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Heads UP: Rare visable double spaceship flybys, Atlantis/Space Station on Monday evening
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Posted on 02/17/2008 7:07:25 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares

Space Weather News for Feb. 17, 2008 http://spaceweather.com

DOUBLE FLYBY: If all goes according to plan, space shuttle Atlantis will undock from the International Space Station (ISS) on Monday morning, Feb. 18th, at approximately 4:30 am EST. This is good news for sky watchers across North America who will be able to witness a rare double flyby on Monday evening. Atlantis and the ISS will appear as a tight pair of lights, as bright as Jupiter or Venus, gliding in tandem across the twilight sky--an unforgettable sight. Favored cities include Los Angeles, New Orleans, Dallas, Jackson (MS), Pensacola, Philadelphia, Reno, San Diego and others. Double flybys continue on Tuesday, Feb 19th, albeit not as tight because the shuttle will be moving away from the ISS as it prepares to land on Wednesday, Feb. 20th.

You can receive telephone and email alerts when the spacecraft are about to fly over your backyard by subscribing to Spaceweather PHONE (http://spaceweatherphone.com) or look for flyby timetables at Heavens Above (http://heavens-above.com). And should you miss the event, visit http://spaceweather.com for images and movies.


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1 posted on 02/17/2008 7:07:28 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

FR bookmark , .. .. ((”down to the beach!”))


2 posted on 02/17/2008 7:16:42 PM PST by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

We saw the ISS go by on Saturday night, and it was just awesome! The sky was absolutely clear, and we got a full five minutes unobstructed view of it. I don’t know if we’ll be able to see both on Monday night, because it’s supposed to be cloudy, dang it!


3 posted on 02/17/2008 7:21:06 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: aflaak

piing


4 posted on 02/17/2008 7:22:22 PM PST by r-q-tek86 (If your not taking flak, your not over the target.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
In the summer of 2005, a friend and I were out late night fishing on Richland-Chambers Lake in Central Texas. This was just after the shuttle Discovery had separated from the space station on a mission STS-114. It was the first one after the Columbia loss. Both Discovery and the ISS were very visible in the sky that night. It was a wonder to watch them until they disappeared when they went out of sunlight and into the earth's shadow.

A little later, I looked up and saw another object above. It was not as bright as the shuttle or ISS. It looked for all purposes as a satellite in orbit. However, instead of a steady, straight trajectory as all the satellites I'd seen before in orbit, this one was juking all about moving in a rough northeast to southwest direction.

I told my friend to look up and he saw it, too. The UFO continued to juke around on a zigzag path as it travel across the sky for several minutes before it too disappeared as it went into Earth's shadow.

To this day, I wonder what it was I and my friend saw up there. It was not like anything else I've ever seen in the nighttime sky.

I can recall as a child watching Sputnik (actually it was the satellite's trailing booster rocket also in orbit) in the Fall of 1957. That bright pinpoint of white light marching across the sky in a steady, straight line is seared forever in my memory. Yet over the next 50 years, I have seen many other space payloads, but never another like that juking one of Summer, 2005.

Over the years I've thought often about what the devil the dang thing was and why was it doing that jitterbug dance?

My best guess was it was a military payload doing that juke dance as avoidance to any possible hunter/killer satellite, but that is not something I have ever been able to find in any articles about space warfare.

I cannot believe what I saw was an alien spacecraft chucked full of little green, gray or polka dot guys and/or gals here to steal our secrets, babies, ice, water, molybdenum, supermodels or our only working copy of the Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator. It was not a scout for an invasion or a first cook sample tasting us before writing To Serve Man in his native tongue.

In truth, I do believe there is intelligent life out there in the universe. All those uncountable billions and billions and billions of galaxies and their googol (a 1 followed by 100 zeros) plus number of stars cannot help but over the billions of years since the Big Bang to produce several, if not, millions or billions of different intelligent lifeforms.

In my belief, they do not sit up nights worrying about us. I don't believe they are constantly coming here to watch us, but it would not be a life changing event for me if they showed up one day before I pass away.

Matter of fact... where are you guys? I want to know what that was I saw back in 2005 and I ain't getting any younger!!!

5 posted on 02/17/2008 7:23:57 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I’m staying awake for that.


6 posted on 02/17/2008 7:25:13 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: All

I think I saw the ISS pass overhead when I lived in NY. I was in the schoolyard of my old elementary school, on my roller blades. I looked up, and I saw this blue dot moving on the sky.

