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1 posted on 02/15/2008 10:29:08 AM PST by paltz
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Get your kids out of public school.


2 posted on 02/15/2008 10:31:36 AM PST by donna (Separated at birth: Hugo Rafael Chavez and Barack Hussein Obama.)
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California has some of the nation's most liberal anti-discrimination, anti-bullying and "diversity" laws, including several that apply to schools and took effect on Jan. 1.

Wasted money.

3 posted on 02/15/2008 10:32:04 AM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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“’As a nation, we’ve had our heads in the sand for far too long,’ said Kevin Jennings, executive director of GLSEN.”

Well Kev, your head has certainly been in something for too long. Doubt it would pass for sand though.


4 posted on 02/15/2008 10:33:08 AM PST by gate2wire (Even when you know, you never know.)
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5 posted on 02/15/2008 10:34:15 AM PST by Sloth (If you took an oath to support & defend the U.S. Constitution, can you vote for its domestic enemy?)
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No excuse for a shooting, but the kid was a little more than “gay”. He wore dresses, high-heels, lipstick, and fingernail polish to school.


7 posted on 02/15/2008 10:35:27 AM PST by angkor
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Ten years after Wyoming college student Matthew Shepard was brutally murdered because of his sexual orientation, a 15-year-old gay California student is brain dead after a student allegedly shot him because of his sexual orientation and gender expression," the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network said in a news release.

Once every 10 years. This is nearly epidemic.

8 posted on 02/15/2008 10:40:12 AM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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What is the ‘difference’ in punishment between cold-blooded, premeditated murder of someone you love and cold-blooded premeditated murder of someone you hate?


9 posted on 02/15/2008 10:41:52 AM PST by PISANO
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If I'm ever on a jury that hears a "hate crime" case I will,regardless of how serious the underlying crime is,vote "not guilty" on any "hate crime" charge.If a white guy assaults a black guy...or a woman...or a homosexual...I will consider the evidence presented as to the guilt or innocence of the defendant and will cast my vote accordingly.

But *****NO***** "hate crime" conviction with any jury on which I sit.

14 posted on 02/15/2008 10:58:11 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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"We must confront the fact that LGBT [lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender] students are much more likely to be threatened with a weapon and much more likely to feel unsafe at school than other students," Jennings said.

More than overweight students? I seem to remember the 'fat' kids getting picked on quite a bit. And you can't be 'in the closet' or be secretive about being overweight. Basic reality: Kids are cruel to any other child that deviates from the boilerplate, be it weight, nerdiness or the fact that they're a frigging cross dresser. The idea that they would somehow insinuate that gay kids are more worthy of bullying protection than other bullied kids is infuriating. They might say "we're not insinuating that!" and my response is simply they did the moment they made this about orientation instead of 'bullying' in general. I see the word "agenda" written all over this: because they don't care about kids getting bullied, they care about THEIR kids getting bullied. And when you advocate for a slice of people that identify with you rather than addressing the larger problem, that's an agenda.
16 posted on 02/15/2008 11:06:47 AM PST by jack_napier (Bob? Gun.)
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He should have shot the parents..../sarc. Seriously, why would parents allow this. My three boys better not come home and ask to wear makeup and women’s clothes. I might have a heart attack. However, at 18 they can do whatever but not under my roof.


18 posted on 02/15/2008 11:09:05 AM PST by napscoordinator
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ooo...bringing back the Matthew Shepard story...which was obviously a hate crime...right?

This...
http://www.covenantnews.com/dirkhising.htm
...was obviously not a hate crime and was therefore completely ignored by the MSM.

I want to remind everyone about Jesse’s forgotten, not reported, not news worthy, not a hate crime, crime. And I’ll do it EVERY time we have to listen to the homosexual-agenda-pushers beginning with their comparisons to Matthew Shepard.

