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The Large US Companies That May Disappear In 2008
Wall Street 24/7 ^ | 1-24-08 | Douglas A. McIntyre

Posted on 01/30/2008 5:09:23 PM PST by Snickering Hound

Firestone. American Motors. Texaco. Pan Am. Worldcom. At one point or another these large American companies were at the top of their industries. Pan Am was the leading global airline for decades. All are gone. Some were sold off. Others went bankrupt. Who could have predicted it?

There are several iconic US companies that may well not exist at the end of 2008. Some may not even make it halfway through the year. Not all will go out of business. Some may simply be auctioned off in pieces. Others may be bought. These companies will not exist in their current forms as they are known to their shareholders and consumers now.

When a company ceases to exist as an independent entity, it is not necessarily bad for shareholders. Some may be worth more in parts. Often a bust-up or merger is what brings owners the most money.

Here are the big ones that probably won't make it.

Motorola (MOT) was the No.2 handset maker in the world a little more than two years ago. Its Razr took the wireless industry by storm. It did not follow that product up with another winner and its larger rival, Nokia (NOK) began to take up market share. Smaller competitors Samsung and Sony Ericsson came out with popular phones and Motorola was under siege. Carl Icahn took a stake and tried to get the company to improve its pay-out or sell-off some of its divisions. The board sent him away. Since then things have gotten worse. Motorola's share price was over $25 in late 2006. It is now below $12. The company's handset business may well be bought by Samsung and its enterprise telecom and home set-top business to companies could be acquired by Cisco (CSCO) and Nortel (NT). A tech-oriented private equity firm might also buy the set-top box unit. As an independent company, MOT has no future.

Sears Holdings (SHLD) is billionaire Eddie Lampert's experiment at merging big retailers Sears and K-Mart. Unfortunately both were in bad shape at the outset. Putting them together did not help either business. The company has a 52-week high of $195 and now trades at $103. Sears has now reported a string of bad earnings. Last week reports began to appear that Lampert may spin-off the company's real estate and break the firm into several operating units, each of which would have more operating autonomy. The CEO has been pushed out in favor of a "temp". That sounds like the prelude to an auction.

Citigroup (C) is almost certainly not out of the woods. A recent report in the Financial Times said that US financial company write-offs for the entire sector could total $300 billion this year. Fortune magazine has written that Citi has another $37 billion in CDOs on its balance sheet. It also has LBO loans which it cannot syndicate because of poor credit markets. Shares of JP Morgan (JPM) and Bank of America (BAC) have recovered a good deal from their sell-offs. Citi has not. Wall St. is worried that the level of risk in owning the shares is just too great. A close look at the bank shows that it has some valuable businesses which operate independent of the troubled part of the company. Citi's wealth management operation grew 27% last quarter. This division includes Smith Barney. The firm's international consumer revenue rose 45%. It is Citi's securities and banking operations which is dragging the company down. With a recession and more financial company write-offs coming, Citi will have to get smaller by selling one or two of its valuable businesses. The global wealth management business had $3.5 billion in revenue in Q4 and $523 million in net income. Citi's market cap is only $140 billion now. Its consumer units could be worth more than that on their own.

Ford (F) is trading about where it did when there were rumors that the company would go bankrupt. This car company has a market cap of $13 billion against annual sales of $173 billion. Ford lost another $2.8 billion in Q4 and is planning to cut another 13,000 jobs. It has a credit unit which made $775 million last year. Ford is already in the process of selling some small units including Jaguar and Rover. Volvo might be next. The company's share of the US market is down to about 15%. Even with cost cuts, its product line works against a recovery. The firm's pick-ups and SUVs have good margins, but high fuel prices have cut into sales. Ford's new fuel-efficient cars compete directly with companies that have much stronger balance sheet like Toyota (TM) and Honda (HMC). Ford is highly unlikely to stage a unit sales recovery in North America this year. If sales fall further, cuts won't make up the difference forever. The Ford family, which has de facto control of the company, will have to look at selling the car operations to a large Asian or European auto company. That would allow for a consolidation of production, product development, R&D, and marketing. Bottom line--billions of dollars in annual savings.

Yahoo! (YHOO) won't make it through the first half as a standalone. There has been speculation that the company might be sold to Microsoft (MSFT) in the press for months. It may take an outside investor coming in and buying a large stake to push the board's hand. Recent analysis from Wall St. shows that about half of the company's $28 billion market cap comes from the value its stake in Yahoo! Japan and China e-commerce company Alibaba. That leaves $14 billion for the core portal and search business which has a revenue run rate of about $6.8 billion a year. This has to be attractive to companies like Microsoft and News Corp (NWS). Weak Q4 2007 earnings and a shaky forecast for 2008 has hurt the shares more. The company has said it will lay-off several hundred people.

AMD (AMD) is the second largest provider of chips and processors for servers and PC's. Its larger rival, Intel (INTC), has over three-quarters of the market. A price war has hurt AMD's gross margins badly. The firm also bought graphic chip company ATI and now has over $5 billion in debt. Shares were over $40 less than two years ago and now trade at a little over $7. For AMD to hope to compete, it needs a larger owner with a wider global chip business and better balance sheet. Intel has close to $13 billion in cash and short-term investments and 20% operating income margins on nearly $40 billion in revenue. Where would AMD fit? Somewhere with chip R&D expertise, a broad line of semiconductors, and a mammoth global customer base. Look for Taiwan Semiconductor (TSM) or Samsung to court AMD's board.

