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Hillary and the Super Delegates (How she'll avoid a riot in Denver)
Mullings.com ^ | Friday 02/15/2008 | Rich Galen

Posted on 02/14/2008 8:33:47 PM PST by Matchett-PI

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To: A CA Guy

Hillary will be forced to put Obama on the ticket in order not to lose the black vote by default in the general.

But I think Obama is part of a long term strategy and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if his dark team wouldn’t find a right winger to eliminate Hillary at some point in order to elevate Obama to the Presidency.

Ya know, it’s difficult to figure out which of these Marxists would be worse. They will both give our national security information to other Marxists leaders in the world, but I think Obama may also give secrets to Muslim radicals.

If it isn’t the End Times, I don’t know what else we have to do as a culture to insure our total destruction. This election pretty much puts the sappers in place to mine the rest of the foundation loadbearers and to push the ignition button for the primers.


41 posted on 02/15/2008 12:24:04 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth
A Hillary/Obama ticket would have all the chemistry of the JFK/LBJ team.

Tinfoil hat on while sitting in a copper cage.:)

42 posted on 02/15/2008 12:48:25 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: Matchett-PI

The logic of this is totally flawed. The whole country will see the tactics you described as theft of the nomination and nobody will be fooled. If Obama takes the majority of the pledged delegates secured by votes in the state primaries and caucuses and is denied the nomination, YOU WILL SEE A RIOT IN DENVER!


43 posted on 02/15/2008 1:39:36 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Matchett-PI

“How many FBI files do you think Hillary and Bill have on them. It was nice to have the goods on Republican party officials, but it was a mandatory that the Clintons have the goods on Democrats.”

I say those superdelegates who are having second thoughts about Hillary will be back in the fold in no time once they realize that HRC has the goods on them via her FBI files. She is one slick operator. Blackmail is a *itch.


44 posted on 02/15/2008 2:13:06 AM PST by freedom4me (No compromise w/ the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact w/ unrepentant wrong. --Churchill)
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To: patriciaruth

Hillary will be forced to put Obama on the ticket in order not to lose the black vote by default in the general.

100 percent agress. Obama will be forced into the Vice Presidency. Some back room agreement will be made. If this happens, I feel that the Republicans are dead in the water this election.


45 posted on 02/15/2008 2:53:21 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: aShepard
"Enquiring minds want to know!!"

Well, consulting the good old history books we know a few things:

1.Accurate accounting of sources of cash and cash flow has never been a Clinton priority.

2.The Clintons, once they have their hands on cash, never, never, ever let it go. Their expenses are for the little people to pay.

Given the above, what is your educated guess?

46 posted on 02/15/2008 4:12:11 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Matchett-PI
the insiders who could undo a bad decision by those pesky voters in primaries and caucuses.

This is a very good thing, although not enough to save the dying political parties.

Primary elections with low/no bar to voter participation are the last nail in the coffin of the 19th century "political party". The voters, maybe a majority of them, have no interest in, or conception of, the well-being of the party. It is FAR more likely that elected officials or other big shots do.

Take the New Hampshire Democratic party for example (please).

On January 8, 2008, I was a registered Democrat for 7.5 minutes. I voted for Obama in a (vain) attempt to cripple Hillary.

What kind of sense does it make for me to have the same voice in what they do as the former governor, or an elected congressthing?

None, that's how much.

Voting with no barrier to participation makes sense (barely) in November, because it's a binary contest where A or B is an answer.

But to nominate the candidate of a specific political party, uninvolved or barely involved voters, whether they are "registered" or not, should have nothing to do with it.

Bring back the smoke-filled room.

47 posted on 02/15/2008 4:22:55 AM PST by Jim Noble (Look out kid, they keep it all hid)
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To: Matchett-PI
Lanny (and many Freepers) still don't get it.

Hillary did not have a backup plan.

She was so certain whe would wrap up the nomination by February 5 that she didn't see a need for one. The superdelegates already committed to her are the ones she has control over.

The remaining superdelegates are out of her reach. The majority will go for Obama--before the convention.
48 posted on 02/15/2008 4:25:07 AM PST by cgbg (That heat you feel is not global warming. It is the wicked witch melting melting.)
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To: Laptop_Ron
Heck, there’s an FBI file on ME, but I don’t have anything in it (that’s true) that could be used for blackmail.

...yes but your not a public figure, a politician's file can be and is always used to slime and degrade whether or not there's any truth to allegations...the subject has to defend himself. Rats always use it with the help of the MSM....it's called the policy of personal destruction, the clintons are experts at it...(with the MSM playing the key role)

49 posted on 02/15/2008 4:25:38 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: cgbg
The remaining superdelegates are out of her reach. The majority will go for Obama--before the convention.

