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Something must give — or will the fight be stopped (Pelosi said to be leaning towards Obama)
Times-UK ^ | Feb 13, 2008 | Tom Baldwin

Posted on 02/12/2008 2:41:18 PM PST by katieanna

The Democratic presidential race is now between a seemingly unstoppable force and an apparently immovable object.

Hillary Clinton is retrenching behind what her advisers call “a demographic brick wall” in Ohio and Texas — believing that Barack Obama’s momentum will be brought to a shuddering halt next month by the blue collar and Latino voters who have elsewhere remained largely loyal to her.

But Mr Obama still surges forward, putting his faith in the “fierce urgency of now” helping him to vault over the crucial elections on March 4, when 444 delegates are at stake, in the same way that he has already defied the laws of political campaigning.

Something, or someone, has to give. And eyes are turning to the Democratic leadership comprised of 796 “super-delegates”, one fifth of the total, who may yet act as a referee stopping this fight before it reaches the presidential nomination convention in August.


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KEYWORDS: 110th; elections; obama; pelosi
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The party Establishment is not going to turn its back on a candidate who is generating this tremendous excitement and bringing all these new voters into the political process,” said a source close to her.

1 posted on 02/12/2008 2:41:26 PM PST by katieanna
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To: katieanna
Queen Bee syndrome.
2 posted on 02/12/2008 2:42:34 PM PST by RatsDawg (Must stop McClinton!)
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To: RatsDawg

Maybe, but she carries a big stick among the superdelegates.


3 posted on 02/12/2008 2:43:10 PM PST by katieanna
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To: katieanna

Does anyone think the Clintons and their cadres will allow her to be stopped?


4 posted on 02/12/2008 2:43:31 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: katieanna

5 posted on 02/12/2008 2:44:26 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: katieanna

We need to see what the Clintons do behind the scenes with the super delegates. They will twist arms, and fight to get the Florida and Michigan delegates to be allowed at the Dem. convention. And, they will fight to use the results of the non-binding primaries in Fla. and Mich. as the basis for those delegates, because Hillary “won” those non-binding elections.

Even with Barack’s momentum, we know the Clintons will use every trick up their sleeves.


6 posted on 02/12/2008 2:44:48 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: katieanna

“Make book on it: no matter who wins the voting, Mrs. Clinton will be the nominee.” ~ Rush 02/12/2008

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/


7 posted on 02/12/2008 2:45:29 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Romney will get the VP nod if I have anything to do with it.)
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To: 3AngelaD

I think this is bigger than the Clintons at this point. Last democratic primary in Virginia drew 8% voter participation-today they expect 30-40%. With Obama bringing this many people to polls, that changes things. The establishment isn’t going to deny the guy if he gets more votes and delegates than Hillary.


8 posted on 02/12/2008 2:47:25 PM PST by katieanna
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To: Matchett-PI

I heard Rush when he said that. I think he’s wrong. See my previous post for my reasons.


9 posted on 02/12/2008 2:48:18 PM PST by katieanna
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To: katieanna

There can only be one queen bee.


10 posted on 02/12/2008 2:49:31 PM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: katieanna

Well, who did the Botox grandma vote for in the California primary?????????


11 posted on 02/12/2008 2:50:22 PM PST by petitfour
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To: katieanna

He’s “what’s happening NOW.”


12 posted on 02/12/2008 2:50:29 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: All

Have to scoot for a couple hours. Opine away...


13 posted on 02/12/2008 2:50:36 PM PST by katieanna
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To: katieanna

I think the Clintons have set up the Democratic nomination process to suit their needs and to see that he doesn’t get more delegates than Hillary, regardless of the votes. They will not go down without a fight, that is, a nuclear war, and it won’t be pretty if that happens.


14 posted on 02/12/2008 2:50:42 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: katieanna

All the talk about superdelegates, I’m starting to wonder if the fix is in, and the insiders know it. There’s an undercurrent in the comments of the tv pundits, suggesting that even if Obama wins more votes, Clinton will still prevail because the superdelegates will rescue her.
And they do seem to anticipate that Obama will win more votes.


15 posted on 02/12/2008 2:51:30 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Peel back tabs for tagline. Do not remove this label. Obey.)
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To: Matchett-PI

Rush is right. 800 of those delegates to the convention are party officials.

How many FBI files do you think Hillary and Bill have on them. It was nice to have the goods on Republican party officials, but it was a mandatory that the Clintons have the goods on Democrats.

They will either give the nomination to Hillary or there will be a huge increase in the number of former Democratic party officials serving time in our prison system.

Hillary will win Ohio and Texas as well as Pennsylvania. There is no way that white working class Democrats will vote for Obama. It will not happen.


16 posted on 02/12/2008 2:52:12 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: 3AngelaD

With respect, sounds to me you’ve given the Clinton’s more power than they really have. Yes, they’ve got power but not that much. Indeed, many in the Dem Establishment do not wish to see them back at 1600 Pennsylvania.
cheers!


17 posted on 02/12/2008 2:53:03 PM PST by katieanna
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To: Uncle Hal
Looks good for the GOP no matter which way this goes.

This halfrican Marxist won't know what to do if he get the nod, he will be a cliche and laughingstock by summer time.

And if he doesn't get it, all hell breaks loose at the convention.

18 posted on 02/12/2008 2:53:36 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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There’s also a lot of speculation that Clinton might be able to recapture the momentum, yet nobody puts forth a plausible way to do so. Only Obama can trip up Obama at this point.


19 posted on 02/12/2008 2:55:03 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Peel back tabs for tagline. Do not remove this label. Obey.)
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Clinton’s brick wall was supposed to be Super Tuesday. Didn’t happen.


20 posted on 02/12/2008 2:56:39 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Peel back tabs for tagline. Do not remove this label. Obey.)
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