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Kosovo Declares Independence From Serbia
The Washington Post ^ | Sunday, February 17, 2008 | By NEBI QENA and WILLIAM J. KOLE

Posted on 02/17/2008 8:55:18 AM PST by Regulator

PRISTINA, Kosovo -- Kosovo's parliament declared the territory a nation on Sunday, mounting a historic bid to become an "independent and democratic state" backed by the U.S. and European allies but bitterly contested by Serbia and Russia.....

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antichristian; aztlan; clintonlegacy; dhimmwit; illegalimmigrants; islam; islamofascism; jihad; jihadistpersecution; kosovo; landgrab; serbia; serbianbullying; serbianoppression; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongwar
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The Muslim takeover of a country in Europe, backed by us, is now complete.

For awhile, anyway.

1 posted on 02/17/2008 8:55:19 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator

I suspect Russia will have something to say on the topic before the week is over.


2 posted on 02/17/2008 8:57:25 AM PST by jeddavis
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To: joan; LjubivojeRadosavljevic; Barnsleys Beck; Banat; FormerLib; dennisw; flaglady47; ...

I just know hearing this will make your day.

:-)


3 posted on 02/17/2008 9:05:11 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Regulator

I have come to believe that this type of activity is no mistaken or wrong headed rather is is a deliberate act against the best interests of the west. And dare I say Russia?


4 posted on 02/17/2008 9:05:54 AM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: jeddavis
And we should care what the nuclear armers of Iran say or want about anything, why exactly?

Putin can pound sand.

5 posted on 02/17/2008 9:06:07 AM PST by JasonC
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To: jeddavis
A rather large part of me wishes that maybe Russia would do a little more than talk.

It's sickening to see that British troops are being called up to defend this terrorist foothold in the new Caliphate.

6 posted on 02/17/2008 9:06:17 AM PST by Regulator (And What Will America Look Like Under Chief Obama? Zimbabwe)
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To: Nuc1

no=not sigh.


7 posted on 02/17/2008 9:06:48 AM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Regulator

Man up, Putin. Send in the troops. Do the right thing.


8 posted on 02/17/2008 9:08:41 AM PST by isrul
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To: Regulator

Dark clouds on the horizon.


9 posted on 02/17/2008 9:09:29 AM PST by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: isrul
Man up, Putin. Send in the troops. Do the right thing.

I agree.

10 posted on 02/17/2008 9:30:24 AM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: Regulator

Pray for the Serbs of Kosovo. They’ll need it.


11 posted on 02/17/2008 9:32:33 AM PST by Heatseeker (To err is human, but to really screw up it takes the Berkeley City Council)
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To: Regulator

Sometimes I just shake my head at the USA foreign policy.


12 posted on 02/17/2008 9:34:57 AM PST by spyone
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To: Regulator
Related thread:

Albanian Triumph, Serb Anger as Kosovo Secedes

13 posted on 02/17/2008 9:35:16 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: jeddavis

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080217/ap_on_re_eu/russia_kosovo


14 posted on 02/17/2008 9:36:36 AM PST by gitmogrunt (Here comes the Russian Bear.....)
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To: Regulator
Albanians and Serbs in Kosovo: An Abbreviated History
An Opening for the The Islamic Jihad in Europe

15 posted on 02/17/2008 9:40:52 AM PST by palmer
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To: spyone
Sometimes I just shake my head at the USA foreign policy

We're seeing the remnant effects of Clinton globalism and anti-Westernism.

At the time it happened I did not understand that Albania was essentially Ottoman. I knew that Albania had a fair number of Muslims, but they did in fact look "secular". That probably had more to do with Communism and even Turkish secularism, so it probably won't last long. The Burkhas will be mandatory soon, and the Christians should just draw a little line on their necks where the axe will hit. I'm sure Thaci has lots of plans to avenge Srebrenitsa.

16 posted on 02/17/2008 9:47:08 AM PST by Regulator (And What Will America Look Like Under Chief Obama? Zimbabwe)
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To: isrul

I never thought I’d be cheering for Putin. What a crazy world we live in.


17 posted on 02/17/2008 9:52:23 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: Regulator
I have carefully copied these figures via Wikipedia.

A study by Austro/Hungarian Peter Kukulj,of Kosovo, showed in 1871.
64% Serbs. 32% Albanians with 10,000 Roma.

Further Austrian statistics in 1899.
47.80% Albanians. 43.7% Serbs. 8% others.