..don't be so sure. When it comes to $$$$ and politicians and the power they seek, they would sell their youngest

50 posted on 02/15/2008 4:31:51 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Matchett-PI

...here’s a the list where SD’s are...(you can rest assured waiting with open palms)

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html


51 posted on 02/15/2008 4:35:43 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: chaos_5

“how did the liberators get tagged as the oppressors, i just don’t get it.”

you’ll get it when you investigate dr. goebbles and his antics in the propaganda ministry.


52 posted on 02/15/2008 4:37:19 AM PST by ripley
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To: Matchett-PI
I am not seeing much difference in means and methods of how either party ran the primaries. McCain's wins have mainly consisted of liberal/independents selecting the Republican nominee. How many Americans have yet to vote in their respective primaries, millions, hardly a representative functioning government any longer. Yet it is conservatives that continue to get bashed when they find the whole process fixed. Oh but now McCain and company believe his anointing requires the rest of US for country to fall right in behind at the rear.

I have seen NO sign of repentance out of McCain's unholy rebellion over the past many years, why now would I find him a CHANGED man.

53 posted on 02/15/2008 4:37:32 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Matchett-PI
Time to put on my TIN FOIL thinking cap and offer an alternative theory.

I think the fixs has been in for a long time.

I always wondered how Hillary would be able to survive a long campaign, especially as the front runner. Everyone would be attacking her.

Well now we have the answer. Obama is running interference for her. As the "leader" he is getting all the press and attacks (as lame as they have been). Hillary is sitting back just coasting to the convention.

At the convention the vote will magically be revealed in Hilliary's favor, Obama will be offered the VP, which he will accept since that was his price all along.

What is curious to me is how they mananged to get the Republican party to nominate McCain and needlessly tear apart the party's base. That to me is the real story for the election of 2008, not that we will ever hear it.

Anyway, Hillary will win the nomination without every having to answer one tough question. And from there she will go on a listening tour making stops at Oprah and 60 Minutes.

And in November when the voters are given a choice of voting between a socialist and a socialist, a socialist will win.

This will be the main stream medias finest hour, they have finally fooled the people and got the results they have always wanted.

I am now removing my TIN FOIL thinking cap.

54 posted on 02/15/2008 4:38:31 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Matchett-PI

the super delegate system....

kind of like the supreme soviet.


55 posted on 02/15/2008 4:46:27 AM PST by ripley
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To: Matchett-PI
I cannot imagine how ticked the blacks are going to be if MI and FL are given to her in any way after she was the only one on the ballot, especially in MI. Talk about disenfranchising people!

Yesterday a caller on Rush said that the GOP has its nominee, now we need to vote in the OH and TX Dem primaries for Obama, insuring that no matter what happens in Super-delegates or MI/FL, she's not nominated.

I'd rather have Obama than risk her ultimate victory in November. Please, let's get rid of her NOW!

56 posted on 02/15/2008 4:49:14 AM PST by MHT
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To: Matchett-PI

This scenario is one I laid out a few days ago, but it doesn’t tell “the rest of the story”.

After Hillary steals the nomination, Obama supporters will be livid!

Obama supporters will soon recognize that McCain continues to be brow beaten by conservatives.....so McCain couldn’t be that bad.

Obama supporters cross over and vote for McCain (and his VP Romney)
Mac wins.....No Senator, turned Prez has survived his 1st term.....Hello Prez Romney...


57 posted on 02/15/2008 4:51:56 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: Matchett-PI

While there are other outcomes, there are two possible outcomes of this situation that are both bad for the Democrats. 1) Hillary effectively steals the nomination from Obama = mass discontent among the base. 2) Hillary fails to steal the nomination = Clintonian scorched-earth policy; the Clintons have no party loyalty and would rather see their party lose than to let a rival win.


58 posted on 02/15/2008 5:01:38 AM PST by kevkrom (Voters say they want substance, but then they just vote for the guy with nice hair instead.)
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To: MHT
I'm not so sure. The more I see of Obama, the more he scares me as much as Hillary does.

And right now he is spending far more money to buy superdelegate votes than she is: $694,000 for Obama versus $195,500 for Clinton.

Source: www.capitaleye.org/inside.asp?ID=336

59 posted on 02/15/2008 5:12:35 AM PST by Heatseeker (To err is human, but to really screw up it takes the Berkeley City Council)
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To: Matchett-PI

This article is a good analysis of both races.


60 posted on 02/15/2008 5:21:10 AM PST by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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