McCain won because of the votes of non-Republicans and Hispanics

View From the Right ^ | January 31, 2008 | Lawrence Auster

[mission9]

I have reported these voting irregularities directly to the appropriate people in the Romney Campaign, and told them unequivocally that they should take legal action, or they do not have the balls to lead the free world. Nice guys finish last.

[chicagolady]

The Illegal aliens should NOT be allowed to vote!!

[zebrahead]

I’m talking about what I think will happen, not what I want to happen. McCain has electability. It’s one of the major factors in his favor. He’s the only Republican who can win this election, in my opinion. I’m trying to call it like I see it. The hard-line conservative stance on immigration is a losing election issue, not just now but in the future as well. That doesn’t mean it isn’t the right course of action or that it can’t or shouldn’t be done. But if you look at demographic trends in the West and Southwest, the GOP absolutely must not let Hispanics go the way of blacks. State after state has doubled or tripled their populations of Hispanics in the past couple of decades. The GOP would be the party of the South and some of the Midwest and nothing else.

[jbp1]

17% of 21% of 2million GOP votes = 70,000. mcain won by more.......

so

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Horse droppings.

[rmlew]

Lawrence Auster responds:

The answer suggested is that independents registered properly as Republicans more than 29 days before the primary solely for the purpose of voting in the Republican primary. The problem with this theory is that that involves a huge number of non-Republicans deciding more than a month in advance of the primary that they wanted to vote in the Republican primary and taking the trouble to go into their polling place and change their registration to Republican. And presumably now they are going to have to take an extra trip back to their poling place to change their registration back to Independent. Why would such a huge humber of people — 17 percent of the voters in the primary — have that kind of motivation?

The poster, "NonValueAdded," suggests that this was a Democratic plot. Since the Democratic voters' votes would mean nothing in the Democratic primary (because the National Democratic Committee had punished Florida for moving its primary by taking away their convention votes), the Democrats decided to use their votes to vote for the most liberal Republican candidate. But the exit poll, as I remember, did not say anything about Democrats voting in the Republican primary. It only mentioned "unaffiliated" people voting in the Republican primary. And in any case, the Democratic cross-over theory would not explain the 17 percent Independent figure. The theory might explain a huge Democratic cross-over to the Republican primary; it would not explain a huge Independent cross-over to the Republican primary.

The whole thing remains a mystery. The media's failure to explain this obvious huge anomaly of Independents voting in the "closed" Republican primary is also a mystery. None of these media people with their six figure salaries notice the most obvious questions crying out to be answered.

[rmlew]

Hispanics do not vote as a group generally. However, for the past decade they have been solidly Democrat except when a MINORITY voted for El Jefe Arbusto.
The damage has been done. It will take generations to Americanize them. The solution of Bush and McCain, amnesty and multiculturalism will only delay this Americanization, while also increasing the numbers. That is suicide. It is a devils bargain to gain a few short-term votes at the cost of millions of Democrat voters.

[Tamar1973]

I think if McCain wins the GOP nod, the democrat nominee will automatically win. A choice between a RINO and a real liberal?! People will chose the real liberal every time.

[Roccus]

“I just hope that other states will prevent libs and so called “independents” to come vote in GOP race.”
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States have no say in who votes in the primaries. The state parties make the rules.

[paltz]

http://www.srqelections.com/downloads/webappform.pdf

According to the FLA application residents have to be registered 29 days in advanced and show photo ID

[paltz]

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[malia]

any illegals included...

[pallis]

In part, the Cuban voters in Florida are an anomaly that makes the ratio of Hispanic Democrat voters to Hispanic Republican voters seem less monolithic than it is nation wide. That will change as Florida’s Mexican and Central American population grows. It is a win,win situation for Democrats. Republicans will have to do more than embrace amnesty and open borders to shift the tide. They will have to champion Hispanics as the favored minority, and redistribute more of Americas wealth towards Hispanic causes and people. The silly dream that some Republicans seem to have is that Democrats will have the black minority and Republicans will have Hispanics. The growing Hispanic population will always favor liberal politicians, and the Republican Party will have to reflect that if it wants to get and hold more then 30 percent of Hispanic voters. That said, maybe McCain is the future of the Republican Party, but it is a sorry future for conservatives.

[Free Vulcan]

And, the Democrat contests were on different days in SC and FL. When they were the same nite in MI Romney won. NH as we know allows everyone to vote any way they want.

Hard not to have a tinfoil hat sometimes.

[norton]

"Heck I have a problem with the whole concept of “minorities”; at root a divisive term that falsely implies an ungoing, societal bias toward white success at their expense."

IIRC, in the late thirties the two main minorities in the USA were British and German....

Sounds like the good old days.

[Paleo Conservative]

What is the applicable law in Florida about party registration? Are voters allowed to change their registraton on election day?

In Texas all primaries are open, but once you vote in a party primary, you can't vote in another party's runoff. Your voter registration card stamped with the name of the party in whose primary you voted. If you vote in a party primary, you can't then sign a petition for an independent to gain ballot access. Also if you are running as a candidate in one party, you aren't allowed to vote in another party's primary. There have actually been Republican candidates who voted in the DemocRAT primary, because there were more races at stake, and the winners of the DemocRAT primary were pretty much guaranteed to win the general election in November.

My parents and lots of other conservative Republicans used to regularly vote in the DemocRAT primary in order to have a say about who gets elected. In 1970, they voted in the DemocRAT primary to vote for Lloyd Bentsen against the incumbent DemocRAT senior Senator Ralph Yarborough. Bentsen did win the 1970 primary, but this backfired since his Republican opponent was George H. W. Bush whom he beat in the general election. Now that Republicans control every statewide office in Texas (thanks to the 1998 Republican sweep when George W. Bush won reelection as Governor with 68% of the vote), there are more people voting in the Republican primary. I personally have never voted in a DemocRAT primary. My theory is that the more that conservatives vote in the Republican primary, the more like the national Democrat party the Texas Democrat primary voters become. They then proceed to vote for candidates who look like national DemocRATS who are fairly easy to beet in the general election.

[EyeGuy]

“IIRC, in the late thirties the two main minorities in the USA were British and German....

Sounds like the good old days.”

Yes, because those minorities sought to assimilate into American culture and did not utilize their minority status as either an instrument of guilt and divisiveness, or as a generations-long excuse for any failure to move ahead.

[jbp1]

i was assuming there were ~2 mil votes cast in gop, so adjust accordingly.....

if 17% were ‘non-gop’ that is 340K

of that, 44% went to mcain, 23% to romney

= ~150K for mcain, ~ 80K for romney

70K more for mcain

and last i saw, mcain was ahead or won by 90K

that’s my bad math, where’s yours?