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Kosovo Declares Independence From Serbia
The Washington Post ^ | Sunday, February 17, 2008 | By NEBI QENA and WILLIAM J. KOLE

Posted on 02/17/2008 8:55:18 AM PST by Regulator

PRISTINA, Kosovo -- Kosovo's parliament declared the territory a nation on Sunday, mounting a historic bid to become an "independent and democratic state" backed by the U.S. and European allies but bitterly contested by Serbia and Russia.....

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antichristian; aztlan; clintonlegacy; dhimmwit; illegalimmigrants; islam; islamofascism; jihad; jihadistpersecution; kosovo; landgrab; serbia; serbianbullying; serbianoppression; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongwar
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To: Serb29

And where did the Germans get the name?


81 posted on 02/17/2008 12:28:50 PM PST by Skenderbej
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To: canuck_conservative

Explain how your precious Muslims rid Kosovo of its Jewish Problem, that’s the reality you can’t spin your way out of.

The Jihadist have been more brutal against the Serbs, Jews, and Roma in reality than anything that can be match in your anti-Serb fictions.


82 posted on 02/17/2008 12:29:24 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: paleorite
Germans take note
83 posted on 02/17/2008 12:30:38 PM PST by Bogie
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To: HAL9000

Just because I think we are being run by morons doesn’t make me guilty of anything. I’m not rooting for “Russia vs. US”, I’m rooting for “common sense vs. US”.

“The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.” -John Adams


84 posted on 02/17/2008 12:32:11 PM PST by Serb29 ("Fear can only prevail when victims are ignorant of the facts ". - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: montag813
But the Albanians get TWO states???

Make no mistake. The Albanians in Kosovo see themselves as the eventual leaders of a united "Greater Albania." The vast majority of people in Albania itself want no part of that, as Albania is mostly secular today, thanks to the 40+ years of Stalinist rule, under Hoxha.

Whereas, in Kosovo under Tito, Islam was still allowed to flourish somewhat.

So ultimately what we may very well be seeing with an independent Kosovo, is a civil war in Albania, itself in the future.

85 posted on 02/17/2008 12:32:20 PM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: Serb29
Oh, you will. It should go something like this.

I suppose, wasn't too worried about it in the immediate future, but your link is certainly something to keep on the radar.

Some powers seem to want this. My question is if they are going to be independent, why not repatriate them? The powers (don't know who is behind all this ethnic diversity) don't seem to encourage that either.

I try to be open-minded about ethnicities and getting along, but it isn't rocket science to see that a country with so many conflicting interests can't last very long, Obama's message of hope notwithstanding.

It's little things that have a way of building up to bigger things. I remember at work a Jewish lawyer complaining about the smells of oriental cooking in her apartment :-). Sounds minor enough, but things have a way of building up.

Let's be brutally honest here. Americans have never been very homogenous, let's-all-get-along, even among European immigrants. There have always been ethnic clashes rooted in ethnicity, that simmers just below the surface to this very day. And it can get serious. I'm in an area predominately settled by Germans. During WWII, I'm told that you had better not be heard speaking German on the streets. Just a for instance.

And to this day, there are southerners who really don't like us Yankees, although they tolerate us. I'm sure it's a carryover from the civil war.

86 posted on 02/17/2008 12:32:23 PM PST by Aliska
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To: HAL9000

No one is saying anything of the sort.

We want the Russians to protect the Serb civilians, something that the NATO commanders have steadfastly refused to do.

We do not want a single drop of American blood to be shed supporting a land grab by a a pack of illegal immigrants!


87 posted on 02/17/2008 12:33:24 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Skenderbej

I know your point. You missed mine. I wouldn’t use a name of a Nazi division in an American forum, named after George Kastrioti Skanderbeg or not. His name went to hell the day your ancestors decided to tie it to Nazism.


88 posted on 02/17/2008 12:36:37 PM PST by Serb29 ("Fear can only prevail when victims are ignorant of the facts ". - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: paleorite

Don’t worry. HAL9000 and Canuck are the only idiots on a thread of 20+ Freepers. How long before the USA is forced to cede to AZTLAN?