It was pretty cool.


7 posted on 02/17/2008 7:26:51 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: Bender2

You may have seen a trash unit being ejected from the ISS (they fall and burn up in the atmosphere, but can move around quite a bit)...or perhaps one of the electrical experiments where the long “canvas” was eventually cut loose.


8 posted on 02/17/2008 7:31:02 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Re: You may have seen a trash unit being ejected from the ISS (they fall and burn up in the atmosphere, but can move around quite a bit)...or perhaps one of the electrical experiments where the long “canvas” was eventually cut loose.

Nope, the orbit of the 'whatever' was nowhere near the Shuttle or ISS. It was a single point of light doing a jitterbug moving in a rough northeast to southwest direction that would bisect the Shuttle and ISS orbits, not parallel them.

9 posted on 02/17/2008 7:45:02 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Also here:

http://spaceflight1.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/cities/skywatch.cgi?country=United+States


10 posted on 02/17/2008 7:48:28 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Thanks for the heads-up - partly cloudy here tomorrow, but the last time we looked for a satellite, we had a break, 80% cloud cover, but a clear track for the ship.


11 posted on 02/17/2008 7:51:12 PM PST by heartwood
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I once observed two space shuttles flying simultaneously. THAT was cool.


12 posted on 02/17/2008 7:52:10 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Bender2
During the Summer of 72 give or take a year or so, I was lying on a blanket with a girl looking at the stars. (Yes that is all we were doing).

I happened to see a satellite about as bright as a normal star, going across the heavens. I too noticed it seemed to be zig zagging. After watching it for maybe a minute, I realized it acutally wasn't doing the zig zag, it was an optical illusion.

13 posted on 02/17/2008 7:55:13 PM PST by yarddog (`)
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To: RFEngineer

that sounds like a trick statement.

Assuming one was on the back of a 747?


14 posted on 02/17/2008 7:55:35 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

“Assuming one was on the back of a 747?”

Yep....I had gotten up early - right before sunrise to watch one in orbit come by.....lo and behold, I’m tracking it and the 747 w/piggyback flew right over at that very moment.


15 posted on 02/17/2008 7:57:49 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Thanks for posting. BTTT!


16 posted on 02/17/2008 8:01:04 PM PST by PGalt
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To: yarddog
During the Summer of 72 give or take a year or so, I was lying on a blanket with a girl looking at the stars.

Once upon a time
A girl with moonlight in her eyes
Put her hand in mine,
And said she loved me so...
But that was once upon a time...
Very long ago

Once upon a hill
We sat beneath a willow tree
Counting all the stars
And waiting for the dawn
But that was once upon a time,
Now the tree is gone


How the breeze ruffled through her hair
How we always laughed
As though tomorrow wasn't there...
We were young
And didn't have a care
Where did it go?


Once upon a time
the world was sweeter than we knew
Everything was ours
How happy we were then
But somehow once upon a time
Never comes again....

Bobby Darin: Once Upon a Time

17 posted on 02/17/2008 8:03:37 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Bender2

Incredible! I saw the same thing in ‘05 and always wondered what it was. I remember back in 1969, my brother and I were camping on the Mt. Whitney Trail (in the High Sierra of California) and from our tents saw a slow moving light in the night sky, as big and bright as the full moon. My brother thought it was like a scene from “Invaders from Mars” but two days later when we made it down the mountain to the town of Lone Pine, we found out that it was a Russian satellite reentering orbit.


18 posted on 02/17/2008 8:04:04 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Inyo-Mono
Maybe some day... we'll both know.

BTW if I recall correctly, Lone Pine is one place other than the Four Corners area John Ford did a lot of shooting for his western films? If so, it is some wonderful countryside to admire.

19 posted on 02/17/2008 8:08:49 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: hole_n_one

I loved that song so very much, but by Tony Bennett. It was the flip side of “I Left My Heart In San Francisco”. I always liked “Once Upon A Time better”.


20 posted on 02/17/2008 8:19:09 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: yarddog
Re: During the Summer of 72 give or take a year or so, I was lying on a blanket with a girl looking at the stars. (Yes that is all we were doing).

I happened to see a satellite about as bright as a normal star, going across the heavens. I too noticed it seemed to be zig zagging. After watching it for maybe a minute, I realized it acutally wasn't doing the zig zag, it was an optical illusion.

