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The Death of Conservatism? - 43 Mistakes and the GOP's Dobson's Choice
Sideshow Bob | January 29, 2008 | Sideshow Bob

Posted on 01/29/2008 11:55:19 AM PST by Sideshow Bob

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To: Tex Pete

Sometime after mid-January ‘09, if the Fairness Doctrine is fully implemented and illegal immigrants are also allowed to vote in all future U.S. elections, then how is both the Republican Party and all of U.S. conservatism not completely destroyed forever and also not replaced by long-term socialism throughout the U.S.?


81 posted on 01/29/2008 1:12:37 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: Sideshow Bob
"No, Fred thumbed his nose at Dobson. How did he thumb his nose at other evangelicals?"

His stances on the Federal Marriage Amendment and abortion showed he could care less about some key issues that are important to evangelicals. That's what caused Dobson to go off and threaten to go third party.

Granted Dobson might have reserved his fire for the more social liberals in the crowd. But I'm not sure the result would have been any different. Fred at that point became a dissapointment, and Dobson simply reflected that fact.

82 posted on 01/29/2008 1:14:03 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: ejonesie22

Well, if the business cycle brings some temporary prosperity during Hillary’s term, she may get re-elected, too, in an election against “the next Reagan”. That shoots your theory.


83 posted on 01/29/2008 1:14:19 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: dinoparty; All
You’re right, but you might notice that I never suggested ridding conservatism of its secularists.

Removing evangelicals could quite possibly increase the number of conservatives, the opposite is not true.

84 posted on 01/29/2008 1:14:38 PM PST by britt reed (Any resemblance between what Mike Hucklebee says and the truth is purely coincidental.)
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To: Bear_Slayer

Oh, I’m right there with you Bear. RIGHT with you.

And you’re right.

The unfortunate thing is, we’ve got - what? Five guys left standing? NONE of them are Conservatives. But they all “look better” than Hillary (Even to some extent, Ron Paul - I can’t believe I actually said that about that Kook, but he IS more Conservative than Hillary and he’s NO Liberal, just a Libertarian).


85 posted on 01/29/2008 1:15:24 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: ejonesie22

Only reason Clinton succeeded was the Republican congress stopped the excess. No Democrat has succeeded economically in modern times, with the arguable exception of Kennedy, who cut taxes and Clinton with the Republican Congress. It’s like the old Soviet Union. Eventually their own system destroys itself.


86 posted on 01/29/2008 1:16:00 PM PST by Greg F (Romney appointed homosexual activists as judges in Massachusetts.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

“Actualy, Rush, like me is suggesting that the only thing that will bring Conservatives back together is for someone like Hillary to be in office for very long.”

There is no way that Rush or anyone else can predict what will happen in 4-8 years. As voters, our obligation is to vote for the best candidate out of the options available to us. Hindsight is always 20/20, but foresight is never nearly as clear.


87 posted on 01/29/2008 1:16:17 PM PST by eclecticEel (oh well, Hunter 2012 anyone?)
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To: britt reed

LOL, who will replace them? Those tens of millions of libertarians out there just yearning to find a party home? LOL.


88 posted on 01/29/2008 1:16:55 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: DannyTN

Huckabee is pro union, pro big govt. You heard that in the last debate when he said he’d rather have govt fund a big New Deal project instead of letting people spend their own money the way they want

Huckabee is a social conservative of the kind that will get women to vote in droves for Hillary. McCain/Huck vs the possibility of the first woman president spells total doom for the GOP and the pro-life cause.


89 posted on 01/29/2008 1:17:22 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hillary wants to be just like Gov. Granholm except more evil.)
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To: dinoparty
I would not bet on it. Drive taxes up at this point in time, and the economy is toast.

They, and I mean the democrats in both parties, are chomping at the bit to do that. Them rich folk gotta pay dontcha know, who cares if they are the ones who employ everybody.

90 posted on 01/29/2008 1:20:19 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: ari-freedom

“people spending their own money the way they want”

For the sake of accuracy, that is hardly what the so-called “tax rebate” (which is what Huck was referring to) does. Rather, it redistributes wealth from the upper to the lower classes. If we are going to do that anyway, why not make people work for it?


91 posted on 01/29/2008 1:21:01 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: Rick.Donaldson

if they win, we can’t give them any help like Contract with America or Alan Greenspan. Clinton took all the credit for the economy

let’s see how the democrats try to stick keynesians in the Fed and deal with social security now that baby boomers are about to retire


92 posted on 01/29/2008 1:21:32 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hillary wants to be just like Gov. Granholm except more evil.)
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To: ejonesie22

So along with rooting for a Hillary presidency (over McCain), you’d root for economic suffering as well, so that she wouldn’t get re-elected?


93 posted on 01/29/2008 1:22:30 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: Greg F
The reason Clinton "succeeded" (I thought we were talking about Carter) is because he did not do or was not allowed to do anything and the strength of what Reagan did for the economy, plus the emergence of the tech sector basically allowed the economy to glide right through his 8 years basically unharmed.

The momentum is dangerously low now. We have been burning fumes for some time, and none of the current crop inspire fiscal Conservatives save maybe Romney, and that is a stretch.

94 posted on 01/29/2008 1:24:45 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: pa_dweller

‘Sokay. Eliminate Mistake #17 (not convicting Bubba after he was impeached) — because it would have given us President Albert Arnold Gore — and you still have 43.


95 posted on 01/29/2008 1:25:54 PM PST by Tenniel2 (If you liked the nomenklatura, you'll love the PIAPSburo.)
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To: dinoparty
I root for nothing.

I’ll pull the lever when needed, but I am sorry to inform you, it don’t look too good for the home team.

Running around acting like the remaining “R” guys are going to do much good is slightly hilarious.

96 posted on 01/29/2008 1:26:50 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: dinoparty

I would not have structured the tax rebate the way it is and certainly no rebate to people who don’t pay taxes. However, money spent in the free market is still better than money spent by government.


97 posted on 01/29/2008 1:27:02 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hillary wants to be just like Gov. Granholm except more evil.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
There is a huge distinction in my mind between a “Bible Thumper” and a true evangelical Christian...

Then you have evidence that Dobson is not a true evangelical Christian?
98 posted on 01/29/2008 1:28:45 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: dinoparty

No one is roots for Hillary over McCain. We’re stating that NOT voting for a LIBERAL isn’t a vote for another liberal. Damn you folks are blind and can’t see either


99 posted on 01/29/2008 1:30:34 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: dinoparty

I suggest looking into a foreign currency savings account if hillary wins


100 posted on 01/29/2008 1:30:47 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hillary wants to be just like Gov. Granholm except more evil.)
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