89 posted on 02/17/2008 12:38:46 PM PST by ohioman
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To: Regulator
Thanks for posting an intelligible reply! Most of the time that doesn’t happen on here. The only problem I have with the genetics is that the areas on the link you posted cover such broad areas. If we go back far enough, the Albanians and the Slavs are direct relatives coming from the Indo-European line. I find it funny that all these groups were once brothers, yet today they hate each other!

The point I was trying to make is that linguistically based on the toponyms, the Slavs cannot lay claim to Kosovo and the surrounding areas until the 7th century AD (okay, really around 550 AD). I’m no expert on the genetics, just the language. The real problem is that we have insufficient historical records to make absolute claims. The history of that area is almost all speculative.

90 posted on 02/17/2008 12:39:57 PM PST by Skenderbej
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To: FormerLib

Our policy toward Serbia and Kosovo is open for debate, but some of the comments here are implicitly advocating a Russian invasion of Kosovo where our troops are deployed. They are flirting with treason.


91 posted on 02/17/2008 12:41:50 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: Serb29

I’m not Albanian, if that is what you are implying. I’m Danish American. In the pursuit of nationalism, many omit the facts. Gjergj Kastriot was a Catholic Albanian who fought against the Ottoman invasion in the 1400’s for nearly 40 years before he died. He was from a royal Albanian family, taken by the Turks in his youth and trained in the Turkish military; hence the title “Iskander, Skenderbej”.

He returned to Albania and used the Turkish tactics against them. He is recognized as a man who helped slow and weaken the Turks on their march toward Western Europe. As Americans, we should be grateful the Turks were stopped in the Balkans with the help of the Albanians.

Given Skenderbej’s fight against the Ottomans and Islam, my screen name is more than appropriate in an American conservative forum.


92 posted on 02/17/2008 12:48:26 PM PST by Skenderbej
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To: HAL9000

Ask any of the authors if they advocate Russian troops opening fire on Americans. Not one of them will.


93 posted on 02/17/2008 12:50:09 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: ohioman
HAL9000 and Canuck are the only idiots on a thread of 20+ Freepers.

I'm saying that Putin should not order a Russian military invasion against U.S. troop positions in Kosovo, and you think that makes me an idiot?

How long before the USA is forced to cede to AZTLAN?

Right after we surrender to Russia, if we do things your way.

94 posted on 02/17/2008 12:57:33 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: paleorite; canuck_conservative
Ok, if a bunch of bums and lowlifes decide to set up camp in your backyard, I guess that makes YOU the bully if you and your friends decide to run them off. Talk about fuzzy logic.

Can we then assume, canuck_conservative, that you'd happily welcome illegal alien squatters to your part of the great white north????

If "yes," please submit your address and easiest directions for getting there to Presidente Felipe Calderon.

95 posted on 02/17/2008 12:57:44 PM PST by E. Cartman (Huckaboob will never be Vice President.)
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To: Skenderbej
As Americans, we should be grateful the Turks were stopped in the Balkans with the help of the Albanians.

And as Americans, we should be ashamed that we have helped Albanian Jihadists carry the Turk cause back into the Balkans.

96 posted on 02/17/2008 12:58:20 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: HAL9000
I'll support the ones defending Western Civilization and Judaeo-Christianity, and if that means The Russians, then so be it.
97 posted on 02/17/2008 12:59:43 PM PST by E. Cartman (Huckaboob will never be Vice President.)
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To: HAL9000
I don't think Putin is stupid enough to order a Russian invasion where U.S. troops are deployed, but if you support him in doing that, you are effectively adhering to the Enemy, giving them Aid and Comfort.

No, that's only if congress has issued a declaration of war. If the RINO in The Oval Office didn't even ask for that when we invaded Iraq, why in the world would congress issue one for this little fracas in Kosovo?

98 posted on 02/17/2008 1:02:19 PM PST by E. Cartman (Huckaboob will never be Vice President.)
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To: HAL9000

You’re an idiot if you support an independent Muslim Kosovo. Tell me you don’t support an indy Kosovo and I’ll gladly apologize.


99 posted on 02/17/2008 1:02:55 PM PST by ohioman
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To: HAL9000
They are flirting with treason.

It's only treason if there's a declaration of war...and can you imagine the hornets nest that would be unleashed if the administration were stupid enough to try prosecuting someone for opposing their support of Islamofascist jihadis?

100 posted on 02/17/2008 1:05:27 PM PST by E. Cartman (Huckaboob will never be Vice President.)
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