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Titan's surface organics surpass oil reserves on Earth
SpaceRef.com ^ | February 13, 2008 | ESA

Posted on 02/13/2008 11:10:35 AM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald

Saturn's orange moon Titan has hundreds of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth, according to new Cassini data. The hydrocarbons rain from the sky, collecting in vast deposits that form lakes and dunes.

The new findings from the study led by Ralph Lorenz, Cassini radar team member from the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, USA, are reported in the 29 January 2008 issue of the Geophysical Research Letters.

"Titan is just covered in carbon-bearing material--it's a giant factory of organic chemicals," said Lorenz. "This vast carbon inventory is an important window into the geology and climate history of Titan."

At a balmy minus 179o C , Titan is a far cry from Earth. Instead of water, liquid hydrocarbons in the form of methane and ethane are present on the moon's surface, and tholins probably make up its dunes. The term 'tholins' was coined by Carl Sagan in 1979 to describe the complex organic molecules at the heart of prebiotic chemistry.

Cassini has mapped about 20% of Titan's surface with radar. Several hundred lakes and seas have been observed, with each of several dozen estimated to contain more hydrocarbon liquid than Earth's oil and gas reserves. The dark dunes that run along the equator contain a volume of organics several hundred times larger than Earth's coal reserves.

Proven reserves of natural gas on Earth total 130 thousand million tons, enough to provide 300 times the amount of energy the entire United States uses annually for residential heating, cooling and lighting. Dozens of Titan's lakes individually have the equivalent of at least this much energy in the form of methane and ethane.

"This global estimate is based mostly on views of the lakes in the northern polar regions. We have assumed the south might be similar, but we really don't yet know how much liquid is there," said Lorenz. Cassini's radar has observed the south polar region only once, and only two small lakes were visible. Future observations of that area are planned during Cassini's proposed extended mission.

Scientists estimated Titan's lake depth by making some general assumptions based on lakes on Earth. They took the average area and depth of lakes on Earth, taking into account the nearby surroundings, like mountains. On Earth, the lake depth is often 10 times less than the height of nearby terrain.

"We also know that some lakes are more than 10 m or so deep because they appear literally pitch-black to the radar. If they were shallow we'd see the bottom, and we don't," said Lorenz.

The question of how much liquid is on the surface is an important one because methane is a strong greenhouse gas on Titan as well as on Earth, but there is much more of it on Titan. If all the observed liquid on Titan is methane, it would only last a few million years, because as methane escapes into Titan's atmosphere, it breaks down and escapes into space. If the methane were to run out, Titan could become much colder. Scientists believe that methane might be supplied to the atmosphere by venting from the interior in cryovolcanic eruptions. If so, the amount of methane, and the temperature on Titan, may have fluctuated dramatically in Titan's past.

"We are carbon-based life, and understanding how far along the chain of complexity towards life that chemistry can go in an environment like Titan will be important in understanding the origins of life throughout the universe," added Lorenz.

Cassini's next radar flyby of Titan is on 22 February 2008, when the radar instrument will observe the landing site of ESA's Huygens probe.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abiogenic; abiotic; cassini; hydrocarbons; iamstakingmyclaim; itismineallmine; thomasgold; titan
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald; KevinDavis

Let’s get a space convoy going.

Space ping


21 posted on 02/13/2008 11:18:57 AM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: cizinec
How exactly is it organic?

Technically, anything based on carbon compounds is organic. Organic doesn't always have to refer to life, just the carbon. (old dictionaries still have it restricted to based on plants or animals, but the definition has been expanded.)

22 posted on 02/13/2008 11:19:30 AM PST by mnehring (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: liege
All these worlds are your's......


23 posted on 02/13/2008 11:19:44 AM PST by squidly
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To: ClearCase_guy

From what series or realm does this vessel belong to?


24 posted on 02/13/2008 11:20:12 AM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
I suppose the next Jed Clampett will need a ray gun to be “shoot’n at some food,” huh?
25 posted on 02/13/2008 11:20:31 AM PST by afortiori
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

The Audobon society, which gets large revenues from oil wells on land it owns in Louisiana, will probably object to building a pipline or drilling there because it will destroy the environment. “Oil Drilling on our land and we get the money is good, drilling on others land and them getting the money is bad.”


26 posted on 02/13/2008 11:21:02 AM PST by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: cizinec

“How exactly is it organic?”

It’s not a stupid question. Any carbon based molecule is referred to as being “organic”. It does not mean it has to be from a living thing.


27 posted on 02/13/2008 11:21:23 AM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Lurker

I was so hopeful to first to notice it...


28 posted on 02/13/2008 11:22:09 AM PST by alecqss
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To: cizinec

Good question.

“Organic” chemistry, and by extension the use of “organic compounds” as an expression for hydrocarbons is due to the importance of Carbon molecules in living organisms.

They’re not called organic because (for instance) they’re harvested from Chinese prisons and Coma victims, and then sold to the highest bidder. Though that would be cool.


29 posted on 02/13/2008 11:22:44 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: cizinec
How exactly is it organic?

Fair question: one of the definitions of "organic" is "relating to living matter".

As far as we know that doesn't apply here, and that's probably what led to your question.

But another definition of "organic" is "characterized by continuous or natural development".

That seems more appropriate.

30 posted on 02/13/2008 11:23:11 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: wastedyears
From what series or realm does this vessel belong to?

The movie Alien.

It's an extraterriestrial organism of peace.

31 posted on 02/13/2008 11:24:52 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

Dinosaurs on Titan?

Or, my theory, hydrocarbons are the basic building block of the universe...


32 posted on 02/13/2008 11:24:55 AM PST by marron
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To: Minn

“So does this have any bearing on the debate about whether oil comes from dead plants and animals?”

Absofreakinlutley. This discovery would seem to prove it doesn’t have to.


33 posted on 02/13/2008 11:25:04 AM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: cizinec

Generally implies carbon chains and some benzene rings in the chemistry of the compounds found.


34 posted on 02/13/2008 11:25:28 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: agere_contra
What’s all this talk about orgasmic chemistry? In my day, we never spoke openly...

Oh, never mind.

- Emily Latella

35 posted on 02/13/2008 11:25:35 AM PST by afortiori
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To: wastedyears
From what series or realm does this vessel belong to?

Fragmentary Clue - "In Space, No-one..."

36 posted on 02/13/2008 11:25:44 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

They mustta had a alot of dinosaurs up there!


37 posted on 02/13/2008 11:26:44 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

AND Yet... no scientists are studing how the natural prodution of hydro carbons is possible.. So that WE can do it.. Might not need fusion if making hydro carbons were easily doable..


38 posted on 02/13/2008 11:26:51 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

If we had the technology to get there, we wouldn’t need oil.


39 posted on 02/13/2008 11:27:14 AM PST by mikeus_maximus ('92, '96', '00', '06: The GOP didn't listen, they're not listening still... perhaps they never will.)
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To: KarlInOhio
It's an extraterrestrial organism of peace.

LOL. And John Hurt was the first human to appease it.

40 posted on 02/13/2008 11:27:19 AM PST by agere_contra
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