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A Super Fight Down the Road (Si Se Puede!)
TownHall.com ^ | Saturday, February 16, 2008 | Michael Barone

Posted on 02/16/2008 1:21:30 AM PST by JohnHuang2

It's appropriate that our two major political parties are depicted as different animals. Forty days and forty nights out from the Iowa caucuses, the elephant and the donkey seem very different indeed. The Republicans have been split on attitudinal lines, between varying strains of conservatism and moderation. Continues...

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Si Se Puede!

Schadenfreude! Schadenfreude! Schadenfreude! Another big-margin shellacking of Cackles, and I'm swimming in schadenfreude! It's such a beautiful thing.

The Clintoncrats keep claiming hysterically that Hillary is the most "qualified" to handle the Ahmaneedajobs and bin Ladens of the world yet she can't even beat that fellow named Hussein. Maybe Democrats will quit their silly 'Bush can't find Osama' applause line since Hillary can't seem to catch Obama.

In fairness, she did "fire" campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle, praising her for doing "an extraordinary job" that placed the nomination "within reach" -- for Obama. After hiring Solis Doyle, Hillary had her move to Iowa, apparently to oversee Hillary's defeat there. Yes, Ready from Day One, that Hillary.

Showing their uncanny insight into the voters, the Clintons -- after getting creamed in Louisiana, Nebraska, Washington state and the Virgin Islands -- predicted Obama would get creamed in Maine on Sunday. The AP bragged that the Maine caucuses would "put a brake on Barack Obama's momentum after the Illinois senator routed (Clinton) in four Democratic contests over the weekend." Obama rode the brake on his momentum all the way to victory -- 59%-40%.

Apparently braking his momentum further, Obama has pulled ahead in the delegate count, "even when the support of uncommitted super delegates is figured in" (CBS, 2/10).

On the basis of her hysterical speeches at nut rallies, Hillary's plan for 'victory' in Iraq consists of surrendering Iraq to al-Qaeda in 60 days, pulling out and declaring victory, which -- come to think of it -- happens to be my advice to her campaign: Stop crying, pull out and declare victory! Obama'll really fall for that.

She may already be partially taking my advice, if pundits are to be believed (we know how good their track record is). According to them, Hillary is partially pulling out of a good chunk of states holding primaries/caucuses in February. She's banking on having a whole month of stunning losses in order to stage a comeback in the big states in March. This strategy worked so well for Giuliani.

Liberals constantly nag Bush about going into Iraq 'without a plan', yet Clinton & Clinton spent 7+ years thinking up their "Restoration" and now they're stuck in a quagmire. Poor darlings. Right now, the best you can say is that the push to return the horn dog rapist and that two-bit swamp hag back to the White House is bogged down in a civil war. Hillary leads among Hispanic-Americans, but Obama leads among African-Americans, but Hillary leads among women-Americans, but Obama leads among Starbucks-Americans, but Hillary leads among left-handed Superdelegate-Americans.

Already the party honchos are warning of looming disaster if the quagmire lasts all the way to the convention. Speaking of disaster, Howard Dean said recently that "we're going to have to get the candidates together and make some kind of arrangement, because I don't think we can afford to have a brokered convention."

Democrat Sen. Bill Nelson complained that "if one of our leading candidates does not get a majority by the time" the primaries and caucuses are over, "then we go into a period during June, July and all the way to the end of August at the National Democratic Convention, a period of enormous uncertainty and turmoil" -- you know, like when a Democrat gets elected.

Howard Dean says the way to fix the problem caused by his idiotic idea of punishing Michigan and Florida for moving their primaries up would be for Michigan and Florida to hold caucuses, but -- in a show of party unity the press keeps telling us about -- Florida Sen. Bill Nelson, who supports Hillary, rejected Dean's idea, saying that "you can't undo an election with caucuses." You do it with hanging chads. Florida Democrats seem to be experts at trying to undo elections.

As a metaphor for why it's been a long, hard slog for the Clinton Machine against some 3-year senate rookie just out of puberty, today (Monday) Cackles tried to dismiss her losses over the weekend as, oh, just a buncha caucuses, no big deal, and besides, we're not going to "win Alaska or North Dakota or Idaho or Nebraska" in the fall but next month we'll bag the primary in that always reliably blue state of . . . Texas! (Dumping her top Latina should do wonders there.) But even Texas's not a sure thing for Herself, since it's set up as part primary and part caucus, so she'll be waking up to smell the caucuses there too.

