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Economist: Expect Fed to lower Dow to 8,000
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 5, 2008 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 02/05/2008 3:34:18 AM PST by Man50D

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To: Man50D

Housing bubble yes. Stock market bubble no. The markets haven’t been this undervalued in 40 years. Corp America’s bal sheets have never been stronger. We’ll see a big run in stocks into 2009-2010. The only thing that would stop it is Pres B. Hussein Obamana or Pres Hitlery and their love for taxes


21 posted on 02/05/2008 4:34:06 AM PST by petercooper (It's called subprime for a reason.)
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To: Man50D

World Nut Daily. Nuff said.


22 posted on 02/05/2008 4:35:11 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: Man50D

Mr. Bolser should demand a refund from “Cracker Jacks”, from whom he obtained his education in Economics.


23 posted on 02/05/2008 4:38:24 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: Fresh Wind

Ummmmmmm.....Bilderburgers!
24 posted on 02/05/2008 4:40:49 AM PST by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: Man50D
"The Fed wants to drive the DJIA toward the 8,000 level, or below, in order to help create a deep recession which will have the effect of slowing consumption across the board, and dampening the otherwise harmful effects of inflation.

That right there shows how idiotic the whole article is...

First - IF the Fed could actually pull this off - how does it help? It puts thousands out of work, it bankrupts millions of people, and destroys a whole bunch of folks retirements... In addition, it is in no-way connected to the real reasons for inflation - which are primarily being caused right now by fuel costs - both from the record highs in crude oil, to the hyper-inflated corn prices due the forced ethanol production, and from the lowered dollar value vs. world currencies - due to the Fed's over printing and low interest rates.

But I do question the lowered interest rates. While most of us benefit from it if we actually use credit, it does encourage spending - of money folks don't have.

If the article were right that the Fed would want to slow consumption - the easiest way would be to RAISE interest rates - make credit HARDER to get - especially for consumers who are so over-spending their current income that they will never get their current debt load paid off...

25 posted on 02/05/2008 5:10:05 AM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: Man50D

World Nut Daily.


26 posted on 02/05/2008 5:25:41 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Man50D

I’m as big a conspiracy nut as anybody when it comes to the Fed making efforts to manipulate the stock market, but this guy has the cart leading the horse.

The Fed knows that the DJII is going down so it will juice the markets as necessary from time to time whenever there is so much as a 3% decline. We saw that two days running two weeks ago. Their intention is not to drive it to 8000, their intention is to try to stop it from going toward 8000 quickly.

The question of whether they already think the DJII’s destiny is 8000 is another matter.


27 posted on 02/05/2008 5:56:40 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Man50D

If Bolser is so sure where the stock market is going he should shut up and trade.


28 posted on 02/05/2008 5:59:00 AM PST by devere
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To: Man50D

Ron Paul’s fault !


29 posted on 02/05/2008 6:01:16 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Always Right
The reason WND will never be considered a legitimate source.

Oh, come on now! There are a lot more reasons why WorldNutDaily will never be considered a legitimate news source! This is only one of them......

30 posted on 02/05/2008 6:06:50 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: Man50D
The Fed is irrelevant now that debt deflation has taken hold.

Asset prices are dropping due to debt destruction, ie decreasing money supply.

31 posted on 02/05/2008 6:07:00 AM PST by Vet_6780 ("I see debt people")
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To: Man50D
The New York Stock Exchange finished the day down 108.03 points, closing at 12,635.16, much as Bolser predicted

LOL!

32 posted on 02/05/2008 6:37:08 AM PST by Fan of Fiat
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To: Man50D
8,000 level

Now that would be a buying opportunity if there ever was one. I would welcome that. Yes my stocks and mutual funds that I currently have now would be worth a lot less, but the monthly buys that I do would purchase more shares and as you know what goes down must go up. I think all FREEPERS definitely should sign up for the “DRIP” program (Dividend reinvestment program). I have been doing this since 1990.

33 posted on 02/05/2008 6:40:39 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Man50D

The Dow returning to 8,000 would put it fairly close to the long-term trendline established after the initial Reagan tax cuts - from 1983 to about 1996, when the tech bubble started (with a big assist from Greenspan) and morphed into the housing bubble. It’s in no way an inconceivable outcome.


34 posted on 02/05/2008 6:45:26 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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Yes my stocks and mutual funds that I currently have now would be worth a lot less,

They maybe worth less but you haven't lost anything until you sell them at a loss.
35 posted on 02/05/2008 7:13:41 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D; Mase; expat_panama; remember; SAJ
"The Fed wants to drive the DJIA toward the 8,000 level, or below, in order to help create a deep recession which will have the effect of slowing consumption across the board, and dampening the otherwise harmful effects of inflation.

Because a deep recession is less harmful than inflation? Idiot!

Meanwhile, while holding the government securities let out by the Fed in the repo agreement, primary dealers are free to utilize the liquidity provided by the repurchase agreement to manipulate the economy in accordance with the Fed's true monetary policy, whether publicly declared or not.

Actually, this type of repo dries up liquidity. Idiot! And exactly how does holding extra Treasuries, for a very short period, allow the primary dealer to "manipulate the economy"?

Primary dealers use the funds provided by the government securities they hold under the repurchase agreements

According to his earlier description, the Fed has the funds, the dealer has the Treasuries. Idiot!

"The primary government security dealer banks are like a private club," Bolser told WND. "You get to stay in the club as long as you take the repurchase agreements and enter the markets to implement Fed monetary policy the way the Fed wants it implemented. Violate the unspoken rules, and you risk being thrown out of the club."

Actually, the rules are very clearly spoken.

"But decreasing the repurchase pool will push the economy down, especially when the primary banks execute monetary policy in accordance with the wishes of the Fed to short the market with future contracts that push the indices down."

That's funny!

Boy is this guy dumb.

36 posted on 02/05/2008 7:19:41 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Boy is this guy dumb.

Earlier today I spotted this thread and considered commenting, but my problem was that the entire piece was so stupid that I couldn't figure out where to begin.

The idea that loonies are publishing drivel is old news.  It's the fact that there are real people on a conservative forum that actually go along with it that never ceases to amaze me.

37 posted on 02/05/2008 8:26:14 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: Man50D

Well, I guess someone has to be right.


38 posted on 02/05/2008 2:50:54 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Agree with your comments. I will say on the offchance the Dow DOES get to 8k again, I will put every dime I can afford into the market at that price (S&P P/E ratio would be under 10 if it dropped the same amount and dividend yield would be over 3.5%).


39 posted on 02/05/2008 5:36:01 PM PST by rb22982
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To: Brilliant
Pleases note where the DOW plunged to in 2002/2003. "Likely" is one of those words. Of course it doesn't seem "likely". But it is very possible and the precedent is very real. It just may be "likely" in light of the severe liquidity crisis during the current banking massacre. I would say, "not likely and not unlikely. Very possible."
40 posted on 02/05/2008 8:33:56 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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