Sprint (S) should never have merged with NexTel, but it is a little too late for that to be fixed now. It traded above $23 about a year ago and recently fell to close to $8. While AT&T (T) and Verizon (VZ) post enviable wireless numbers, Sprint struggles to keep current subscribers. Sprint is cutting bodies but Wall St. has no confidence that fewer people and these modest savings will turn around the company. Its issues of being an independent wireless company with angry customers are simply too great. SK Telecom, a big Korean operator, has already come to Sprint with a proposed investment. The board did not listen. But, the company's shares were not at $10 then. SK may well be back. The other potential buyer often mentioned is Comcast (CMCSA). After years of beating on the big US phone companies, Comcast is now up against their fiber-to-the-home broadband and TV products. And, it is losing customers to them. What Comcast does not have is a wireless service to offer consumers and businesses as part of a "bundle" of services. At $6 or $7 Sprint could look very attractive.

Qwest (Q) is the last of the Baby Bells standing from the break-up of the old AT&T. It is the dominant phone company in 14 states. Its shares have fallen from a 52-week high of $10.45 to just below $6. Qwest has two problems which it cannot solve. The first is that it has no real wireless operations. That is what is driving the market valuation of rivals AT&T (T) and Verizon (VZ). Qwest also does not have the balance sheet to upgrade all of its infrastructure to fiber like Verizon is doing. AT&T has started the fiber build-out process. There are rumors that it will get into the TV business by buying one of the satellite TV companies. Either way, Qwest does not have the balance sheet to run fiber across its service area. Qwest does have a very valuable customer and geographic base. Watch for Verizon to get in touch with Qwest's board. The larger company could use Qwest's customer base to push its wireless services in bundles. It could also build out fiber into Qwest's region if the return-on-investment for the current project is good.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: amd; citigroup; fordmotor; motorola; qwest; sears; sprint; telecom; yahoo
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To: VegasCowboy

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MUCH better than the Sears suits, good prices, and a great vacation in a very cosmopolitan, modern city...:)


61 posted on 01/30/2008 6:29:16 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Complaining about the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I always though insured munis was a sham....if they defaulted there isnt a company on the earth with enough assets to pay the investors so who cares insured or uninsured.......


62 posted on 01/30/2008 6:37:23 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Snickering Hound

This person is either an extreme bear, or, they are thinking of buying stock in these firms and are trying to run down the share price. I’m sorry, but besides Ford, the rest are pretty much guaranteed to either survive as is, or, go into beneficial, non distressed mergers.


63 posted on 01/30/2008 6:47:34 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
all the turmoil we have seen in the markets to date since 1/1/08 has been caused by $133 bil in writedowns.

i think a large %= psycho fear

64 posted on 01/30/2008 6:48:42 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: t1b8zs

Mot has a multi billion dollar wireline and wireless infrastructure biz, they are not going anywhere. Once again, momentum investors fomenting FUD to drive down prices of large cappers.


65 posted on 01/30/2008 6:49:11 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GOP_1900AD

share price are at bottom..he is a opin ed at the site


66 posted on 01/30/2008 6:50:17 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: GOP_1900AD

Iam not arguing that MOT is going any where.I am still buying


67 posted on 01/30/2008 6:51:37 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Snickering Hound
Why aren’t there about six airlines on that list?
68 posted on 01/30/2008 6:52:59 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: Snickering Hound

AT&T is attacking Comcast in Tennessee and might win. It appears they will be able to provide cable TV competition.
(pending legislation changes)


69 posted on 01/30/2008 6:53:43 PM PST by eyedigress ( leave junior alone!)
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To: Squawk 8888

Most RCA stuff is low value junk.


70 posted on 01/30/2008 6:54:29 PM PST by starlifter
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To: Michael.SF.
Every car maker makes lemons, but AMC also made a few great toys...


71 posted on 01/30/2008 6:55:06 PM PST by Outland (Liberalism is a mental disorder. Socialism is a deep psychosis. Communism is brain cancer.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Not depressing. This is exactly what keeps US industry alive, vibrant, profitable. The finest evidence that Schumpeter was exactly right.


72 posted on 01/30/2008 6:56:00 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Snickering Hound

But Ashley is forever.

73 posted on 01/30/2008 6:56:21 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Snickering Hound
Motorola (MOT) was the No.2 handset maker in the world...

Can you spell I-R-I-D-I-U-M ?

74 posted on 01/30/2008 6:56:33 PM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: eyedigress

Happening al over US....U-Verse,internet,video and voip on the same ole crappy pair you now talk on and Alcatel makes the VRAD that supplies it and MOT makes the STB that decipers it


75 posted on 01/30/2008 6:56:54 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Buy a hummer then. AM General is the old studebaker corp.


76 posted on 01/30/2008 6:56:58 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Muleteam1

That car was still made in very small numbers well into the eighties...maybe even made it to the early nineties.


77 posted on 01/30/2008 6:58:07 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Snickering Hound
Motorola (MOT) was the No.2 handset maker in the world a little more than two years ago....As an independent company, MOT has no future.

Horse pucky.

Motorola is WELL diversified. It is hardly likely that poor sales in its cellular division will sink the entire company.

78 posted on 01/30/2008 6:58:41 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Bureaucracy is a parasite that preys on Free Thought and suffocates Free Spirit.)
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To: The Duke

I personally worked on that project and it was riddled with errors. What really killed them was ignoring Nokia during that time. They wanted the money and got it but the code failed miserably and the market was out of reach.


79 posted on 01/30/2008 6:59:21 PM PST by eyedigress ( leave junior alone!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
These companies made bad investment decisions. What is your proposal? Outside of the Government nationalizing them and propping them up to keep people employed this is the way Capitalism works. Things are ever changing and evolving.
80 posted on 01/30/2008 6:59:48 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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