Posted on 02/18/2008 7:13:12 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
imho McCain will get a lot of crossover democrats. maybe enough to make up for his losses among conservatives.
I think, but don't know, that these guys are lifting bits and pieces from the Opinion Strategies and Hamilton Campaigns survey commissioned by the Texas Credit Union League. Rather an interesting survey of likely voters. Has a margin error of 4.9%
I know that I'm supposed to invoke Italy as a cautionary tale any time that someone lambastes the two party system.
But if there were a Conservative party that had about 25% support among the populous and got 25% of the seats in congress, then we could form real coalitions with the RINOs, but ONLY if they gave us some of the things we wanted.
This is the way that the religious parties get anything at all in Israel. If there were a two party system in Israel, there might not be an Israel. The RINO or DINO equivalents would have ceded over most of the country to the Palestinians by now.
I think I'm going to vote for Romney.
For the first time in my life I'll probably not have a yard sign and will not be working FOR the GOP candidate. My first was Goldwater.
Like algore, I don't think he can carry it this fall either
McCain will go down in history as a GOP version of: Dukakis /McGovern /Kerry /Mondale.
Crossover votes from Socialists will serve the GOP well
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and endear them to Conservatives in the future.
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The only way I see McCain will win is if Hitlery wins, Obsama splits the demonrat party and goes independent
Gosh, I love Texans!!!
A lie! A disgusting lie! I know many Evangelical Christians voted for Romney. The reasons I heard were because he had experience as a governor, he had corporate experience, he was a successful businessman. He was a moral family man with no closet skeletons. Also mentioned, and something that cost Huckabee votes, was the lingering odor of the Hope Arkansas Clintons. I personally know of not ONE Evangelical Christian that voted against Romney because of his faith. It needs to be understood that a vote for Huckabee was not necessarily a vote against Romney but that is what the MSM would have everyone believe.
I’ll be staying home in the general unless Mitt Romney is McCain’s VP pick.
“if there were a Conservative party that had about 25% support among the populous and got 25% of the seats in congress, then we could form real coalitions with the RINOs, but ONLY if they gave us some of the things we wanted.”
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There are far more than two parties - Libertarian, Constitutional and Green quickly come to mind. You don’t think of them because they have little power; they have little power due to the dynamics of politics where people want their votes to count.
For example, if the election were to be between a Democrat, a Republican and a ‘Conservative’, and the polls showed 40% for both Democrat and Republican and only 20% for ‘Conservative’, when it came time to vote, many ‘Conservative’ voters will vote for the candidate that has the best chance of defeating the candidate they want the least. The third party thereby keeps getting weaker and weaker.
There are intrinsic reasons we have only two ‘major’ political parties. Review what happened to the Whig party.
Dc 68percent
Md 55 percent
Va 50 percent
New York 51 %
New Jersey 57 %
Mccains 50 %
From what I've been reading on FR and elsewhere, the GOP seems more interested in expanding leftward, to the exclusion of shoring up their right. With both parties moving left, it leaves a big hole that could eventually be filled with a new party, if more Conservatives would stick to their core beliefs instead of the party that has abandoned them.
Bill Clinton was elected POTUS twice without ever getting 50% of the vote.
If you prefer not to vote for a presidential candidate, please consider going to the polls and voting for local, state, and other national candidates of your choice.
This is what would have to change if we wanted a multi-party system.
I am on the fence as to whether we should have a multi-party system, but I am certain that the only way to achieve it is to adopt some election process like what they have in countries with multi-party systems.
A Democratic split could occur without a third party.
But I agree with you. McCain isn't going to be voted in on a groundswell of Republican enthusiasm. If he wins at all, the democrats are going to have to help him.
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