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Boeing Plans Sixth Generation Fighter With Block 3 Super Hornet
Aviation Week Aerospace Daily and Defense Report ^ | Jan 30, 2008 | David A. Fulghum/

Posted on 01/30/2008 11:19:22 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Boeing Plans Sixth Generation Fighter With Block 3 Super Hornet

Jan 30, 2008

David A. Fulghum/Aerospace Daily & Defense Report

Boeing is touting an even newer version of its F/A-18E/F Super Hornet that, paired with an advanced sixth-generation fighter in the works at the company, would give customers what Boeing deems a better package of capabilities than Lockheed Martin's combination of the F-22 Raptor and F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

The idea is that customers could buy 4.5 generation Super Hornets (perhaps 4.75 generation with the planned extra forward stealth and extra range of Block 3 aircraft) and then switch to a new, sixth generation faster than if they bought the fifth generation Joint Strike Fighter. To be available circa 2024, the sixth generation aircraft would feature a combat radius of more than 1,000 miles and stealth against a much wider spectrum of radars.

"The [Navy] C-version of the F-35 doesn't buy you a lot that the Super Hornet doesn't provide," says Bob Gower, Boeing's vice president for F/A-18 and EA-18G programs. "Our strategy is to create a compelling reason for the services to go to the next [sixth] generation platform. How do you bridge F/A-18E/F to get us there? We want to convince customers to stay with [Super Hornet] a few years longer -- by adding advanced capabilities and lowering price -- so that they can get to the sixth generation faster. If you go to JSF first, it's going to be a long time."

Another part of Boeing's argument is that the "Navy is comfortable with the Super Hornet against the highest [enemy] threat through 2024, with the [improved] capabilities we have in the flight plan," Gower says. "The ability to counter the threat gets you to about the point that [Boeing's] sixth generation is available."

It's part of Boeing's counterattack on Lockheed Martin's claim that the decreasing price of the F-22, which is now at $140 million each, will make it so attractive that Australia may reconsider its buy -- already being paid for -- of 24 two-seat F/A-18F Super Hornets. Until Australia's recent change in government, a number of U.S. officials said the government was considering a second lot of 24 Super Hornets and a six-plane squadron of EA-18G Growlers.

Boeing makes the argument that a sliding in-service date for the JSF is worrying both the Australians and the U.S. military.

"The U.S. Air Force and Navy are now talking a lot more about where they need to go with sixth generation to get beyond JSF," Gower says. "It could be unmanned, but I think you will see a combination of missions -- some manned, some unmanned."

For Boeing, the real discriminators are going to be extended range (1,000-1,500 miles), a small radar signature against low-frequency radars, expanded awareness through connections with the network, and the ability to carry a number of bombs internally.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; boeing; navair; stealth; superhornet
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To: Yo-Yo

Ah, gotta love the Talon!


21 posted on 01/31/2008 9:22:31 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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To: Yo-Yo
Sorry to tell you but that is a photo from a Hollywood movie. Don't believe me? Well then here is a photo of Jessica Biel at the controls of the fictional war bird.


22 posted on 01/31/2008 9:47:45 AM PST by Jeff F
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To: Jeff F
Yuck! When posting a pic, after you hit "preview", do a browser 'refresh.' This forces the image to reload from the website you pointed to rather than from your internal cache, and if the website doesn't allow hotlinking then you'll either get the red X or something not so nice.

I once got an image that said "this poster eats sh!t" so I learned my lesson!

BTW, I know it was from the movie "Stealth." The movie borrowed the USS Washington and shot some scenes on their flightdeck.

More here.

23 posted on 01/31/2008 9:52:24 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yo-Yo
Thanks. Thought I had tried that. Anyway, here is my original link:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/a37.asp

24 posted on 01/31/2008 9:58:42 AM PST by Jeff F
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To: Yo-Yo

Phony picture taken from a movie in production


25 posted on 01/31/2008 10:16:02 AM PST by Cyman
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To: Quix

This thread could be interesting if we stayed on subject. That post by YO YO derailed us. I am very curious about the next generation from Boeing, not Hollywould.


26 posted on 01/31/2008 1:41:36 PM PST by Broker (Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
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To: Yo-Yo

That’s a prop from a horrible HORRIBLE movie released a few years ago.


27 posted on 01/31/2008 1:50:41 PM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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