The Death of Conservatism? - 43 Mistakes and the GOP's Dobson's Choice

Sideshow Bob | January 29, 2008 | Sideshow Bob

[Pietro]

Nice analysis but I think you missed an imposrtant mistake, let’s call it 32B, the GOP allowed the dhimms to gang-up on Sen. Santorum and defeat him in PA. A Crucial Error that.

[ejonesie22]

It depends on your prospective. Do you want the long steam train to “Carterville” or the bullet train. Either way that is the destination.

I would prefer to snap the general publics head back ASAP and move on. I can survive a quick trip, but a slow bleeding death will cost even the well prepared.

[britt reed]

I don’t believe “conservatism” has a chance without the folks who are tired of the “bible thumpers”, except in your head.

[usurper]

An excellent accounting of how we got here. I am depressed and no longer watching any election coverage. I may or may not mark the box next to the ® this year. I hope we can dig out of this hole.

[MeanWestTexan]

I fully agree with you regarding evangelicals and how the MSM completely distorsts their views.

Dobson, however, is an idiot. Or rather, he’s politically stupid and full of self-importance and ego.

Dobson’s “Thompson is not a Christian” leak was designed to destroy the Thompson campaign, and it worked.

[Sideshow Bob]

I count 44 total.

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I stand (sit, actually) corrected. I listed 44, but couldn't count them correctly.

[fatez]

Hey I am one of those social conservatives (been a big focus supporter for years). I think Dobson's reasoning was essentially "do not take us for granted", kinda of the way the Democrats take Jewish and Black votes for granted. I personally cannot stand Huckabee as a candidate. My first choice was Hunter, than Fred, now Romney. I will vote for McCain if he gets the nomination (holding my nose). The single biggest issue for me is the upholding of the constitution (i.e. supreme court justices). McCain Feingold is a travesty that Fred also supported. He was not the golden boy a lot of conservatives made him out to be.

Sideshow, I understand your sentiments, but understand, if the republicans expect the evangelicals to show up and vote and shut up (which I do not think you are saying), then it will be disaster for all conservatives (a lot of social conservatives will stay home). Dobson in my open went to far, (basically saying, if not my way, I with hold my endorsement (the same thing Rush is threatening)); but none of these candidates except Hunter are totally conservative. I will vote for any pubbie at this point because I do not want one more liberal justice. We can survive a McCain or Huckabee presidency, but our republic needs conservative justices to turn the tide. Sorry about the length.

[JerseyHighlander]

ping for later.

[MeanWestTexan]

There is a huge distinction in my mind between a “Bible Thumper” and a true evangelical Christian, although many Bible Thumpers are a sub-set of E.C.s

There is a pharaseeitcal nature to Bible Thumpers.

[bilhosty]

What is a conservative? answer; It is a horse dawn by committee. Conservatives have different strands and we put those strands together to make a rope. Look at Nevada they are so conservative that gambling, prostitution, quickie divorces etc are all legal. Next door is Utah where they are so conservative that none of that would be allowed at all.Every once and a while it is time to reinvent yourself (that is politics). The mix of different kinds of Conservatives just isn’t working. We will have to rebuild. We need someone who is very creative and talented and we don’t seem to have that now. I think the Dem’s are in the same place too.

[mrsmel]

The MSM is a living, breathing force that is pulling/skewing everything to the left.

I agree. Ever since conservative talk radio and internet blew up, they have felt no need to pretend to be objective. The Right finally having a voice, made them feel they need have no compunction in showing their bias. And for as much as talk radio and blogs have done for the Right, they are still nowhere as influential with the majority of Americans as mainstream media.

[fatez]

open = opinion (sorry)

[britt reed]

as a matter of fact, if you are able to see beyond your box, neither all evangelicals are conservatives nor all conservatives, evangelical.

[dinoparty]

You’re right, but you might notice that I never suggested ridding conservatism of its secularists.

[Greg F]

Reagan would have been the nominee with or without Carter. He almost unseated a sitting President, Ford, in the primaries.

[Brilliant]

The truth, though, is that we had no choice even then. It was Bush or McCain. When are they going to give us a real choice?

I’m hoping Romney will win it, surprise everyone, and save us from the RINOs.

[dinoparty]

Agreed. Your point is...?

[ari-freedom]

it took a Hugo Chavez to bring Venezuela a Reagan...well... they still have Chavez.

[ejonesie22]

Nominee, yes, President, no.

If Carter, or any other Dem, had done even remotely well in office at that time, they would have won reelection.

Watergate still burned in many brains as being a “Republican” issue. Carter screwing up so bad made a big difference in the final outcome.

[ejonesie22]

One day...