Today figures of the Serb population in Kosovo, are between only 7% and at most 10%.

The United Nations is useless. If it's moguls cannot see ethnic cleansing, then it is as useless as the old League of Nations. Time for it to go.

18 posted on 02/17/2008 9:53:15 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: canuck_conservative

The story is not over yet, Dhimmi.


19 posted on 02/17/2008 9:54:07 AM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
It sure is. How crazy can it get? I’m not sure I want to see.No. I need to see.
20 posted on 02/17/2008 9:54:40 AM PST by isrul
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To: spyone

Wait ‘till that “foreign policy” gets applied to Aztlan.


21 posted on 02/17/2008 10:03:37 AM PST by norton ( There is no longer any choice)
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To: norton
Wait ‘till that “foreign policy” gets applied to Aztlan

That's the plan.

22 posted on 02/17/2008 10:05:27 AM PST by Regulator (And What Will America Look Like Under Chief Obama? Zimbabwe)
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To: FormerLib
The story is not over yet, Dhimmi.

Yup, the Serbs haven't started their ethnic killings yet.

But based on recent history, it probably won't be long coming.


23 posted on 02/17/2008 10:07:04 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative
put this on, it will make your life more comfortable


24 posted on 02/17/2008 10:07:08 AM PST by DTA (Advice to Condi: when you are in a hole, stop digging)
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To: canuck_conservative
It will never be a fully legal country with Russian opposition and is a violation of international law.

As you can see most all conservatives on Free Republic do not support the terroristic mafia land grab of the ethnic Albanians.

Nor are those on Free Republic fans of the ethnic Albanians who are notorious for their drug smuggling, human trafficking, theft and violence all over Europe.

P.S. I notice on your page you are a fan of the Apollo mission. Bet you didn't know that Serbian engineers were involved in that program and I doubt there were any ethnic Albanians at all.


"Standing in front of Apollo 11 are some of the Serbian scientists who participated in the success of this program. From left to right: Slavoljub Vujic, production coordinator, Petar Gajic, engineer, Danilo Bojic, engineer who redesigned the escape hatch after the Apollo disaster, Milojko Vucelic, recepient of the Freedom Award for his work on Apollo, Milisav Surbatovic, chief engineer on Apollo who served in the Royal Serbian Air Force, Petar Galovic, engineer and David Vuich, director of public relations, North American Aviation that became Rockwell International."

25 posted on 02/17/2008 10:09:32 AM PST by joan
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To: joan
P.S. I notice on your page you are a fan of the Apollo mission. Bet you didn't know that Serbian engineers were involved in that program and I doubt there were any ethnic Albanians at all.

How is that in any possible way relevant to this political discussion??

You always lose me when you go off on another one of those non-sensical tangents.
26 posted on 02/17/2008 10:12:43 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: spyone
Sometimes I just shake my head at the USA foreign policy

Clinton foreign policy that Bush somehow neglected to reverse. Maybe it was just too late. Maybe he had some other reason. Time may tell but in any case a huge mistake.

27 posted on 02/17/2008 10:17:03 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: canuck_conservative
It is relevant to the type of people the Serbs are beyond the war propaganda which is distortion and lie.

By supporting the ethnic Albanians and their ways you are supporting a people opposite to those you admire, including those who wrote America's Declaration of Independence.

The Albanians have shown no justice, honesty or even the most basic rights for non-Albanians. Albania and how it is run not a country to be admired or imitated. You essentially support another country just like that. What good does it do for human kind?

The Serbs gave the U.S. Nikola Tesla and many fine engineers who have patents on such things as IBM supercomputers.

By supporting destruction of the Serbs and expansion of thieving, drug running, relatively unaccomplished people you support primitivism and nothing to do with what you admire in the U.S.

28 posted on 02/17/2008 10:18:29 AM PST by joan
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To: joan
It will never be a fully legal country with Russian opposition and is a violation of international law.

Not much of a comfort, but CBC News World (Canada) had the usual bright breezy young woman describing the "new flag" of Kosovo. Showing the scenes there. One is reminded of the "ethnic cleansing" brigade on CBC television during the Nato crimes. Then a voice went to the Conservative government and it's position. They are waffling fast. The minority government which could easily brought down in a parliamentary vote, does not want to touch this one.

As of now, the betting is that frantic "experts" are being called in. This before a grand official statement on the Canadian position.

The threat of a sleeping separatist movement in Quebec is what scares 'em. Billions paid to buy Quebec off (IMHO). One can imagine our government saying.

