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Amnesty Will Cost US Taxpayers some $2.6 Trillion (What John McCain Supports)
THE HERITAGE FOUNDATON ^ | June 6, 2007 | ROBERT RECTOR

Posted on 02/01/2008 1:35:06 PM PST by Liz

McCain's love of amnesty will be a key issue. He supported amnesty in 2003 by name, proposed it in 2006 and 2007 without calling it amnesty, and says that anyone who says that he ever supported amnesty is a liar. He has insulted Americans who advocate border security and has cursed at the thought of building a border fence.

The presence of Juan Hernandez in the background of the McCain campaign tells us that John McCain is as weak on border security now as he ever was. Dr. Juan Hernandez, a dual citizen of the US and Mexico, and past member of Vicente Fox’s Mexican government.....Hernandez is as open borders as you can get.

McCain should explain to voters/taxpayers Arizona's federal and state funding for the facilitation of border-crossing via the Arizona-Mexico Commission, and the Border Infrastructure Project implemented in collaboration with federal, state and local government agencies........that's OUR tax dollars. FROM THE ARIZONA-MEXICO COMMISSION WEB SITE http://www.azmc.org/ ---SNIP--

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THIS IS WHAT McCAIN SUPPORTS
Amnesty Will Cost U.S. Taxpayers at Least $2.6 Trillion
Heritage Foundation | June 6, '07 | Robert Rector

EXCERPT McCain is for S.1348, the Senate amnesty bill that was recently defeated. S.1348 would grant amnesty to nearly all illegal immigrants currently in the United States. Overall, the net cost to taxpayers is likely to be at least $2.6 trillion. Illegal immigrants generally have very low education levels. 61 percent of illegal immigrant adults lack a high school diploma. Illegal immigrants have a poverty level

that is roughly twice that of native-born Americans.

The Senate's bill would offer amnesty and a path to citizenship to 12 to 12.5 million illegals currently in the U.S. In addition, its lax evidentiary standards would encourage millions more to apply for amnesty fraudulently. Because there is no numeric limit on the number of amnesties that could be granted under the bill, the actual numbers who would receive amnesty under the bill could be far higher.

Eligibility for government benefits means that the former illegal immigrant or his family members obtains the same benefits as a U.S. citizen would have. Children born within the United States to illegal immigrants, including Z visa holders, are potentially eligible for all welfare benefits from the moment of birth through the reat of their lives. In addition, adult Z visa holders and their foreign-born children will be eligible for medical care under the Medicaid Disproportionate Share Program. Z visa holders will be given lawful Social Security numbers which makes them eligible for two refundable tax credits: The Earned Income Tax Credit and the Additional Child Tax Credit. These credits provides cash welfare assistance...

Irrespective of employment history, amnesty recipients will become eligible for 60 different federal welfare programs five years after receiving legal permanent residence. When the amnesty recipients reach retirement age, total benefits received will OUTSTRIP TAXES PAID BY ROUGHLY SEVEN TO ONE. (Excerpt) Read more at heritage.org


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The presence of Juan Hernandez in the background of the McCain campaign tells us that John McCain is as weak on border security now as he ever was. Dr. Juan Hernandez, a dual citizen of the US and Mexico, and past member of Vicente Fox’s Mexican government.....Hernandez is as open borders as you can get.
1 posted on 02/01/2008 1:35:09 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

Does anyone have statistics of how many Americans are killed each year by illegal aliens?


2 posted on 02/01/2008 1:36:55 PM PST by Samba
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To: Liz

Ultimately this was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me.

I will not vote for McCain...ever.


3 posted on 02/01/2008 1:37:51 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Liz
Why don’t they just give anyone who is Caucasian off pills to put them out of their misery prior to retirement. Oh, that’s what the “gangs are for”.
4 posted on 02/01/2008 1:44:18 PM PST by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: Liz
WHAT JOHN McCAIN SUPPORTS (Amnesty Will Cost US Taxpayers some $2.6 Trillion)

And maybe even their lives as well during a drunk driving spree, a van being chaced carrying illegal aliens, robbers during a crime or drug related incident.

Any number of crimes committed daily, kill more Americans than have died in the Iraq War.

5 posted on 02/01/2008 1:45:22 PM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Samba
---As reported in Grassfire's booklet, "The Truth About The Illegal Invasion," some 325,000 criminal illegal aliens will be incarcerated in state and federal prisons this fiscal year.

----Illegal aliens commit 12 murders every day in the U.S. and kill another 13 daily through drunk driving incidents. That's more than 9,000 people killed every year by illegal aliens.

---On average eight children are sexually abused by illegal aliens every day -- that's over 2,920 annually.

-------And that's just a small portion of the illegal alien crime wave....... 4.1 million crimes by illegal aliens.

