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Europe lacks scope to revive economy
Times of London ^ | 02/04/08 | Rosemary Righter

Posted on 02/03/2008 6:25:21 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

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1 posted on 02/03/2008 6:25:23 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Uncle Ike; RSmithOpt; jiggyboy; Professional; 2banana; Travis McGee

Ping!


2 posted on 02/03/2008 6:25:53 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

When can I expect the Euro to plunge?


3 posted on 02/03/2008 6:37:57 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Europeen Union is a failure. I’ve been yapping to everyone that the NAU will be just as big a failure. It fails because you mix those who care about their country with those who don’t. Those that come here to sponge off us - legal and illegal.


4 posted on 02/03/2008 6:45:13 PM PST by CalifChris
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To: TigerLikesRooster

European economy revived by carbon credits - lol


5 posted on 02/03/2008 7:08:12 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I’m tired of politicians and the media telling us that everything can be fixed with more government intervention. This is like saying that drinking tons of alcohol will cure an alcoholic. The coming economic storm was created from years over government meddling and overspending. It started with the New Deal and continued to grow into the behemoth we have today. I hope we don’t suffer too much but it has to be enough to change our government back into something that resembles the dreams of our Founding Fathers.
6 posted on 02/03/2008 7:19:45 PM PST by peeps36 (OUTLAWED WORDS--INSURGENT,GLOBAL WARMING,UNDOCUMENTED WORKER,PALESTINIAN,TERMINATED PREGNANCY)
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To: peeps36
“This is like saying that drinking tons of alcohol will cure an alcoholic”

It does provide a cure....albeit a fatal cure......

7 posted on 02/03/2008 7:25:38 PM PST by ASOC (The Captain doesn't choose the storm....)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It’s all on track:

Analysis: French study says Europe fading

Published 5/14/2003

WASHINGTON, May 14 (UPI) — Europe is predicted to become a second-ranking economic force over the next 50 years, its share of world output almost halving from its current 22-percent share to 12 percent, a top French think tank reported Wednesday.

Over the same period, the United States is expected almost to retain its 25-percent share, which will by 2050 be matched or even outpaced by China as the world’s dominant economy.

“The enlargement of the European Union will not be sufficient to guarantee parity with the United States,” says the report from the prestigious French Institute of International Relations. “The EU will weigh less heavily on the process of globalization and a slow but inexorable movement onto history’s ‘exit ramp’ can be foreseen.”


8 posted on 02/03/2008 7:40:42 PM PST by tlb
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The annoying display of European pride and snobby attitude mask the creeping pessimism and cynicism about Europe.

It is a kind of psychological defense mechanism.

9 posted on 02/03/2008 7:50:38 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

At the core, any currency’s value is a reflection of the underlying economy. The dollar is hurt by govt overspending, but as a percent of GDP, it is sustainable. We are also (barring a Hillary or McCain victory) mostly a true market economy. In other words, the dollar and the US will survive.

The Euro and Europe on the other hand are a different story. Systemic unemployment that we would consider to be a sign of a recession or even light depression, socialist welfare states, rabidly anti-business socialism, Islamification - the list goes on and on. Europe is failing, and as goes Europe, so will the Euro. Maybe the Euro has an upside in the short term, but it will fail in thing long term.


10 posted on 02/03/2008 7:53:04 PM PST by piytar
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However, I am not sure Europe’s future could be as bad as this report says. The report is based on the premise that the current trend holds. However, would it? In general, probably yes, but the extent of decline may not be this bad.
11 posted on 02/03/2008 7:53:16 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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eastern europe knows tyranny and they will show the rest of europe the way.


12 posted on 02/03/2008 7:57:24 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: peeps36
The coming economic storm was created from years over government meddling and overspending.

Sounds like you've been drinking too much Austrian beer (lately),...e.g. such beer with lables on it as Ludwig Von Mises, Hayek, and Schumpter. That kind of beer has a nasty taste to it in the US.:-)/s

13 posted on 02/03/2008 8:22:08 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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As Chancellor [of the Exchequer], Mr Brown's favourite boast was “no more boom and bust”. It will haunt him from now on.

Where have we heard that before?

The popularity of inflation and credit expansion, the ultimate source of the repeated attempts to render people prosperous by credit expansion, and thus the cause of the cyclical fluctuations of business, manifests itself clearly in the customary terminology. The boom is called good business, prosperity, and upswing. Its unavoidable aftermath, the readjustment of conditions to the real data of the market, is called crisis, slump, bad business, depression. People rebel against the insight that the disturbing element is to be seen in the malinvestment and the overconsumption of the boom period and that such an artificially induced boom is doomed. They are looking for the philosophers' stone to make it last. Ludwig von Mises, Human Action.

Of course Mises is not responsible for the Ludwig von Mises Institute.

14 posted on 02/03/2008 8:38:20 PM PST by Christopher Lincoln
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“The enlargement of the European Union will not be sufficient to guarantee parity with the United States,” says the report from the prestigious French Institute of International Relations. “The EU will weigh less heavily on the process of globalization and a slow but inexorable movement onto history’s ‘exit ramp’ can be foreseen.”

The temptation to gloat is strong, but we better hope this doesn't happen. The European block is still "our" civilization. It's got to be on our side against China and an increasingly hostile Russia. And if it goes Islamic, well that's a catastrophe.

15 posted on 02/03/2008 8:48:55 PM PST by ishmac
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I’ve been wondering how long it would take for Europeans to begin to figure things out.
16 posted on 02/03/2008 9:15:23 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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That kind of beer has a nasty taste to it in the US.:-)/s

That's the taste of reality.

17 posted on 02/03/2008 9:21:32 PM PST by Christopher Lincoln
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That's the taste of reality.

I know. :-)

18 posted on 02/03/2008 9:52:22 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: TigerLikesRooster
OK....let's see...Socialism is the best economic friendly form of government that exists or has ever existed in history, right? There are several examples of this that one can cite, right?

The influx of illegal immigrants into the US and Europe has created millions of new jobs, especially of those in the health care industry, right? The demand for increased free health coverage has caused 70 new hospitals to be built along the border towns of the US, right? Remaining facilities have begun multi-year $billion expansions because of the increased economic activity in those regions, right?

Government always has the best interests of its citizens at heart, right?

Basic human nature (greed, arrogance, lust for power, and deceit) never influences government officials or outside interested parties (corporations) as to always relieve the tax burdens and governmental control upon society, right?

So, the EU and the NAU are without a doubt, the best thing since sliced bread because uneducated, unskilled, un-inoculated immigrants bring happy, happy, joy, joy individuals who want to assimilate into the existing society, right?

Pigs fly because the governments said so.

19 posted on 02/04/2008 12:38:51 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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They have played a dangerous game, keeping their baseline interest rates higher than the US to inflate their currency and keep investment flowing in, but the bill will be coming due as their economy bogs down and the US chugs along during the coming months.


20 posted on 02/04/2008 12:43:16 AM PST by Uriah_lost (This space closed for a respectful mourning period...)
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