Posted on 02/15/2008 1:51:19 PM PST by DCBryan1
Sometimes I think my teenage neice is a better researcher, journalist, and patriot than even...gasp...fox news commentators.
I just heard Neil Cavuto "confirm" that new updates were coming in that the NIU gunman had "legally bought his weapons and accessories from the internet". In addition , Cavuto specifically mentioned high-capacity "clips" (NOTE: THEY ARE CALLED MAGAZINES) and a "glock holster" from the same online retail gun dealer that the nut at V Tech used.
However, with 5 minutes of searching on the internet, or even a phone call to a local gunstore (with an FFL) any "journalist" can find that:
1) All firearms "bought on the internet" are held by an retail gunstore or distributor (with an FFL).
2) All firearms are transfered, tax free, to the FFL in which the buyer is a legal resident after the transaction is completed.
3) The firearm is then transfered to the citizen at the FFL in his/her own state of residence after filling out an inspid form 4473 and a call to NICS.
4) After this, I believe, in Illinois, you have to have a certain "permit" to even take possession.
Anyways, I am digressing...What the truth is really does fly in the face of what the local, regional, cable, and alphabet networks want you to belive: that guns (and evil magazines) can be bought and delivered to madmen at the click of a mouse.
.../rant off...
BANG!
“But, was he driving a white Bronco? Dear GOD, tell me he was driving a white Bronco!!”
( /Greta-voice)
If only one other student had been armed, the number of deaths would have been minimized.
A "GUN FREE ZONE" is once again responsible for the deaths of multiple people.
When are the stupid people going to learn?
Well at least Geraldo never had time to pick some guy at random on the internet and claim he was the shooter.
FoxNews is just as bad....no I take that back. FoxNews is worse then CNN et al because FoxNews should know better.
Both murderers bought magazines from the affiliates of Eric Thompson.
Disgusting. I wish it was that easy to buy a gun on the net. I’d have a nice MP-5 sitting in the closet!
Illinois is pretty much a "gun free" state. You can own guns here, you just can't carry them.
This is interesting. I live near DeKalb and my wife works there. This morning on a local news broadcast (out of Rockford) a federal agent confirmed two of the four guns were purchased legally and picked up on February 9th. Illinois having a 5 day waiting period, that means he purchased them no later than February 4th. As to the other two pistols (one of the two guns already mentioned was a Remington 870 pump shotgun), they had no information at the time but were still investigating. Yes, Illinois requires a FOID (Firearm Owner ID) card issued by the state for any and all firearm/ammunition purchases.
In addition, the news conference brought up the gunman was on ‘medication’ although they would not speculate as to what medication, and that they had evidence he’d been off these meds for a couple weeks and was acting erratically. That couple week timeframe would coincide with the gun purchase.
The four guns were: 1) Remington 870; 2) Glock 9mm; 3) Sig Saur 9mm; 4) Other 380 semi-auto (not defined).
I don’t care-
When they come to expand my freedoms and take my guns “for the collective good,” in some bold living document interpretation of what the Constitution means, I’ll say they were stolen or lost. Screw it, maybe it’s time to move to some other place where a bunch of pole smoking, tree hugging, atheist, pinko, bedwetters, DON’T run the show.
Correct. Firearm Owner's Identification card, or FOID. The state issues these after a standard background check. You can't even handle a gun in a store or buy ammunition without one.
Of course nobody grabbed a gun and pointed it at anyone for sport. We had common sense back then.
My question is, what makes society so different that you are allowed to do this sort of thing as long as you can claim you are off your medication or crazy? There is always an excuse for this behavior. We had mentally ill people back then, but this sort of thing did not happen when guns were readily available to everyone.
The only answer can be that everyone having guns was a deterent.
To me the story is that the gunman was yet another apparent psychiatric patient that went off his meds.
Of course you can. You just can't carry them concealed and/or loaded. They must be unloaded and in a proper carrying case. How else would hunters hunt?
But I'm sure you were referring to concealed carry. It's sad the state doesn't allow this. The wife and I agreed this a.m. that had one or more of the students/instructors been allowed to 'carry', the carnage may well have been far less.
BTW, one of my wife's employees is a teacher associate at NIU, and a friend of the instructor of the class. She related to my wife last night that the gunman chased her friend off the stage and shot him in the arm. He's going to be alright.
Stupid=not able to learn
Not able to learn=stupid
Stupid people cannot learn
I was wondering about this this morning while listening to the NIU news conference. We hear a lot about how these 'crazies' are off some medication or another. What I wondered was, is it the fact they've gone off the medication allowing them to return to their pre-medicated state, or that the drugs alter their mental state to such a degree that when removed they no longer have the cognitive skills necessary to function?
I guess the GUN FREE ZONE didn’t stop him? sac/
Interesting. About that same year, 1965, we would all bring our firearms to our school and store them in our jacket/book lockers during class day then haul them to firearms training at the school after classes.
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