---More people are murdered by illegal aliens in one year than have been killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars since their inception.

---A GAO study found that illegal aliens commit, on average, 12.6 criminal offenses. This means incarcerated illegal aliens have committed over 4.1 million crimes -- and that does not include illegal alien criminals who are not incarcerated.

---According to Congressional sources thousands of illegals are coming from terrorist and suspect nations and they are bent on killing Americans.

These "dignified" people violating our borders, "looking for a better life" "doing the jobs Americans won't do" should be thrown out of our country, subito.

6 posted on 02/01/2008 1:46:16 PM PST by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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To: potlatch

7 posted on 02/01/2008 1:49:47 PM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: Liz

8 posted on 02/01/2008 1:49:53 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redheemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Liz; All

Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121
U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121
White House comments: (202) 456-1111
Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep
Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


9 posted on 02/01/2008 1:50:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: Liz

-—More people are murdered by illegal aliens in one year than have been killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars since their inception.

Enough said...


10 posted on 02/01/2008 1:50:22 PM PST by Samba
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To: XeniaSt

“...WE’RE NOT GOING TO ERECT BARRIERS AND FENCES.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5G3kH1PvvU


11 posted on 02/01/2008 1:52:32 PM PST by Deo volente
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To: Liz

I seem to remember that President Bush is for amnesty.


12 posted on 02/01/2008 1:54:00 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: All
McCain is unconcerned about the stability of the US and the safety and security of Americans as latino invaders, MS-13 gangs, and their cadres of co-conspirators are (b) publicly and privately conspire against the US government and (b) commit hate crimes against America and Americans.

Anyone who spews hate and discontent about OUR country, who marches in mobs, holds up hate signs, and publicly proclaims they will violate US law, shall be penalized (and shall be excluded from holding US citizenship).

It's time to penalize anyone on American soil who (a) conspires to undermine the US government, and (b) commits hate crimes against America and Americans.

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ACTION NOW The next president must demand Congress initiate federal legislation that would impose severe penalties for foreigners undermining the US government and committing hate crimes against Americans (crimes like stealing our identities, cloning our cell phones, fraudulently registering/voting, and looting the tax assets of Americans).

(a) Hate Crimes---(b) Undermining the US government

1 - Invaders' using illegal ID or documents

2 - Invaders' Federal income tax evasion

3 - Re-entry into USA after deportation

4 - Obtain/Operate vehicles with illegal ID

5 - ID theft/fraud - Social Security fraud

6 - Knowingly gaining employment fraudulently

7 - Recruiting other illegal aliens workers

8 - Transporting illegal aliens across the border

9 - Harboring &/or housing illegal aliens on American soil

10 - Endangering Americans by undermining US national security

11 - Registering/Voting using fraudulent documentation

12 - Conspiracy to violate federal statutes

13 - Uttering false statements to public officials

14 - Obstructing law enforcement

15 - Sham marriages to avoid deportation

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Emphasize to lawmakers that Americans are demanding:

Federal grounds for expulsion from US soil

Federal grounds for denying citizenship

Provisional federal citizenship laws

Severe penalties for committing Hate Crimes Against Americans

Severe penalties for conspiring against, and undermining, the US government.

Denying federal funds to sanctuary-cities.

Abolishing anchor-babies.

STRICT ENFORCEMENT of all EXISTING laws WRT illegals.

13 posted on 02/01/2008 1:54:42 PM PST by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just say NO to John McCain.


14 posted on 02/01/2008 1:56:32 PM PST by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Cobra64

“I seem to remember that President Bush is for amnesty.”

You’re right. He was, however, in office before we knew that. McCain is still stoppable on all this. And since the Kennedy-McCain legislation was endorsed by Bush, I have lost alot of respect for him. McCain will not back down from it either. Go Romney!


15 posted on 02/01/2008 1:57:46 PM PST by killermedic ("discipline isn’t reserved for times of combat....only tested there.")
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To: Cobra64

He’s not running for president-—McCain is.


16 posted on 02/01/2008 1:58:26 PM PST by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Deo volente
Ann Coulter on Neil Cavuto's show today stated she will support
the most conservative candidate:

Hillary Clinton

This when the choices are a Muslim , a Marxist or a communist traitor


17 posted on 02/01/2008 1:59:12 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redheemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

The blackout periods on free-speech in the CFR bill did it for me.

I took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution.....and I cannot continue to fullfill that oath if I vote for someone that openly infringed on political free speech, thereby violating his own oath of office.

Amnesty for crimmigrants is just another major reason in the pile.


18 posted on 02/01/2008 1:59:12 PM PST by ElectricStrawberry (.)
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To: Liz

McCain is every bit as Marxist as Hillary.