Oh no, not again!

29 posted on 02/17/2008 10:20:19 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: Regulator
A rather large part of me wishes that maybe Russia would do a little more than talk.

It sickens me to have to agree with Putin, but I wish he would send troops in. Then again, the time to have done so was when Yeltsin was in power and Clinton and Wes Clark were conducting their immoral war against Serbia.

30 posted on 02/17/2008 10:21:52 AM PST by montag813
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To: joan
The Albanians have shown no justice, honesty or even the most basic rights for non-Albanians.

Wrong. The Kosovo Parliament has already said it will protect the rights of the Serbian minority.

Enough of the fear-mongering already.
31 posted on 02/17/2008 10:22:06 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Regulator

So the Kurds have no state. The “Palestinians” have no state (thank goodness). But the Albanians get TWO states??? Shocking that the United States would put its imprimatur on such utter madness.


32 posted on 02/17/2008 10:23:16 AM PST by montag813
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To: Peter Libra
The UN will do everything to tighten Muslim control in Southeastern Europe. It is now not just a Communist institution, but a Third World Communist institution. Anything they can do to hurt Europe and America they will do.

Their politics are the politics of grievance. And to them, not allowing the troglodyte Muslims to take over major parts of the Earth and subjugate the inhabitants is an aggrievance.

The UN building in NY should be demolished for urban renewal and the petty thugs who inhabit it should be run out of town but only after they pay their parking tickets. Or else jail the SOB's.

33 posted on 02/17/2008 10:24:03 AM PST by Regulator (And What Will America Look Like Under Chief Obama? Zimbabwe)
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To: Peter Libra

Separatism is effectively dead in Quebec.

It peaked in the late70s/early 80s; the new generation genuinely wants to be part of Canada.


34 posted on 02/17/2008 10:25:15 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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The threat of a sleeping separatist movement in Quebec is what scares 'em. Billions paid to buy Quebec off (IMHO). One can imagine our government saying.

I'd forgotten about Quebec. And are the metis still around?? Plus, lst's remember The Kurds, The South Ossetians, the Basques, the Bretons and the Muslim minorities in China's far west, to name but a few.

35 posted on 02/17/2008 10:25:18 AM PST by E. Cartman (Huckaboob will never be Vice President.)
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To: canuck_conservative

There’s a big difference between saying something and implementing it. They have done their lip-service before and then went on the bomb more Serb monasteries.


36 posted on 02/17/2008 10:25:52 AM PST by joan
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To: canuck_conservative
Wrong. The Kosovo Parliament has already said it will protect the rights of the Serbian minority.

Excellent point. And we know that assertion's almost as truthful as McCain's that he really is a conservative.

37 posted on 02/17/2008 10:26:56 AM PST by E. Cartman (Huckaboob will never be Vice President.)
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But the Albanians get TWO states??? Shocking that the United States would put its imprimatur on such utter madness

Good point. So if Greater Albania keeps expanding north due to its population pressure, will the U.S. and Britain demand that the locals throw up their arms, surrender to Islam, knock down all the churches and build Mosques?

Gee, let's see....there's another country near here with a population problem, that keeps pushing their people North, into land they claim....I wonder...no, couldn't be, could it?

Oh yes it could.

38 posted on 02/17/2008 10:27:52 AM PST by Regulator (And What Will America Look Like Under Chief Obama? Zimbabwe)
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There’s a big difference between saying something and implementing it.

You mean like when Serbia said it was serious about going after its war criminals from the 90s wars, and then turns around and gives them shelter?

Yes, I agree, there's a big difference.


39 posted on 02/17/2008 10:29:12 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: E. Cartman
The Kosovo Parliament has already said it will protect the rights of the Serbian minority

Oh no, I believe them!

The right to kneel before the Muslim Caliph and beg for mercy, the right to pay Jizya, the right to convert or be killed.

Call it the Muslim Bill of Rights for the Damnable Dhimmis!

40 posted on 02/17/2008 10:30:46 AM PST by Regulator (And What Will America Look Like Under Chief Obama? Zimbabwe)
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I know how and why clinton got us on the wrong side of this tragedy, what I don’t understand is why President Bush stayed there.


41 posted on 02/17/2008 10:45:27 AM PST by Eagles6
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To: Heatseeker
Pray for the Serbs of Kosovo. They’ll need it.

The only ones the Serbs have to fear is us. They could handle the muslim wetbacks if they were left to do so.

