Posted on 02/02/2008 9:00:20 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
A New York City lawmaker's plan to regulate antique firearms like other weapons could have severe economic repercussions for museums and historical societies around the state and prevent hundreds of living history events and re-enactments staged every year.
If passed in its current form, the proposal by Democratic Assemblyman Michael Gianaris of Queens would make the state the first in the country to require owners of antique guns, black powder weapons and muzzleloading firearms to go through a background check and purchase a license, said Ralph Walker, a legislative specialist with the National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association.
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—anyone who thinks the anti-gun movement is beaten needs to wake up—
There are just some states not worth fighting in. Let those liberal bastions live in their happy world. Get out now.
The function of government is to govern. No matter how benign, it is always “them and us.”
This is pure, unadulterated political oppression. There is no rational basis for this legislation beyond the likelihood that it would impact a demographic that doesn’t share the political views of the law’s sponsor.
Yeah. Because SO many Bloods are rollin’ around blasting Minie balls in Crips’ asses. Please.
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His father was before him; the two bozos combined make hillary look like barry goldwater. This guy when he was a kid, instead of a gijoe his father gave him a Ted Kennedy doll to play with (Oldsmobile optional, of course).
Move to England, where they embrace and nurture authoritarian jackboots just like you, you dictatorial wharf thug.
More Big Sh*tty liberalism showing its hate of the 2nd Amendment.
Another step toward confiscation.
Government expands to fill every part of the space available and puts extreme pressure on its boundaries.
This is not a theory. It's a physical law.
Just the other day a guy walked into a liquor store near closing time in Chicago and robbed it with a musket. After shooting and missing the clerk, he turned to reloaded. Fortunately, the clerk had turned out the lights, locked up, and was at home by the time the alleged robber cold fire a second shot off. :)
So much for their own argument that the Second Amendment only applies to those weapons in existence at the time of the founding.
Don't worry, Michigan cities are banning airsoft "weapons" because fools paint the yellow/orange muzzles black, making them look fairly real. However, that's a self-correcting problem. You do not brandish a plastic replica, no matter how authentic, without running the risk of being blown away by someone carrying a real weapon, and knowing how to use it.
Gianaris-—What an insane idiot! absolutely no historical perspective - just dumb sheep-like behavior.
What gave you that idea? They stifled themselves in the fall of 2006 to take Congress from the GOP, but that was the exception. Just look at Bloomberg and his campaign against "illegal guns." Look at the banglist. Gun grabbers, mostly utopian donkeys and scheming RINOs, are quite active across the country.
Conservatives are often called reactionaries, but the gun grabbers truly epitomize what it means to be reactionary. They have been going strong - with only a few setbacks along the way since the late 1960s - without any evidence that gun control reduces crime.
Find the latest "if it bleeds, it leads," story. Just wait for the reaction. To get a vote, they must emote. It's sick. It's fear mongering at its most base.
If this crap is going on, they DESERVE it because THEY elected these dimwits to power . Time to take back the country and why not start with Zoo York .
“Don’t worry, Michigan cities are banning airsoft “weapons” because fools paint the yellow/orange muzzles black, making them look fairly real. However, that’s a self-correcting problem. You do not brandish a plastic replica, no matter how authentic, without running the risk of being blown away by someone carrying a real weapon, and knowing how to use it.”
Zoo Jersey is trying to pass legislation to classify “ airsoft “ as a FIREARM which means you have to go through all the bullshit background checks to purchase one .
I’d recommend the book “Enemies Foreign and Domestic” to anyone who has not yet read it.
This is so sad.
I did some re-enacting in New York a while ago. That night, around the campfire in our civil war wool, the topic turned to guns. Me and my buddy from Maine jabbered about going out and shooting all kinds of guns in the woods and fields around where we lived.
The guys from New York grumbled about how hard it is to get guns, theres hardly anywhere to shoot anymore and how there are many types of guns that they can’t even get.
