who was selling it!


15 posted on 01/27/2008 3:00:27 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: DBCJR

The headline is too long and inaccurate. A more accurate headline would have been: “Clinton must not let her husband be seen”.


16 posted on 01/27/2008 3:38:01 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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It’s too late for that. She’s clearly dependent on Bill's fame and his oily charm. Her flat, joyless persona is such that Democrats will vote for her only if they believe Bill will be calling the shots. He’s taken over her campaign and would take over her presidency. As tough as she may be with hapless low ranking staffers, she can’t stand up to Bill: if she could she would have never swallowed the Lewinsky humiliation. It’s so obvious.
17 posted on 01/27/2008 5:04:17 PM PST by Godwin1 (merican restaurant.)
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But, but.....wait a minute? Isn’t she rough and tough? Isn’t she the smartest woman in America? Didn’t the boys gang up on her in debates? Didn’t Wellesley prepare her for the boys club of presidential politics???????

I think it’s so ironic and funny to the feminist crowd that the first serious woman presidential candidate is only there because of her husband. And, it appears that Bill has taken over this campaign and is campaigning for his own legacy as much as for Hillary. And for all we know, this is all part of some half-baked agreement they have that in return for staying with him Bill promised to help her in her own political career, including running for pres. someday.

And if she becomes pres. it will be a co-dependency, i mean co-presidency.


18 posted on 01/27/2008 5:53:31 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

“Clinton must not let her husband be seen”.

She’s afraid of what he is doing when he’s not seen!


19 posted on 01/27/2008 6:45:02 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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Today, while watching the Sunday political talk shows, I listened to the endorsments of Obama by notable Rat figures. Most of them criticized Bill Clinton in some way for the excesses he's shown.

Whether the Witch wins or loses the nomination, I think we've finally seen the beginning of the end of the solidarity the Rats showed to Bubba when he started dealing with the Lewinsky affair ten years ago.

20 posted on 01/27/2008 6:52:09 PM PST by hunter112 (With Fred gone, our best hope is for a compromise candidate from a brokered convention.)
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