Homo killed by heteros...hate crime
hetero juvenile murdered after being brutally raped by homos...not a hate crime

21 posted on 02/15/2008 11:20:05 AM PST by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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a 15-year-old gay California student is brain dead after a student allegedly shot him because of his sexual orientation and gender expression

Murder is hateful, whatever the reason. People who wear the opposite sex's clothing should not have special rights.

23 posted on 02/15/2008 11:37:55 AM PST by TheThinker
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[”We must confront the fact that LGBT [lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender] students are much more likely to be threatened with a weapon and much more likely to feel unsafe at school than other students,” Jennings said.]

Public schools should get out of the LGBT [lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender] business and back into the RRR’s [reading writing and rithmetic]. Hint: start by finding teachers who can pass the exams they’re supposed to teach, before they go extinct.

By the way if this child (the victim) had been allowed to attend school dressed like that the responsible school officials should be fired/sued/put in jail for reckless endangerment.


33 posted on 02/15/2008 1:07:48 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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From the article: "As GLSEN itself noted, California is one of only 10 states that protect students from ..."

If not for the damage they do, liberals would be quite entertaining. How one can simultaneously credit Kalifornia with protecting people while discussing the attack which is the subject of the article, is an amazing feat of "DoubleThink". It should be obvious that the laws in question protect nobody.

35 posted on 02/15/2008 3:07:50 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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ping


36 posted on 02/15/2008 3:38:53 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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California has some of the nation’s most liberal anti-discrimination, anti-bullying and “diversity” laws, including several that apply to schools and took effect on Jan. 1.


And still you cannot legislate against the laws of God or of nature.


46 posted on 02/15/2008 4:28:30 PM PST by Grunthor (Conservative in voluntary exile since 2006.)
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Ten years after Wyoming college student Matthew Shepard was brutally murdered because of his sexual orientation...

Matthew Shepard went looking for gay sex from male strangers, always a risky activity in more ways than one. He had the bad luck to encounter two thugs who were looking for someone weak to rob. He was not killed because he was gay. When will this politically correct myth die?

If the testimony of Shepard's killers can be believed, Shepard grabbed the crotch of one of his killers in a fit of gay passion. That probably explains some of the rage that killed him. Straight males do not enjoy having their crotches grabbed by gay males. (I speak from personal experience.)

Male homosexuals have been sacred cows in American culture for so long that some believe that they have a license to engage in extremely offensive public behavior and speech. In this culture, when a straight man sexually harasses a straight woman, and she objects, the straight man is the bad guy. When a gay male sexually harasses a straight male, and he objects, once again the straight male is the bad guy (for demonstrating his "homophobia" and his inability to "take it like a man.") It adds up to a formula for producing fury.

The article does not adequately describe what provoked this shooting. It presumes that the gay kid was minding his own business when the homophobe shot him for being gay. Whatever happened here, that was not it.

Certainly the shooter should be prosecuted, but it would help to hear the story from the shooter's perspective. It might teach some gays to moderate their behavior if they understood how much anger it can create, particularly in males who are unsure of their own sexuality. Of course, some gays act out precisely because they enjoy the outrage they can produce.

55 posted on 02/15/2008 6:52:50 PM PST by TChad
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"California has some of the nation's most liberal fascist anti-discrimination, anti-bullying and "diversity" laws..."
57 posted on 02/15/2008 7:05:25 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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So many hateful comments on this thread.
I love FR and my fellow freepers but threads like this make me wince.
IMO the proper sort of comments to be made in a thread like this are...
“Prayers for the family of the child that was shot”
“Prayers and best wishes for the child him/her self”
and perhaps even “prayers for the disturbed kid that fired the shot”

Some of the comments being made here are disturbing.


64 posted on 02/15/2008 8:26:02 PM PST by Bobalu (I guess I done see'd that varmint for the last time....)
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Why did the school principal allow a 14-year old male student to wear makeup, high heels and feminine attire to school?


65 posted on 02/15/2008 8:29:03 PM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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