Well, my friend in 2005 was male and we are both very heterosexual and I find it hard to believe "that is all we were doing" in the late 60s to early 70s days of Free Love.

So all I can say is you appear to possibly have been a victim of a semif**king hallucination while wanting to do a full blown "luv zig zag" with your female blanket mate!

Of course, I could be mistaken... as I've been drinking and wenching all weekend!

21 posted on 02/17/2008 8:21:37 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Names Ash Housewares; neverdem

ping


22 posted on 02/17/2008 8:21:58 PM PST by sweetiepiezer
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To: sweetiepiezer

thanks, bfl


23 posted on 02/17/2008 8:32:26 PM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


24 posted on 02/17/2008 8:41:07 PM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Bender2

It is a well-known optical illusion that occurs with satellites that change their reflectance because they are tumbling. As they flicker in brightness, they appear to be moving in a zig-zag or jerky motion.


25 posted on 02/17/2008 8:45:45 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood
Re: It is a well-known optical illusion that occurs with satellites that change their reflectance because they are tumbling. As they flicker in brightness, they appear to be moving in a zig-zag or jerky motion.

That may be it, but the point of light I saw was not flickering at all. It was a strong, steady point of light doing a jitterbug while moving in a rough northeast to southwest orbit.

26 posted on 02/17/2008 8:49:47 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2
BTW if I recall correctly, Lone Pine is one place other than the Four Corners area John Ford did a lot of shooting for his western films? If so, it is some wonderful countryside to admire.

Yes it was. And John Wayne made a number of films there. See my profile.

27 posted on 02/17/2008 9:02:31 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: rockinqsranch
I thought Bennett owned this song until I heard Darin's version.......

Another version by Darin (LP)..........

Once Upon a Time

28 posted on 02/17/2008 9:16:06 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Bender2

The illusion can also be seen even if the light is not flickering, but flickering tends to intensify it. It is a very intense illusion when the visual field is mostly empty as in the case of the night sky. The illsuion is based on the microsaccadic motion of your eyes as they try to intensely fixate a small target. The microsaccades are due to normal physiological motor activity of the extraocular muscles.


29 posted on 02/17/2008 9:28:27 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood

Where in the sky will it be?

I am in Rancho Mirage-Palm Springs


30 posted on 02/17/2008 9:47:43 PM PST by NoLibZone (If the Clinton years were so great, why is Osama doing so well?)
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To: Kirkwood
Re: The illsuion is based on the microsaccadic motion of your eyes as they try to intensely fixate a small target. The microsaccades are due to normal physiological motor activity of the extraocular muscles.

Sounds like you are saying I have oculosis!

That is where the optic nerve... gets tangled with the lower colon and gives one a crappy outlook on life!

Might be, Jame T for Timber, but I must go to beddy by as I have to go in for some minor surgery (Minor my A$$ only when it is some else going under the knife!) in the morning.

Ciao!

31 posted on 02/17/2008 9:51:48 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2
Summer in central texas? probably a firefly....

I remember camping out under the starry night in central Texas before the skyglow and haze ruined it. Right before dawn it still seemed like there were a million stars and then one of them started to move - it was a satellite. I still get goosebumps remembering it. That must have been '68 or so.

32 posted on 02/17/2008 10:08:23 PM PST by no-s
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To: Bender2
I saw something a bit similar to what you describe, while I was watching the leonid meteor shower around Thanksgiving of 2001, in northwestern Wisconsin. What I saw was a single point of red light moving slowly, yet erratically along a roughly north-south line. Because it was a single point, I couldn't be sure of distance, speed, or direction of travel. The difference is that my light would reverse course after, oh, ten minutes or so, and travel in the opposite direction. It kept doing this the whole time I was there.

One interesting fact is that, about 100 miles away from where I was, in the direction of this object, is the Navy's ELF radio transmitter near Clam Lake, WI (cue spooky theramin music).

I, too, still sometimes speculate about what that thing was.

33 posted on 02/17/2008 10:16:54 PM PST by Hunton Peck (You can't cheat an honest man, except by voting for liberals to cheat him for you.)
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To: Hunton Peck

Some friends and I saw a similar thing while camping on Mt. Rainier back in the ‘80s. One of us noticed a light moving far up in the night sky, and we all watched it go over, presuming it to be a satellite.

When it was directly above us, however, it made an impossibly sharp right angle turn, then accellerated into the distance.