A guy from New Jersey then mumbled about how it was even HARDER to get guns there. He almost drooled when we talked about shooting AR-15 and AK-47 clones.
We told him to come up to Maine to visit sometime, and we’d take him out and have a good time.
The next day the fellow from New jersey is sitting on a camp stool in front of his tent with a little .36 caliber cap-and-ball revolver on a table in front of him.
“Nice gun.” I say.
He looks at me, and then he looks at his little black-power pistol.
“Yeah, but I can’t shoot it” he says.
God, I thought it was about the saddest thing I had ever heard from a grown man.
NYS Assembly 2177 31st St Ste 107 Astoria, NY 11105-2670, District Phone: (718)545-3889 Albany Phone: (518)455-5014
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Gotta stop that ‘80 tech assault weapaon ownership.
Ah, 1780s that is.
I cannot a free man wishing to live in such a place....
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Yeah, let me know when someone robs a convenience store with a sawed-off muzzleloader.
There are just some states not worth fighting in. Let those liberal bastions live in their happy world.
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Sounds good, but in reality when they finish ‘screwing’ up a city/county/state they move on after it is unfixable and we are stuck with the results...
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Let’s make sure that we not only get the flintlocks covered, but there might be some matchlock muzzle loaders from the 15th century floating around. Don’t forget the blunderbusses either. There may be one or two of those out there. We have to make sure that no gang banger gets his hands on a blunderbuss.
I could not live in a state that has this type of idiocy. This congressman says that they need it because some cop got shot with a muzzle loader last year. How many cops got crashed into by a car? I’ll bet at least one. I think we need to have a six month waiting period, finger prints etc... to get a car next...
***crickets***
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And bows and arrows and large kitchen knives.
If you think I'm kidding, look at what is happening on the British Isles.
How to control out of control gun-grabbers ?..by Recall
Here is an article
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-R-0565.htm
October 9, 2007
2007-R-0565
STATE STATUTES ON RECALL AND ETHICS TRAINING
OF LOCAL OFFICIALS
By: Sandra Norman-Eady, Chief Attorney
You asked how many states (1) have recall provisions and (2) require their state ethics commission to train local officials.
SUMMARY
Recall is a procedure that allows citizens to remove elected officials before the end of their terms. Nineteen states currently permit recall of state officials. Although recall procedures vary by state, 18 states with such procedures hold recall elections and require a specified number of voters to sign the election petition before the election can be held. Virginia allows for a recall trial rather than an election. Seven of the 18 states that hold recall elections require specific grounds to recall an official, such as misconduct, incompetence, conviction of a crime, or violation of the oath of office.
Most state ethics commissions have jurisdiction over state officials and employees only. However in some states they also have jurisdiction over local officials and employees. We found four states, Alabama, Oregon, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia, that require or allow their state ethics commission to train local officials or otherwise give local agencies ethics manuals and guides.
RECALL PROVISIONS IN OTHER STATES
According to a 2006 report by the National Conference of State Legislatures, 18 states currently permit recall of state officials: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington, and Wisconsin. In addition, the District of Columbia provides for recalls, and Virginia has a process allowing for a recall trial, rather than a recall election. While most states providing for recall elections allow voters to commence the recall process for a broad range of reasons, Alaska, Georgia, Kansas, Minnesota, Montana, Rhode Island, and Washington require specific grounds to recall an official, as shown in Table 1.
Notice that NY State does not have Recall...Nor does it have Initiative or Referendum...Always thought that was curious for one of the original colonies, and the fact that in over 400 years no one there has been able to add these items to the NY State Constitution..
...written by FR’s own Travis McGee.
Get out.
I did.
The freedom in GA is palatable.
Legal, requiring only a little federal (not state) paperwork:
Funny, NY residents fuss over "home invasions" ... GA residents don't.
Thing is, I swear that states have been down this road before and been trumped by federal legislation.
Can you get a deck of playing cards with gun grabbers on it?
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