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One In Five Brits Think Churchill Never Existed?
Captain's Quarters ^ | Feb. 04, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 02/04/2008 5:51:05 AM PST by jdm

Every once in a while, some pollster comes up with a survey that shows what idiots Westerners can be. They especially like to pick on Americans and their rather insular attitude towards geography, being unable in large numbers to actually find Iraq on a globe or to identify the correct continent for Guyana (South America, in case anyone asks). Jay Leno has a running gag on the Tonight Show where he goes out in the street and asks people simple questions and films them getting the answers spectacularly wrong.

So I have some sympathy with our friends in Britain this morning, who have to be slapping their heads with the results of a poll taken by a television production company that found 23% of their fellow countrymen didn't believe that Winston Churchill actually existed:

Britons are losing their grip on reality, according to a poll out Monday which showed that nearly a quarter think Winston Churchill was a myth while the majority reckon Sherlock Holmes was real.

The survey found that 47 percent thought the 12th century English king Richard the Lionheart was a myth.

And 23 percent thought World War II prime minister Churchill was made up. The same percentage thought Crimean War nurse Florence Nightingale did not actually exist.

Even more laughable, the man who most exemplified peaceful protest in this century also got relegated to mythical status. Mohandas Gandhi appears in the Top Ten of Mythical Creatures in this poll. In contrast, a majority -- 58% -- believed that Sherlock Holmes was in fact a real person, and not a fictional character from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's excellent novels.

One might forgive those who consider Richard Lionheart and the Duke of Wellington mythical. Especially with the former, the myths may have overtaken the actual history, to some extent. The British can afford to have a mythical Wellington now, even if they should be grateful for having an actual Wellington when they needed him most against Napoleon.

But Churchill? Not only was Churchill the truly indispensable man of World War II, he was also captured on miles of film. He served a second term as prime minister just fifty years ago. His descendants still work in politics and speak on ceremonial occasions that celebrate his life. Most critically, Churchill produced some of the most important volumes of history during his long lifetime which grace libraries around the world.

I mean, what more does a man have to do to gain some measure of immortality?

At least 23% of Americans don't believe that FDR or Abraham Lincoln never existed. Or at least I hope they don't. Maybe we shouldn't ask questions for which we'd rather not hear the answers.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: brits; churchill; myth; winstonchurchill; worldhistory; wwii
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1 posted on 02/04/2008 5:51:07 AM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

What is the percentage of ROP citizen in Great Britain now? Maybe they are just taking their cues from the president of Iran and disbelieving anything to do with WWII.


2 posted on 02/04/2008 5:53:52 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: jdm

I bet you 90% of Brits believe Christ never existed. Welcome to post-modern ignorance.


3 posted on 02/04/2008 5:54:51 AM PST by nwrep
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To: jdm

Sounds about like the approximate number of Islamics that have moved into Great Britian. Add that to their liberal education system and there is no surprise here...only sorrow.


4 posted on 02/04/2008 5:56:57 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: nwrep
The Holocaust never happened. 9-11 was staged by the U.S. Government. Fire doesnt melt steel. Communism works. Hugo Chavez was elected democratically. I really have given up on society.
5 posted on 02/04/2008 5:58:16 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: jdm

LOL. Perhaps the 23% of those polled were composed mostly of immigrants.


6 posted on 02/04/2008 5:58:59 AM PST by kabar
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To: jdm

If Al Gore can’t prove that Churchill existed, then what right have you to say otherwise?


7 posted on 02/04/2008 5:59:04 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Jeff Head

Really sad.


8 posted on 02/04/2008 5:59:09 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: jdm

Well, looking at pathetic Britain now, who would think that they had such a great leader only sixty years ago?


9 posted on 02/04/2008 6:00:15 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: jdm

I wouldn’t assume the poll was of Westerners, just because they were British.


10 posted on 02/04/2008 6:01:54 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( There is still time........brother.)
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To: jdm

Ward maybe, but Winston???


11 posted on 02/04/2008 6:03:42 AM PST by NonValueAdded (What Would Hobson Choose?)
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To: jdm
In contrast, a majority -- 58% -- believed that Sherlock Holmes was in fact a real person

He wasn't?

How about Dr. Watson?

lol

12 posted on 02/04/2008 6:06:18 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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I mean, what more does a man have to do to gain some measure of immortality?

Make a bad propaganda movie for nonexistent science, then win a Nobel Prize and Academy Award.
13 posted on 02/04/2008 6:07:43 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: jdm

Gee. I guess since I can remember Churchill being PM, it’ll be ‘off to the camps’ for me.


14 posted on 02/04/2008 6:08:32 AM PST by Roccus (RINOs: n. Conservatives who register as Republicans)
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To: nwrep
I bet you 90% of Brits believe Christ never existed. Welcome to post-modern ignorance.

I'll take that bet, esp. since England's largest religion is now Catholicism, due to large number of Polish immigants. What are we betting?

jas3

p.s. There is more film of Churchill than Christ.
15 posted on 02/04/2008 6:13:04 AM PST by jas3
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If the Duke of Wellington was mythical, who do they think invented Wellington boots? They really exist.

I remember once when Jay Leno asked someone in L.A. what the large body of water nearby was and the guy said "the Atlantic Ocean."

16 posted on 02/04/2008 6:14:50 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Rush said,

For liberals, history starts either the day they were born or the day they woke up.

17 posted on 02/04/2008 6:18:52 AM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: jdm

I recall reading here on FR not long ago (last fall, perhaps) that British history books used in the government school system no longer even mention Churchill. How they can cover WWII without mentioning him is beyond me, but he was apparently eliminated because he is not popular with Muslims and is considered “divisive.” If you will recall, Churchill had some very accurate words about Islam and its effect on the world...


18 posted on 02/04/2008 6:24:03 AM PST by livius
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To: jdm

This poll says something interesting about people beyond “gosh they’re dumb”. If you slowly allow the freedoms that great leaders like Churchill fought for to be taken from you bit by bit, the sacrifices of those leaders and the people that served with them become irrelevant. Churchill was real then...but he isn’t now because the people carrying his legacy are throwing it away.

Examining the state of the GOP leads me to think that Ronald Reagan never existed either...


19 posted on 02/04/2008 6:24:07 AM PST by Skip Ripley
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To: jdm

Wanna bet that half of black Americans cannot say who Lincoln was or what he contributed to their history?


20 posted on 02/04/2008 6:26:13 AM PST by CodeToad
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