19 posted on 02/01/2008 1:59:42 PM PST by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus)
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To: Liz

A point most seem too want to ignore Liz.

McCain will never get my vote for that reason.

Stay safe !


20 posted on 02/01/2008 2:00:35 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Calpernia

I wonder how ID theft will factor into Super Tuesday voting (snicker).


21 posted on 02/01/2008 2:01:08 PM PST by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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To: XeniaSt

>This when the choices are a Muslim , a Marxist or a communist traitor<

Welcome to Hell.

Would you prefer a propane flame or a wood flame?


22 posted on 02/01/2008 2:01:38 PM PST by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus)
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To: Liz
It isn't just about dollars or even 'border security' which is a dodge that these guys are using.

It's about nation hood. Whether we are one people.

Mr. McCain doesn't believe any such entity exists. As far as he's concerned, Mexicans have nationality, but Americans don't.

And as for Hernandez El ReConquistador, that guy should be stripped of citizenship since he has clearly expatriated himself. Not only does he not belong anywhere near a possible future President of the U.S., he doesn't belong in the U.S.

23 posted on 02/01/2008 2:03:28 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Califreak
I am looking up

Come L-rd Yah'shua !

George and Condi are giving Jerusalem to the Evil One by year end !


24 posted on 02/01/2008 2:04:13 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redheemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Squantos
McCain will never get my vote for that reason.

Nice job--pass the word.

25 posted on 02/01/2008 2:05:13 PM PST by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Liz
I know this is a bit off topic but it looks like the Huckster has some money to spend. Watching FNC all this afternoon and have seen his canpaign ad about 4 times already.

Back on topic.

The only way McCain can get those of us who absolutly will not vote for him because of his amnesty for all bill is for him to answer YES to all 15 questions sent to him by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) and return it signed and to swear to never go against them. And then to submit to a "water boarding" so we may tell if he is telling the truth.

26 posted on 02/01/2008 2:05:32 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: XeniaSt; All

At this point, our prayers will no doubt be more effective than our votes.

Ping to this earlier post:

It’s a Marxist invasion, not legal or illegal immigration.The Hegelian Principle.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1963082/posts


27 posted on 02/01/2008 2:07:12 PM PST by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus)
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To: Regulator
...... as for Hernandez El ReConquistador, that guy should be stripped of citizenship since he has clearly expatriated himself. Not only does he not belong anywhere near a possible future President of the US, he doesn't belong in the US..........

Amen.

28 posted on 02/01/2008 2:07:54 PM PST by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Liz

Oh dear! The sky is falling.


29 posted on 02/01/2008 2:12:22 PM PST by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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To: Liz

Every Mexican legalized will lead to an additional 5 family members to follow over 7 years its been said. That means within 7 years we will have 10mil (extremely understated number) x 5= 35 million new poor, uneducated, resource sucking non assimilatable voting citizens. And if you use the real number probably over 20 mil currently here...thats 1/3 or our country over again sucking on the teat, not answering me in english, not knowing our history, filling our jails and changing our western civilization based culture to that of a third world. We can only carry so many people on our backs.


30 posted on 02/01/2008 2:15:12 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Liz

********** “Remember the Alamo!” ************


31 posted on 02/01/2008 2:21:10 PM PST by Gator113 (McCain will lead our country....into the valley of darkness, with Hillary holding our hand.)
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To: Liz

Liz, thank you for expressing these points so succinctly and eloquently in this thread. Our nation needs more voters with your rationale.


32 posted on 02/01/2008 2:23:19 PM PST by callisto
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To: samadams2000
thats 1/3 or our country over again sucking on the teat, not answering me in english, not knowing our history, filling our jails and changing our western civilization based culture to that of a third world

Amnesty means the Southwest becomes Mexico, and we lose our freedom and nationality.

Something that I'm quite sure our "leaders" understand.

Maybe someday they might own up to the real reasons they are not just tolerating, but encouraging an invasion.

But probably not.

33 posted on 02/01/2008 2:31:23 PM PST by Regulator (After All, Admitting to Treason is Sort of a Bad Idea)
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To: Liz
You don't think he would be an improvement?


34 posted on 02/01/2008 2:55:03 PM PST by FreeInWV
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To: Liz

And any democrat!


35 posted on 02/01/2008 3:26:15 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (I heard it on the grapevine and saw it in the paper, so it must be true.)
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To: Liz
He’s not running for president-—McCain is.

Really? I didn't know that.

36 posted on 02/01/2008 3:56:04 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Liz

I am against any kind of amnesty. I am tired of illegals, AND immigrants coming here and trying to ruin my American English and my country!