I hope Russia undermines this crime.

I have been hearing pleasant sounding news reports all day as though a persecuted country won it's hard fought for freedoms instead of another instance of muslim trash assaulting the west.

Regards

42 posted on 02/17/2008 10:51:37 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Remember this from a few years back? http://www.break.com/index/kosovo.html


43 posted on 02/17/2008 10:52:17 AM PST by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: Regulator

—A rather large part of me wishes that maybe Russia would do a little more than talk.—

Megadittos big time on this, my friend. If the Russians are feeling their oats militarily, now is the time for them to step up. Actually, they should have stepped up earlier back when Clinton/Blair began their unprovked war of aggression against Yugoslavia back in 1999. Introduction of Russian paratroopers to the Pristina airport was a good move, but too late. Introduction of a squadron or 2 of MiG-29s would have prevented the savage NATO bombing campaign before it ever got off the ground (pun intended). NATO behaved like a typical schoolyard bully, picking on weak Serbia, but was no doubt terrified of the Russian colossus, just as it was even more terrified of the Soviet colossus of years past.


44 posted on 02/17/2008 11:03:18 AM PST by paleorite
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To: Eagles6
what I don’t understand is why President Bush stayed there

Bush has repeatedly made clear that he thinks there is no threat in Muslim hegemony. He went to Turkey prior to the last round of EU admission talks and declared that "I don't believe in this clash of civilizations stuff". I watched him say it on TV in France; in Europe, people were shocked.

If there is any political calculation here, it is appeasement of the Sauds, and an effort to get them to agree to the legitimacy of Israel.

The two situations are not congruent, but you get the notion.

Bush has no problem with Islamic states. He just established one in Iraq. I think he actually believes they can be moderate and modern; maybe he thinks a Muslim Unitarianism will eventually come to pass. Outwardly, Attaturk Turkey looked like that, but the truth is that it is re-Muslimizing quickly and the secular protections will evaporate.

There's no such thing as a moderate Muslim. It's a belief system that does not tolerate that, and always leads to fanaticism. As such, it is a vehicle for political domination, which is what it was started for.

Thus it cannot ever be tolerated in the West.

As a poster on another thread said to me, "Islam is a political system in religious drag".

45 posted on 02/17/2008 11:04:37 AM PST by Regulator (And What Will America Look Like Under Chief Obama? Zimbabwe)
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—Wrong. The Kosovo Parliament has already said it will protect the rights of the Serbian minority.—

If you believe anything those Muzzies have to say, I’ve got some oceanfront property in Manitoba I’ll sell you really cheap! Seriously, Kosovo is the wellspring of the Serbian people; the Albanians are basically johnny-come-lately squatters introduced there by the Turkish invader. For the Serbs to lose Kosovo is like Israeli Jews giving up Jerusalem to Hamas, or Texans giving the Alamo back to Mexico.


46 posted on 02/17/2008 11:06:19 AM PST by paleorite
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To: canuck_conservative
Some lies don't become true no many how often you repeat them.

It wasn't the Serbs who made Kosovo Judenfrei, Dhimmi.

47 posted on 02/17/2008 11:06:43 AM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: canuck_conservative
The Kosovo Parliament has already said it will protect the rights of the Serbian minority.

LOL!

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Yeah, and the Jihadist are the Religion of Peace!

LOL!

48 posted on 02/17/2008 11:08:07 AM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: E. Cartman
I'd forgotten about Quebec. And are the metis still around??

My opinion here only, in an answer. From what I observe, the Metis trying very hard to sort out any problems within their people. To digress- for a chuckle, we had the Department of Fisheries charge two men locally. They had fished over the limit. They claimed Metis status. One was a 64th Metis and the other 128th Metis. They won.

It is the "First Nations" status for the Indian (no,no word) population that has caused some problems. In Southern Ontario, a whole nice little town-Caledonia, has been under siege for over a year. Land claims. Police stand by, haunted by an inquiry, over a man shot by police over 15 years ago, during native violence against military property. Citizens assaulted, bridge burned and power station vandalized.

A third of tobacco taxes lost to the government by smuggling cigarettes on to "First Nations" land. (By New York State). What a carry on! (wry chuckle).

49 posted on 02/17/2008 11:08:36 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: isrul
Man up, Putin. Send in the troops. Do the right thing.

Send in the Russian troops to do what? Fight NATO and kill Americans?

50 posted on 02/17/2008 11:08:37 AM PST by HAL9000
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