Louisiana primary? No big deal there either -- just a buncha energized blacks, "a very proud African-American electorate," Hillary sniffed. But, hold on, that's the nub right there. To make themselves believe November is in the bag, Democrats and the media keep touting high turnout for Democrats from Iowa on, but the bulging big-time turnout figures include places like South Carolina, Alabama, North Dakota, Idaho, Nebraska, etc., places which, to cite Hildebeast, Democrats have only slightly less than a snowball's chance in hell of carrying. Run Hillary in GOP primaries/caucuses, and the Stop Hillary vote there would make Democrats pikers in the turnout biz.

The point being that the Obama vote is the quintessential Stop Hillary vote, a good chunk of it Pubbies crossing over for kicks. But the bulging turnout in purely closed primaries/caucuses means Democrats aren't immune to polarization from Missus Polarizer -- blacks the most polarized in the lot against Klu Klux Cackles. Given the nomination math on the GOP side, the swollen "Democrat turnout" will swell still further.

Clinton honcho Mark Penn has run a kind of old school yawn-o-rama campaign based on pretending George Bush will be on the ballot and running on "experience" even though Democrats got the hots for "change". Look at the current trajectory and it's a crapshoot who bags Ohio and Pennsylvania but the good money is on this going all the way to a circular firing squad in Denver -- "settled" via dirty tricks by the Super Duper Delegates. If Obama goes in on top, delegate-wise (and it looks headed that way), the Clintons make a move on the Supers and swing the vote their way, and swapping the token Hispanic-woman-American Solis Doyle for the token woman-African-American Maggie Williams isn't your lame-o staff shake-up but how they're going after Mr. Audacity of Hope in the hopes of audaciously racking up the superdelegate count. It means my dream MELTDOWN scenario -- party grandees flipping voters the bird, Hillary the Selected Not Elected Nominee -- is going to happen! Stay tuned.

Anyway, that's...
My Two Cents...
"JohnHuang2"



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1 posted on 02/16/2008 1:21:31 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ladyinred; Angel; ..

Ping!


2 posted on 02/16/2008 1:21:56 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

Good post John :-)


3 posted on 02/16/2008 1:26:18 AM PST by Bobalu (I guess I done see'd that varmint for the last time....)
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To: JohnHuang2
Howard Dean said recently that "we're going to have to get the candidates together and make some kind of arrangement, because I don't think we can afford to have a brokered convention."

So, what is that, a brokered pre-convention? Kinda takes the voters out of the loop, doesn't it?

4 posted on 02/16/2008 1:26:31 AM PST by Rocky
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To: JohnHuang2
The current GOP:



5 posted on 02/16/2008 1:42:35 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: JohnHuang2
There is no way that this doesn't go into the convention undecided unless the beast drops out voluntarily(highly unlikely).

Since the delegates in the remaining states are awarded proportionately, Obama could win ALL of the remaining primaries and still not have enough delegates to get to the magic number.

If she wins Texas and Ohio there will be blood in the streets in Denver come August.

6 posted on 02/16/2008 1:46:20 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: SkyPilot

2008 DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION!!

Schedule of Events:
7:00pm - Opening flag burning
7:15pm - Pledge of Allegiance to the U. N.
7:20pm - Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
7:25pm - Nonreligious prayer and worship with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton
7:45pm - Ceremonial tree hugging
7:55pm - Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
8:00pm - How I Invented the Internet - Al Gore
8:35pm - Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
8:40pm - Our Troops are War Criminals - John Kerry
9.00pm - Memorial service for Saddam and his sons - Cindy Sheehan and Susan Sarandon
10:00pm - “Answering Machine Etiquette” - Alec Baldwin
11:00pm - Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
11:05pm - Collection for the Osama Bin Laden kidney transplant fund, Barbra Streisand
11:15 pm - Free the Freedom Fighters fro m Guantanamo Bay Sean Penn
11:30 pm - Oval Office Affairs - William Jefferson Clinton
11:45pm - Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
11:50 pm - How George Bush Brought Down the World Trade Towers - Howard Dean
12:15 am - “Truth in Broadcasting Award” - Presented to Dan Rather by Michael Moore
12:25 am - Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
12:30 am - Satellite address by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
12:45 am - Nomination of Hillary Rodham Clinton by Nancy Pelosi
1:00 am - Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
1:05 am - Coronation of Hillary Rodham Clinton
1:30 am - Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
1:35 am - Bill Clinton asks Ted Kennedy to drive Hillary home


