Hillary and the Super Delegates (How she'll avoid a riot in Denver)

Mullings.com ^ | Friday 02/15/2008 | Rich Galen

[tcrlaf]

It’s already too late for that.

Because of the way Democrats assign Delegates proportionally in the primaries, the Supers will now decide this.

Obama has to run something like 85% of the table to win outright, and that’s just not going to happen, especially with the huge Hispanic population in Texas.

PENNSYLVANNIA is likely going to decide the Dem Delegate leader going into convention, and Rendell has already pretty much assured everyone that the MACHINE is going to deliver, FOR HILLARY..

We’ll see, but this is ALREADY devolving into a HIGH_BIDDER war for Uber-rich Super-Delegates.

I love the smell of burning hypocritical Democrats in the mornin’....

[astounded]

It is puzzling, but I guess the “one drop” rule still must hold among a large proportion US blacks. Too bad.

[G Larry]

You may note that LBJ was a VP turned Prez.

[Doogle]

that they’d seriously damage the party and - more important to them - their reputations.

..and that matters to them?

[Utah Girl]

I’ve read that the super-delegates are getting called daily by Bill Clinton, and Chelsea Clinton is having lunch and dinner with them quite frequently. Wonder what they are being promised to swing to Hillary!?

[cgbg]

Two of Hillary's pledged superdelegates already switched to Obama after the eight-state landslide sweep.

There will be more.

Watch the numbers, people. Obama has more volunteers in places like Columbus and Cincinnati than Hillary can get to attend her rallies. In Texas Obama has major operations in twenty cities while Hillary is focusing almost totally on the Hispanic areas.

Pay attention, people!

Obama will have a two hundred plus delegate lead before PA ever votes. Hillary will be out of the race long before then, and "fast Eddie" will have to face the music in his home town.

[The Bat Lady]

Mike Huckabee, by refusing to leave the race, thus goes from running a quixotic and marginally heroic campaign against McCain, to being a laughing-stock or worse, a disloyal Republican.

HEY, I haven't gotten to vote yet here in TEXAS, I would like a choice there in the voting booth!

[Laptop_Ron]

No, I’m not. Not even part-time.

[gonzo]

Good catch, Jan ................ FRegards

[ErieGeno]

Quite honestly, I would have a MAJOR problem if 40% of the votes for the GOP primary came from sleazy politicians, local, state, and national!!!!!!!The voting democrats surely have to have a problem with it? No???????

[gonzo]

Bump .............. FRegards

[JulieRNR21]

Thanks for the ping. Interesting ploy by the Clinton machine.

I also read that both HillBilly & Obama have been ‘greasing the palms’ of these super delegates.

[libstripper]

For a full rundown on this fascinating situation, we should all read this in conjunction with the DNC press release of January 8, 2008 giving the committee lineup for their national convention, posted here at FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1971371/posts

and today’s Townhall.com article by Michael Barone, posted here at FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1971329/posts

[Matchett-PI]

Thanks for putting those links in the thread. bttt

[gonzo]

It just keeps getting more interesting ............ FRegards

[SunkenCiv]

The Fix is in for Hillary
Poe.com | January 7, 2008 | Richard Lawrence Poe
Posted on 01/07/2008 6:29:17 PM EST by Richard Poe
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1949890/posts

[snip] Should Hillary falter in the primaries, the superdelegates will likely come to her rescue and nominate her anyway. [end]

[Mom MD]

There are plenty of blacks in Denver. I sure hope there aren’t riots as I live here and don’t want to have to clean up the mess. I am thinking about taking a well timed vacation.

[flaglady47]

“Make book on it: no matter who wins the voting, Mrs. Clinton will be the nominee.” ~ Rush 02/12/2008”

This is one time I think Rush may be wrong. If Clinton’s opposition was just an ordinary candidate this would be true. But Obama isn’t an ordinary candidate. He is Black. That changes the whole dynamic. The Dem Party will be loathe to dump over a Black candidate for the Clinton machine. It would alienate their Black base for years to come and split the Dem party in two. I can’t see the Dems taking that chance, even for the Clintons. We’ll find out sooner than later what will happen. Will be fun to watch.

[Political Junkie Too]

The flaw in this scenario is that Obama can still call for a revote in Michigan and Florida, instead of seating delegates in a supposed "win" for Hillary! when nobody else campaigned.

To the argument that there are no "do-overs" in elections, the primaries are not elections -- they are party processes to select a nominee; the rules are up to each party to determine; the rules are different for each party; and a party ought to be able to determine its own rules for selecting a nominee.

There is nothing in the Constitution regarding parties or primaries, so there isn't a Supreme Court issue here regarding the Constitutionality regarding redoing a primary if a party that previously disqualified a state chooses to reschedule the primary selection vote to a later date in order to requalify the state's delegates.

I'd like to see the Clinton response to a request to requalify Michigan and Florida by holding new primaries with fair competition.

-PJ

[Bob Ireland]

***Mike Huckabee, by refusing to leave the race, thus goes from running a quixotic and marginally heroic campaign against McCain, to being a laughing-stock or worse, a disloyal Republican.***

I begin to suspect that Huckabee is being paid by the RNC to keep the race going on the GOP side; if McCain defacto wins the Repub nomination now, all media attention will be on the two Demonic-Rats ad nauseum until after the conventions.

I think we will now have to go to a National Primary Day [states still running their own elections], perhaps in late May. The current process is not only toooo loooong, it encourages corruption to raise all the $$$$ needed to campaign for 15 months.