We just sort of laughed in awe and shrugged our shoulders. What else could you do?


34 posted on 02/17/2008 10:49:30 PM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: Bender2
Years ago (1969)I was cramming for a parasitology final with a classmate at his house. We took a break around 1 AM and went sit outside on his driveway in lawn chairs and were having a smoke. I saw overhead at my 2 a satellite passing R-L, NE-SW; I told Jerry look there is a satellite and he said that he’d seen it. When it got to our 10 it took a RIGHT, accelerated, and disappeared in less than 2 secs; a serious haul ass. I looked at him and asked did you see that and he replied yes. We talked about it for a few more minutes then went back to the books. That was my UFO experience. It was a 90 degree change in direction and acceleration that was simple but mind boggling to m to this day. I was smoking a Winston BTW./p>
35 posted on 02/17/2008 11:05:31 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: JennysCool

see 35


36 posted on 02/17/2008 11:06:11 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: Atchafalaya

Yow! :-)


37 posted on 02/18/2008 12:10:06 AM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: JennysCool
No BS. Right place and time to see what we saw. I was at USL in Lafayette, La. at the time. Never seen anything like that again and I’ve seen a bunch of satellites since; left to right, right to left.
38 posted on 02/18/2008 12:32:19 AM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Just watched the show. Thanks for the heads up.


39 posted on 02/18/2008 1:14:14 AM PST by Ezekiel
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Triple header in Boston tonight.

ISS / Atlantis at 5:45 PM from the west, followed by USA 193 at 6:20 from the southwest.


40 posted on 02/18/2008 6:09:46 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Action is eloquence. - Shakespeare)
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To: Atchafalaya

It’s very unlikely that you saw a satellite at 1:00 AM. Low Earth orbit satellites would be in the earth’s shadow and higher orbits too far away (most likely) and moving too slowly against the background stars to pick up. Probably an aircraft. Or ET.

Best time to view LEO satellites is just after sunset or just before sunrise, when you’re in darkness and they’re high enough to catch the sun.

Also, almost all satellites orbit from west to east, in the same direction as the earth rotates. Taking advantage of the earth’s rotation saves fuel. NE/SW would be a retrograde orbit. Very rare, I know of no examples.


41 posted on 02/18/2008 6:18:19 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Action is eloquence. - Shakespeare)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

“If It Ever Stops Snowing & The Sky Clears” Bump!


42 posted on 02/18/2008 6:21:17 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Inyo-Mono
"...I remember back in 1969, my brother and I were camping on the Mt. Whitney Trail...

Wow, you're old, I didn't think Mt Whitney even existed way back that far!

Seriously, its a beatiful area, I have climbed Mt Whitney twice, once from the back with a big group, and once from the front solo. It is a great place to be if you want to view the heavens. Not such a great place if you want to breathe.

43 posted on 02/18/2008 6:59:42 AM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=-
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To: Bender2
I saw the Shuttle, Mir, and a third satellite all together about 10 years ago. The third satellite was known and in a similar inclination, but higher altitude. It was quite a sight.

Last Fall I saw two very bright satellites flying together. They didn't show up on any of the tracking sites, and they weren't the ISS or the Shuttle. It was about the same time that the Syrian nuke plant got blasted.

44 posted on 02/18/2008 7:08:06 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Bender2

I think what you saw might have been the flight that delivered an alien Scientolotot to the couch-jumping Cruise and his next potential life partner, “’til divorce do us part,” Kat.


45 posted on 02/18/2008 8:03:44 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Kind of an intergalactic stork?


46 posted on 02/18/2008 8:35:30 AM PST by Hunton Peck (You can't cheat an honest man, except by voting for liberals to cheat him for you.)
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To: Hunton Peck

Kind of :)


47 posted on 02/18/2008 8:38:33 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: Bender2
Many westerns were filmed there. If there are very large rocks made of granite it was most likely filmed near Lone Pine.
48 posted on 02/18/2008 8:42:18 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: Moonman62

I was able to observe once, shuttle, Mir, and a Soyuz.
All crewed one passing after the other.


49 posted on 02/18/2008 12:45:49 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Bender2
A little later, I looked up and saw another object above. It was not as bright as the shuttle or ISS. It looked for all purposes as a satellite in orbit.

Could this have been what you saw?


50 posted on 02/18/2008 1:23:00 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (God Bless George W. Bush)
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