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Gay Marriage Bam Makes Florida Ballot
Newsmax.com ^ | February 2, 2008

Posted on 02/03/2008 4:35:51 AM PST by Man50D

TALLAHASSEE — A citizen initiative to ban gay marriage will be on the November ballot, the only one of more than 50 active petition drives that qualified Friday at the deadline for signature verification.

Hometown Democracy, which would have required voter approval of local growth plan changes, was the only other proposal that appeared to have a chance before the 5 p.m. deadline, but it missed the mark.

Officials, though, ran out of time before they could process all signatures due to a deluge of petitions submitted in the past month and the diversion of county election workers to preparing for and carrying out Tuesday’s presidential primary election.

It couldn’t immediately be determined if there were enough unprocessed signatures to have placed Hometown Democracy on the ballot.

Each proposed state constitutional amendment required 611,009 signatures. That’s 8 percent of Florida voters who cast ballots in the last presidential election. The 8 percent criteria also had to be met in at least 13 of Florida’s 25 congressional districts.

The same-sex marriage ban was certified with 649,346 signatures — 38,337 more than the minimum. Hometown Democracy, which was opposed by developers, businesses and many local officials, failed by 65,182 signatures.

Hometown Democracy’s backers said they will continue their drive and seek certification for the 2010 ballot possibly within the next couple months. Petitions are good for four years.

Secretary of State Kurt Browning rejected a request by the Florida Chapter of the Sierra Club, which supports Hometown Democracy, to delay ballot certification until all signatures submitted before Friday’s deadline are checked and counted if they are valid.

“The Florida Constitution requires ballot placement to occur on Feb. 1, and the Division of Elections has a rule that requires the state to base placement on the total number of signatures received by the state before 5 p.m.,” said Browning spokesman Sterling Ivey.

In a request to Browning and Gov. Charlie Crist, Sierra officials said a delay would be justified because of the primary, which moved up this year from March, as well as problems in the state’s electronic counting system and the verification process in some counties.

Opponents of Hometown Democracy, including developers and other business interests, jumped the gun and declared the proposal, which would require voter approval of changes in local growth plans, was dead, at least for this year.

Sponsors of the single-gender marriage ban announced in December they had obtained enough verified signatures. State officials then lowered the count due to a glitch in the Division of Elections’ electronic reporting system, which had double counted some signatures.

Browning shut down the system and stopped posting daily updates on division’s Web site. The last official posting on Jan. 14 showed the gay marriage amendment was 21,989 signatures short. Hometown Democracy needed 109,479 more signatures.

The next closest proposal as of Jan. 14 had less than half of the necessary signatures.

After finding out it was short, Florida4Marriage.org submitted 92,000 more signatures, said the group’s leader, Orlando lawyer John Stemberger.

Hometown Democracy submitted nearly 800,000 signatures, said the group’s leader, Palm Beach lawyer Lesley Blackner.

Some of Hometown Democracy’s opponents proposed an alternate growth management initiative, but Floridians for Smarter Growth acknowledged before the deadline that it didn’t have enough signatures. Its petitions, though, contributed to the glut that kept Hometown Democracy off the ballot.

Michael Caputo of Floridians for Smarter Growth said its backers, including the Florida Chamber of Commerce, have not yet decided whether to seek certification for the 2010 ballot.

Caputo acknowledged the campaign he’s managing was designed to keep Hometown Democracy off the ballot this year so opponents would have more time to organize for 2010.

Blackner said the law gives county supervisors of election too much discretion and some have given signature verification a low priority. She also blamed the Legislature’s decision to move Florida’s presidential primary from March to January.

Another anti-Hometown Democracy group called Save Our Constitution tried to get voters to revoke their signatures under a recently passed law.

It has submitted more than 10,000 revocations, said co-chairman Barney Bishop, chief executive of Associated Industries of Florida.