37 posted on 02/01/2008 4:08:44 PM PST by CalifChris
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To: Liz

Border security group attacks Romney for flip-flopping on immigration

Tasty quotes, full release after the jump:

In 2006 Governor Romney supported the President’s immigration policy as well as the McCain-Kennedy bill.  He expressed support for an immigration program that places large numbers of illegal residents on the path toward citizenship and said illegal immigrants should have a chance to obtain citizenship.

He even went as far as to say that Republicans that break from the President on this issue are making a "big mistake" according to the Associated Press

[snip]


38 posted on 02/01/2008 4:28:07 PM PST by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: callisto

So much good info on the net——let’s hope voters get informed.


39 posted on 02/01/2008 5:29:01 PM PST by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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To: FreeInWV

LOL-—OMG.


40 posted on 02/01/2008 5:29:52 PM PST by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Liz
There was a time when The Heritage Foundation and Robert Rector's opinion meant something on this forum.

I hope that hasn't changed.

sw

41 posted on 02/01/2008 5:39:17 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife)
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To: Liz

Juan Hernandez is a Mexican supremacist


42 posted on 02/01/2008 5:40:09 PM PST by Rosemont
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To: FreeInWV

[You don’t think he would be an improvement?]

LOL, the look on GW’s face is hilarious.

No, no improvement on immigration and, given Romney’s voiced support of McCain/Kennedy, there’s not much of a choice.

Maybe the best we can hope for is for McCain to get elected and destroy the Republican party as it is currently incarnated.

Then maybe we can get about the business of raising a new party with the objective of establishing a framework of Government built on a foundation of Law and Order as the founders intended - instead of the dialectic circus party we have now.

As others have noted, electing McCain might destroy the party - but electing Obama/Hitlery would destroy the country.


43 posted on 02/01/2008 6:11:31 PM PST by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: Liz

I coallated quite a bit today between posts and emailed a multitude hoping perhaps at least one or more of them will assist in broadcasting as much information as possible before Super Tuesday. Unfortunately, many voters are ready to accept whatever the MSM throws their way, unlike FReepers. But I am thinking positive and hoping God has better plans for our nation than the path we are heading down.


44 posted on 02/01/2008 6:12:41 PM PST by callisto
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To: callisto

Amen and amen.


45 posted on 02/02/2008 9:38:13 AM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: Liz

referanceping


46 posted on 02/02/2008 10:47:10 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: callisto; Liz; All

If McCain wins on Super Tuesday the liberal media will make him the front runner. This is a pivotal point in the race and for the future of the United States. McCain has to be stopped this week or maybe never.

McCain is the biggest threat to the United States, to our way of life, to our prosperity , to our liberty and even to our ability to survive.

McCain has fought for at least a decade to give Amnesty to 30 million illegals and then their families back in the 3rd world. McCain will allow those 30 million illegals to bring to the U.S. 100 million of their 3rd world relatives.So McCain is lying now when he is saying he is not for Amnesty. Huckabee would do the same.

This is the plan of Marxists/liberals like McCain, to import 3rd world socialist, ignorant,illiterate voters so these new voters can vote for Democrats and for socialism. Then we would all be starving in a socialist people’s Republic of the United States.The Soviet Union collapsed because of socialism. We are headed that way if we don’t start reducing the size of government. McCain, Huckabee , Hillary and Democrats are pure evil for wanting to push a failed system like socialism on the American people just so they can gain power.

McCain would cripple U.S industry with global warming regulations and laws.

McCain would give Amnesty to 30 million illegals and their families back in the 3rd world.

McCain would raise taxes ( he voted against the Bush tax cuts).

McCain would use his McCain-FeinGold to crack down on blogs and talk radio. This guy is a Stalinist.

McCain is no conservative but McCain is a liberal/socialist as his record shows not as his lying mouth says. It would be worse if McCain won over Hillary. At least with Hillary as president the Republicans in congress can mount an opposition. And Democrats will get the blame for all the misery they will cause. Republicans will be pressured to support the liberal statist, Stalinist agenda of McCain if he became president.


47 posted on 02/02/2008 1:41:35 PM PST by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: rurgan; Liz
You are correct in your analysis of the danger McCain poses for our country and the short amount of time we have to defeat him. As of today, he has "asked for divine intercession" and openly stated on Fox News this afternoon that the nomination is his (per my ears).

Unfortunately, it almost seems as if you are preaching to choir or to those who refuse to review and recognize McCain's actual record. Liz did an excellent job compiling a succinct list posted throughout this thread, as other FReepers have done recently. I've gone to requesting my own divine intervention as far as Super Tuesday is concerned, and am researching and typing as fast as I can to compose a thread in hopes of reminding as many FReepers as I can exactly why came to this forum and the principles we hold as Conservatives.
48 posted on 02/02/2008 2:40:13 PM PST by callisto
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