7 posted on 02/16/2008 1:56:29 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Rome2000

>>If she wins Texas and Ohio there will be blood in the streets in Denver come August.

Internecine battles on the left are much bloodier than those on the right, for a number of reasons.

I would love to see this outcome. Go, Hillary, show them you ain’t no ways tard!


8 posted on 02/16/2008 2:44:36 AM PST by oblomov (Molok Obama is so inspirational. He inspires me to offshore assets & buy as many guns as I can.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Southern Strategy
9 posted on 02/16/2008 2:49:25 AM PST by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: JohnHuang2
If Hillary had run her primary campaign further to the left, she wouldn't be having these problems. But she chose to run more to the center because she thought that running as more moderate in the primary would help her win the general election.

Keep in mind that Hillary was given her NY Senate seat so that she could be re-invented as a moderate.

While the split in the GOP is often noted, recognize that there is bad blood between the Social Democrats and the DLC-New Democrats as to who will control the party.

10 posted on 02/16/2008 3:19:22 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: JohnHuang2

11 posted on 02/16/2008 3:22:37 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: JohnHuang2

Nice one JH

I notice that the Crinton Machine has put the arm on two has beens, Julian Bond and Al Crapton to seat the Michigan and Florida delegation.

Does an Obama Presidency threaten the NAACP, the Congressional Black Caucus, Sharpton and Jackson fraudsters?


12 posted on 02/16/2008 3:28:22 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Democrat, a synonym for Traitor)
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To: SkyPilot
LOL! Good ones.

McCain reaches across the hill


13 posted on 02/16/2008 3:32:52 AM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: JohnHuang2

As I heard it described the other day, the superdelegate system was designed to prevent an unelectable candidate from gaining the nomination due to voter “exuberance.”

That’s like they looked at McGovern and saw Obama, way back when. The Obama scenario is exactly what the system is supposed to remedy.

Remains to be seen if they’ll have the guts to use it, or if the superdelegates will cooperate.


14 posted on 02/16/2008 4:05:23 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Peel back tabs for tagline. Do not remove this label. Obey.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Sharpton is being used, IMO, to accomplish what he doesn’t want accomplished. In drawing him into this issue and engaging him, they will get him to compromise, and any compromise helps the Beast.
The rules were clear, the two states were supposed to be out of the equation.
There should be no discussion of it now. Discussion leads to fiddling and finagling. Then Sharpton et alia get maneuvered into approving of a solution and all solutions favor the Beast and foul the respect for rules.


15 posted on 02/16/2008 4:14:59 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Peel back tabs for tagline. Do not remove this label. Obey.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
The answer to your question is answered in video. Find the dim convention 2004 and watch dumbo’s speech. Watch the look that Sharpton and Jackson give “ears” when he is giving his speech. They hate the crack smoking fag from chitown.

LLS

16 posted on 02/16/2008 4:39:14 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("There is no conservative alternative in the race. It's just that simple." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: JohnHuang2
Hey, that's a super question!

"Senator, what would you do to catch Osama Bin Laden?"

The answer would have to give a genuine insight into foreign policy.

17 posted on 02/16/2008 4:44:47 AM PST by Bogie
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To: JohnHuang2; All

Here’s the DNC lineup for their convention, including the all-important Credentials Committee:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1971371/posts?page=1

Read it in conjunction with this article. Things get very interesting.


18 posted on 02/16/2008 5:25:31 AM PST by libstripper
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To: JohnHuang2

Bump for later.


19 posted on 02/16/2008 5:26:19 AM PST by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: ATLDiver; trifona

Ping.


20 posted on 02/16/2008 5:27:56 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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