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U.S. close to decision on polar bears
Los Angeles Times ^ | February 3, 2008 | Kenneth R. Weiss, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

Posted on 02/03/2008 12:41:10 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

It could be the first species to be listed as threatened with extinction primarily because of global warming.


Associated Press
A polar bear mother and her two cubs are shown in Wapusk National Park
on the shore of Hudson Bay near Churchill, Manitoba, Canada in this
Nov. 6, 2007 file photo.

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The Bush administration is nearing a decision that would officially acknowledge the environmental damage of global warming, and name its first potential victim: the polar bear.

The Interior Department may act as soon as this week on its year-old proposal to make the polar bear the first species to be listed as threatened with extinction because of melting ice due to a warming planet.


Both sides agree that conservationists finally have the poster species they have sought to use the Endangered Species Act as a lever to force federal limits on the greenhouse gases linked to global warming, and possibly to battle smokestack industry projects far from the Arctic.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others," said Kassie Siegel, an attorney with the nonprofit Center for Biological Diversity. "And then there is the polar bear."

Even Frank Luntz, the political consultant who advised President Bush six years ago to focus on discrediting the science of global warming and refer to it as "climate change," has recognized the bear's potency. In an interview on the environmental website Grist.org, he said the public has a "soft side" for the bear.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: artic; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; polarbears
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To: Beowulf; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy

Beam me to Planet Gore !

21 posted on 02/03/2008 1:19:07 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: xcamel

Polar bear nonsense.


22 posted on 02/03/2008 1:25:18 PM PST by Fractal Trader (.)
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To: OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; BlessedBeGod; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


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Grab yer teddies.. um.. er...
23 posted on 02/03/2008 1:29:03 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: andyandval

Am I the only person who doesn’t give a rat’s ass whether the polar bears live or die?


24 posted on 02/03/2008 1:32:43 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why is less ice bad for them?

Do they eat the ice?


25 posted on 02/03/2008 1:37:13 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: andyandval; Fred Nerks

ROFL!.....


26 posted on 02/03/2008 1:40:12 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh brother. I keep hoping that people will wake up to the fact that Global Warming is a political agenda to cajole the sheeple into acepting socialism. Sigh.


27 posted on 02/03/2008 1:42:32 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: BenLurkin
Man,...you are a hard hearted ...cuss....and the Teddy Bears are so cuddly....and every Valentine's day we give the nice little stuffed bears to our kids....

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Hint....Read the Article...

28 posted on 02/03/2008 1:43:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: andyandval

LOL! There is even a polar bear pilot in the chopper!


29 posted on 02/03/2008 1:50:14 PM PST by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’d hate to be the frigid researcher who goes out and counts ‘em, but according to this source, it doesn’t look like a declining population to me:

http://www.animalinfo.org/species/carnivor/ursumari.htm

Genetic analysis of polar bears from all over the Arctic has not shown any significant variations between populations from different areas (Stirling 1998).

Population Estimates:
[Note: Figures given are for wild populations only.]

WORLD
1965: About 10,000 (IUCN 1966)
1967: About 10,000 (Schuhmacher 1967)
1972: Roughly estimated at 20,000 (DeMaster & Stirling 1981)
1983: Perhaps 20,000 (Nowak & Paradiso 1983)
1996: 20,000 - 30,000 (Watson 1996)
1997: 22,000 - 27,000 (Garner 1997)
1998: 22,130 - 27,030 (Truett & Johnson 2002)
2001: At least 22,000 (Schliebe 2001)
2002: 21,500 - 25,000 (Lunn et al. 2002)
2005: 20,000 - 25,000 (Polar Bear Spec. Gr. 2005)
2006: 20,000 - 25,000 (IUCN 2006)


30 posted on 02/03/2008 1:57:17 PM PST by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham; BenLurkin
I got my neighbor's Sunday Paper in front of me,....Article starts on the bottom of the Front Page with a Photo of a Polar Bear that has just missed catching a Beluga Whale,...whale is in the picture.

It then continues to page 14,...and has several more photos and Graphs regarding the decline of the ice pack over the last thirty years,...and shows the various regions of the Arctic with current counts of the estimated Polar Bears and then shows a projection of the population in 2050....

31 posted on 02/03/2008 2:00:25 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Over here! Maybe it's full of liberals and we can have them for dinner...

32 posted on 02/03/2008 2:01:19 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Mark was here

They get hypothermia if they are in the water too long....


33 posted on 02/03/2008 2:01:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Now that is an amazing picture....


34 posted on 02/03/2008 2:03:35 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Great link! Everyone should see this...up yours, algore!


35 posted on 02/03/2008 2:04:47 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Meanwhile, other bears on the street were asked about the alleged plight of the polar bear.

Black bear: "Look, I got feelings for all bears, ya know, but let's get real. Why it only the white bears you worried about? I got people hunting my family every day. You can just buy a bear license. Ain't for no polar bear though, no! I can live anywhere from Canada to Florida. It ain't my fault they think they gotta live on ice. Damn arctic like some kinda gated community. Come back when you start counting black bears, OK?"

Grizzly: "I have friends that are polar bears, and they're OK. A little pale and strange, but OK. Frankly I don't see all the fuss though. You think the world's running outta ice? Just head that direction and let me know what you see for the next few thousand miles. Ain't nobody worried that grizzlies might be in danger. All you send us is these skinny meals with bells and pepper. How about a nice holstein now and then? Taco Bell with no lettuce or tomato? You wanna get all teary-eyed about my homies up north, go ahead. They're laughing all the way to the seal hole."

36 posted on 02/03/2008 2:08:50 PM PST by Sender (Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

I’m not a scientist, correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t all this “endangered species” stuff now completely a moot point?

There are NO LONGER ANY “ENDANGERED” SPECIES if we apply to them the same science were using on humans, to wit:

cloning, test tube babies, freezing embryos, sperm banks, harvesting ovums, fertilizing in vitro, etc.

Just get some polar bear sperm and eggs and a little lab going, and voila, endless polar bears (or any other species).

Why is this sort of experimentation on humans being pushed as cutting edge science for the good of humanity, but yet, they don’t think to apply the same technology where there would be no moral objections and possibly scientific discoveries?


37 posted on 02/03/2008 2:30:43 PM PST by baa39
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just another government scam to screw over the taxpayers and keep the “grants” flowing to the enviroloonies.


38 posted on 02/03/2008 2:36:15 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Sorry Al ! Phil says six more weeks of winter. The rallies are going to have to wait.)
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To: baa39

In Colorado & Wyoming, the Prebles Meadow Jumping Mouse is possibly going off the list due the fact that the DNA is the same as any meadow mouse...same with many other “endangered” species.


39 posted on 02/03/2008 2:49:49 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I sincerely believe that Bush has lost his mind.


40 posted on 02/03/2008 3:55:54 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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