Romney quiet on health care because his plan is a dismal failure

The Salt Lake Tribume ^ | 1-29-08 | Michael Tanner

[Antoninus]

This article is important because this type of stuff will be coming to a country near you if this liberal wolf-in-sheep's clothing gets the nomination.

Why anyone thinks Romney is somehow "better" than McCain is beyond me. They're both awful--but Romney is worse because he's lying about what he really is.

[UCFRoadWarrior]

Its pretty much knowledge now that Romney’s health care plan in MA has been seriously compromised by the liberal governor now running the state.

Which is why electing a liberal like Juan McAztlan means we will get screwier programs than we had under Jorge Boosh

What is Juan McAztlan’s health care plan? Free health care for illegals? Wait we already have that....how about more free health care for illegals?

[Antoninus]

Its pretty much knowledge now that Romney’s health care plan in MA has been seriously compromised by the liberal governor now running the state.

LOL. You guys have let anti-McCainia addle your brains.

Romney is as bad or worse. And he's trying to get elected using conservative support, money, and votes.

No conservative should support this guy for ANY reason.

[NavVet]

And McCain is not lying? Or maybe Juan McCain really is Ronald Reagan reincarnate.

[MBB1984]

You are going to get health care in one form or another. It will in either a Romeny flavor, Hillary flavor or a Obama flavor. McCain will not lead any fight against health care and will wind up with his own “government” plan. If MCain wins you will probably see something similar to the Romney flavor.

[Antoninus]

2. Economy - Romney- hands down.

Michael Medved disassembled someone spouting this mantra yesterday on his show. What, exactly, about Romney's economic plan makes it superior to McCain's?

All we really know about Romney is that he's fond of big government solutions and creating massive new unfunded mandates. Tell me that's not a drain on the economy?

[kingu]

They won’t be illegals getting free health care, they’ll be citizens getting free health care, since he wants to end the illegal designation through the shell game of ‘immigration reform.’

Enough fall guy politics; Mitt started the process, knowing full well that it would be corrupted by the state legislature and by succeeding office holders. For a ‘business’ guy, he’s either an idiot or thinks we are.

I can pretend to hold out hope for some brokered convention where a real conservative is given the nomination, but that’s just not going to happen. Even if it went to an open convention, our RINO leaders will choose whomever got the most popular votes or some other inane manner of pushing forward their big government supporters.

[wastedpotential]

Yeah, Mitt’s plan to pay for abortions (after a $50 co pay) was a real conservative one.

[Antoninus]

You are going to get health care in one form or another. It will in either a Romeny flavor, Hillary flavor or a Obama flavor. McCain will not lead any fight against health care and will wind up with his own “government” plan.

Wow. Are we THAT defeatist on FR now that we're simply going to give up and accept a disastrous plan like RomneyCare?

If MCain wins you will probably see something similar to the Romney flavor.

I dislike McCain a great deal, but I'm not willing to make up falsehoods to attack him with. I don't think president McCain would foist socialized medicine on us. He's always been something of a budget hawk, anyway.

Romney? He's a big-government solution kind of guy.

[CharlesWayneCT]

I was surprised he talked about it so much, so the idea that he doesn’t talk about it is wrong.

Romney’s mistake was to take so much credit for the final product, given how badly the democrats damaged it. Frankly, I don’t think he understood exactly how badly they screwed it up, but he does now.

Fortunately, he’s clearly said that isn’t his plan for President. His plan as President is a good one, which will allow states to experiment and screw themselves over if they like, and the nation will benefit from testing different theories to see what works before we adopt some disastrous Hillary plan.

[Redbob]

I beg to differ:
Romney’s Massachusetts plan is not a “complete disaster” because the damage it has done and is doing is limited to one state, a state whose citizens have shown themselves time after time to be very tolerant of the most colossal government screw ups.

“Disaster” would be to have attempted to implement this plan or one like it on a national scale, as Shrillary wants.

The opportunity here, for Gov. Romney, is to come out and say, “OK, we screwed up! It was a bad idea, here’s why, and we won’t make a mistake like that again!”

But can you see him doing it?

[Antoninus]

Frankly, I don’t think he understood exactly how badly they screwed it up, but he does now.

LOL. he didn't understand? Really? Is that the kind of guy we want to be our president? First, he's got the core values problem, now he "doesn't understand" that Democrats screw things up?

Fact: Romney was instrumental in pushing through a socialized medicine scheme that has been run into the ground less than 2 years after he left office. And somehow, it's not his fault? Please.

I was born at night, but not last night.

[Antoninus]

Romney’s Massachusetts plan is not a “complete disaster” because the damage it has done and is doing is limited to one state, a state whose citizens have shown themselves time after time to be very tolerant of the most colossal government screw ups.

Pardon me, but I believe I've already heard the phrase "federal bailout" associated with RomneyCare.

[Redbob]

"...Romney’s health care plan in MA has been seriously compromised by the liberal governor now running the state."

No, Romney's healthcare plan was "seriously compromised" by the fact it was a stupid idea to begin with.

The sooner Mitt admits that, and says so publicly, the sooner we can move on to more pressing matters - like getting him nominated instead of Juan McInsane!

[MBB1984]

You obviously have not been looking at the polls. This country is growing increasingly socialist friendly and desires some form of government sponsored health care program. That’s reality whether you chose to accept it or not. Romney’s plan is still far preferable than Hillary’s and particularly Obama’s.

Whoever is elected President will have a democrat congress. They will pass a health care bill and you are kidding yourself if you think McVain will not compromise and ultimately enact some form of Romney health care package. McVain is more a lover than a fighter when he is dealing with his democrat chums in the Senate.

[monkeyshine]

Well if it is identical to Hillarycare then he has no weakness as far as campaigning goes. If the media make healthcare an issue, he can say he has experience in implementing what Hillary merely proposes and has no experience with. And if the media want to say his program sucks, well then that doesn’t really help Hillary’s campaign for health care if it’s the same program.

[Antoninus]

Well if it is identical to Hillarycare then he has no weakness as far as campaigning goes.

Except with conservatives who think socialized medicine is a really, really, bad idea. Like 99% of the people on this website did before they drank the Romney Koolaide.

[Redbob]

"What, exactly, about Romney's economic plan makes it superior to McCain's?"

The fact that, just a couple weeks ago, McLame said words to the effect that "I don't really understand economics."?

You want an "economic plan" from a guy like that?
That's what we have now, and I can't help but think we can do better.

[Redbob]

"Pardon me, but I believe I've already heard the phrase "federal bailout" associated with RomneyCare."

No doubt you're right.