Mary Cooney, public service director for elections in Broward County, acknowledged the election has played a role, but she said temporary workers were hired to help with the verification. Staffers were unable, though, to keep up with the number of petitions coming in and some missed the deadline, she said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ban

1 posted on 02/03/2008 4:35:52 AM PST by Man50D
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2 posted on 02/03/2008 4:41:58 AM PST by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Man50D
What exactly does “Hometown Growth” have to do with gay marriage? And the article doesn’t make clear what Hometown Growth is, just that it’s having a tough time making it to the ballot.
3 posted on 02/03/2008 4:43:24 AM PST by PatrickF4 (Never trust anyone over 60.)
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To: Man50D

They get to vote? How quaint. The more progressive folks in Massachusetts would be amused.


4 posted on 02/03/2008 4:50:44 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: PatrickF4

it probably has to do with suburban sprawl.


5 posted on 02/03/2008 4:52:39 AM PST by ari-freedom (Happy Superbowl Day! You get one full day before I start jumping on everyone.)
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To: Man50D

Gay Marriage Bam? Sounds painful!


6 posted on 02/03/2008 5:07:59 AM PST by Andy'smom
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To: Man50D

7 posted on 02/03/2008 5:24:20 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Man50D

Does the “Hometown Democracy” thing mean that every time a parcel is rezoned, the public would have to vote on it? Wouldn’t that stop all future development? It sounds like an enviro-wacko’s dream.


8 posted on 02/03/2008 5:27:04 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Man50D

I believe it’s a “same-sex” marriage ban.


9 posted on 02/03/2008 5:29:11 AM PST by Loud Mime ("Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not")
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To: PatrickF4

For some reason people in FL love to vote yes on Constitiutional amendments. The left in FL, realizing this, and frustrated by a Republican hold on the houses, has learned to phrase their desires in attractive sounding(to uneducated people) amendments and thusly gotten their way because amendments cannot be changed, like a law.

For instance, they got through one a few years ago that the “priority of FL is to provide public education for the children”. That has been used to stymie every effort to destroy the stranglehold public schools have on the kids. It was used to shoot down an effort on vouchers.

You can bet the libs are trying to get this “local approval”(sounds nice, doesn’t it) by making officials put on a ballot if they are going to be allowed to open certain stores and such. Strangle everything with laws.


10 posted on 02/03/2008 5:34:36 AM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Man50D

...this article is very poorly written.....Ernest Hemingway (who started off writing for a newspaper), would be rolling in his grave right about now....Hemingway knew how to write a simple declarative sentence.


11 posted on 02/03/2008 5:42:40 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: Wilhelm Tell
Does the “Hometown Democracy” thing mean that every time a parcel is rezoned, the public would have to vote on it? Wouldn’t that stop all future development? It sounds like an enviro-wacko’s dream.

Yes, that is what it means. It also means that every amendment to a city or county's comprehensive plan would have to be approved by voters. I think there were over 12,000 of those in 2003 (in FL). Imagine going to the polls and finding a ballot full of every one of those changes. Imagine needing a zoning variance for your business and having to campaign to the voters to educate them so they might pass it....it is a crazy amendment that sounds good - democracy! It might very well pass if it gets on the ballot.

12 posted on 02/03/2008 6:03:21 AM PST by aberaussie
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To: PatrickF4

interesting article because the author triest to prevent search engins from finding this article.

“same gender ban”


13 posted on 02/03/2008 6:45:57 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Loud Mime

it is search engine concealment.

the objective is to bury this article so it is covered but it is not even found when you do a search.

The MSM template is to NOT mention marriage amendments at all.


14 posted on 02/03/2008 6:48:54 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: aberaussie

That is frightening. It would seem that “Hometown Democracy” would just about put the brakes on Florida’s economy if you can’t do anything without everyone voting their approval. What will they do next? Have a vote every time someone applies for a business permit? They could call that “Democracy in Business.” How about everyone has to vote to approve it before you can get a pay raise or change jobs “Democratic Employment.” How about people voting on where you will be allowed to live (”Neighborhood Democracy”)? Where does it end? This sounds like the work of enviro-socialists.


15 posted on 02/03/2008 9:20:15 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

At a Republican meeting I attended last week, the speaker said that if “Hometown Democracy” passes, it could cause us to have ballots a hundred pages long. How many people would really take the time to read something like that? Our economy would grind to a halt.


16 posted on 02/03/2008 9:54:45 AM PST by aberaussie
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