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1 posted on 02/02/2008 8:52:31 PM PST by Fargo Rock
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Giving the troops an unfit commander who is an operational security risk is worse than giving them one who will bring them home.

Think about that bootcamp.

I think the president has been way too nice. Mecca would be a glowing hole if I were president.


122 posted on 02/02/2008 10:01:45 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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The Democrats are indeed the party of surrender. But McLame isn’t the cats meow.

I want to know how McLame is going to fight against the terrorists when he wants us to give them a bill of rights.

I want to know how McLame wants to give us more leverage in the Middle East when he wants to keep us from drilling in ANWR.

I want to know how McLame will keep our borders safe from terrorists when he is for Amnesty for the illegals already here.

I want to know how McLame will react when his generals give him information that he doesn’t like or doesn’t agree with...

For all his faults, Bush has been a president who at least worked listened to his generals. He has not been known as a man who refused to listen to critics within. McLame, otoh, by all accounts, is a guy who refuses to budge even when shown to be incorrect. (see: the last debate)

Bush has wanted us to drill in ANWR to help us be less dependent on the sheiks.

Bush worked for amnesty and lost. But to his CREDIT his administration also strengthened enforcement and ended the “catch and release” program we had been following for illegals.

Bush doesn’t want the GITMO terrorists to be given special treatment, like McCain.

As far as the Democrats go, you’re right: they do suck when it comes to the WoT. I guess I’d have to wonder whether in degree how much worse they’d be than McLame. The guy talks like a hawk, but I haven’t seen him take on the Democrats on the issue. Instead, he wants to constantly work “with the other side of the aisle”, as if the Democrats have reasonable ideas.

Well, balderdash.

I don’t trust McCain to be true to his word—he’d move to the left as soon as he was elected.


136 posted on 02/02/2008 10:17:08 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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Maybe, it’s because we think that it doesn’t do much good to secure Iraq and Afghanistan if we surrender at home, as McCain would have us do. Guantanamo, interrogations, wire tapping, military tribunals, all important to homeland security, but McCain doesn’t care.

I would have mentioned the border fence, but McCain is promising to build it, but that’s not up to the president, is it?


142 posted on 02/02/2008 10:22:03 PM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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I’ll vote for our nominee. If it isn’t Mitt (my 3rd choice) I *WILL* mail my pitchfork to the convention and change my party affiliation (loudly) prior to voting...


144 posted on 02/02/2008 10:22:29 PM PST by egginanest ( We don't know what we want, but we are ready to bite somebody to get it. -Will Rogers-)
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**Those Considering Sitting Out or Voting for Hillary**

I think this would be a big mistake.


145 posted on 02/02/2008 10:22:37 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Certain segments of the Republican Party would love to render other segments impotent in deciding the direction the party is heading. These moderate righties see a great opportunity with the way the Dems are situated right now to sway the Republican Party leftwards gathering enough support from independents and moderate Dems to offset the loss of the conservative right while still enlarging the umbrella of the party. They may succeed, but I don’t think they’ll like what they are creating if they do.

Since Reagan, the RP has moved more and more in this leftward direction and at some point we just have to say “no more” if we are to have a party that represents our views at all in the future.

I don’t accept buying a mediocre TV that gets a picture only a fraction of the time. I don’t continue to dine at restaurants that tell me to just accept what I’m served and be happy with it and I’m through supporting candidates simply because they call themselves “Republican”.

Anyway, hope that helps explain at least why I’m not voting McCain (nor Dem). I may find a 3rd party candidate I can cast a vote for, even though I know it will only be a protest vote.


146 posted on 02/02/2008 10:22:41 PM PST by Zack Attack
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150 posted on 02/02/2008 10:26:27 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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There are very good reasons for voters not voting for either of the two nominees! I can’t bring myself to do it and will vote for whichever of the two remains standing, but I strongly feel that any voter has the right to opt out. If it means Hillzilla as prez. and Bill as first laddy, I personally won’t be blaming voters who chose that decision. This has been a terrible presidential election process for conservatives.

I think the statement made by Ann Coulter and the rest are in part made for voters to choose Romney over McCain.


156 posted on 02/02/2008 10:32:21 PM PST by Theresawithanh (I voted for FRED.)
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a vote for McCain is a vote for dissolution of the country via amnesty. a vote for McCain is a vote for anarchy - open disregard for the rule of law.


157 posted on 02/02/2008 10:32:41 PM PST by Swordfished
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Something has been bothering me all week and I'm hoping someone here can make me understand. Since 2001, we've been calling the Democrats a party of surrender, anti-war, anti-troops, etc. McCain has his faults. There's no question about it. But why are people like Ann Coulter, Tammy Bruce, Michelle Malkin and many here ready to hand over control of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the future of the War on Terror, and the care of our troops to Hillary Clinton? That's what will happen if people decide to either stay home or vote for Hillary in some kind of misguided moral protest. Don't our troops deserve better than that? It's throwing them to the wolves.
Our troops deserve better than a lying, treacherous, and duplicitious politician like John McCain. he just doesn't have any credibility, after the years we have endured of his leftist judgment on about 90% of the issues. Those who vote to give McCain the nomination, have to take responsibility for that decision, and have to understand the role that THEY will be playing in giving the White House to Hillary.
160 posted on 02/02/2008 10:36:30 PM PST by seanrobins (Hillary research at: www.hillaryfactfile.com)
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Ask yourselves the question: who is it voting for the madman in the primaries? If it’s republicans then they aren’t. Most of the primaries up to now have been poll driven and open to the fraud of dems registering and voting for McFraud. IT’S OUR PRIMARY PROCESS THAT IS BROKEN!! It allows a pack of idiots to start running way too early, win over the simple-minded through the polls that are pretty much rigged by the media and the dems to push the republican they want to run against. A vote for ANY democrat regardless of how rino the gop candidate is will be a vote against the survival of our constitution and republic.


175 posted on 02/02/2008 10:53:19 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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Since 2001, we've been calling the Democrats a party of surrender, anti-war, anti-troops, etc.

Longer than that. Adn tehy are. Adn McCain is no different. He may as well be a Dimmycrap, if he were the honest man he claims to be. Tehr's not a dime's worth of difference.

177 posted on 02/02/2008 10:53:21 PM PST by TBP
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I can’t believe that so many are taking Ann Coulter’s words seriously. When I heard it, I laughed. It was a tactic people. She was doing an imitation of the true fools who will vote for a HillBillary or an Obama rather than McCain. By putting this thinking in the public arena, she is doing two things: she is showing how loathsome the idea of McCain’s nomination and how ridiculous it would be to trade McCain’s loathsomeness with the horrors of the Left. What she did was set off the fire alarm in the building. Did anyone hear? If McCain does become the nominee, we all are going to learn how to pinch our noses.


186 posted on 02/02/2008 11:07:11 PM PST by jonrick46
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LOL!


187 posted on 02/02/2008 11:08:05 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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If the GOP is ready to nominate a McCain, then the party has left me and my conservative values behind. Time to join or form another party that supports my beliefs.


188 posted on 02/02/2008 11:10:08 PM PST by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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The troops deserve a leader that will listen to other opinions. If you want to know how the McCain administration will treat the military I suggest reading about Hitler and his generals. Like Hitler, McCain thinks he is the all knowing expert on military matters. If a general or admiral challenges him? Goodbye general.

If some general looks like they are getting the media’s glory I predict that McCain will end that career for the same reasons Stalin and Hitler got envious of their star generals.

And have you looked at his national defense voting record back in the 1990’s? He was voting against his party to cut the military. He wanted us to get rid of the B-2 Bomber, C-130 Transport, Seawolf Submarine and a bunch of other stuff. The military is where he is the budget cutter.

Obama, Hillary, etc will not focus as much on the military as McCain and therefore won’t do as much damage. My personal opinion is that McCain hates the military since they didn’t make him an admiral like his father. I think the support the war thing is nothing more that a political calculation that he can win conservative votes by doing so. There has been some key Iraq votes that McCain made a lot of public speeches about at the time but either voted “Present” or didn’t show up to vote. Same with Petraeus, if you listen to McCain he is all about how much he backs General Petraeus. But while researching his votes I noted that McCain didn’t bother to vote to promote the star general.

McCain is not fit to be Commander in Chief in my opinion.


190 posted on 02/02/2008 11:10:42 PM PST by Swiss
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Problem is (IMHO) concerned good honorable conservatives folks like yourself are barking at the followers vs the leaders........a base is a foundation that never moves. Conservatives are here we never left the GOP. The GOP left us on the curb . They want my vote they know what they have to support to get it........ they can start simple with that constitution thingy.

I share yer frustration yet am firmly against McCain. I may and that is a reach be able to stomach the Twitt or Husckster but never McCain and Amnesty , Gun control, Pro Choice and his other BS........He is not presidential.

God help us all if he is the GOP pick as the Clintonistas want to run against him......... wouldn’t surprise me if he loses the GOP nomination she picks him as a VP running mate.......yeah I know a reach......:o)


193 posted on 02/02/2008 11:14:09 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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"But why are people like Ann Coulter, Tammy Bruce, Michelle Malkin and many here ready to hand over control of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the future of the War on Terror, and the care of our troops to Hillary Clinton?"

Research the demographics (largest religious groups, sex, etc.) of those who voted for Clinton during the '90s, and you'll know. The truth can be surprising, but it can often be found just behind the veneer of the lie.

They support Clinton in more ways than one. And they do so, because they want to. People who've been living comfortable lives aren't afraid of Clinton...yet.
202 posted on 02/02/2008 11:25:20 PM PST by familyop
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I’m tired of voting for the lesser of two weevils.

I’m also tired of not dancing with the guy that I brought to the party.

Finally, I am tired of being forced to choose between communism in two years or communism in 2.5 years.

The RNC can take their scare tactics and shove them where the sun don’t shine. If the republican leadership is so stupid that 2006 did not wake them up, then they are too stupid to run this country.


217 posted on 02/03/2008 12:53:30 AM PST by american_ranger (Never ever use DirecTV)
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Well, I can only speak for myself, of course, but voting for someone who’s only marginally better than a Democrat is a bit like trying to bail water out of the Titanic.


221 posted on 02/03/2008 1:07:48 AM PST by william clark (DH4WH08 - Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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