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McCain Has Yet to Exceed 50% in Texas Polls
POLITICAL LORE.COM ^ | 18 FEBRUARY 2008 | AP

Posted on 02/18/2008 7:13:12 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Recent polls show that John McCain is in for a struggle in the Republican primary contest in Texas. Despite a recent endorsement from former candidate Mitt Romney and a declaration by much of the American press that McCain is the Republican Nominee, McCain has been forced to stay on the campaign trail and fight for the final delegates needed to win the nomination.

If we have learned anything from this election cycle it is that the polls are not to be trusted. So a 4 point lead in Texas is negligible at this point for McCain. McCain could be further ahead or it could mean a virtual dead heat. A loss or even a close call in Texas would expose McCain as extremely vulnerable in the general election and would not encourage Republicans to consolidate behind a candidate who is not able to carry Bush’s home state even with the President’s stamp of approval.

McCain not being able to crack 50% in his own party after Mitt Romney and the Republican establishment is beginning to line up behind him spells big trouble in November for the GOP.

McCain’s two remaining competitors, Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul, are showing no signs of dropping out and in Ron Paul’s case; he has stated that he will remain in the race at least until the Republican convention.

How did it get to this point? Well the Christian right refused to put Romney over the top or give Ron Paul, who reflects their values, a closer look. Instead they tried to push Huckabee from the back of the pack to the frontrunner with their support alone, and it just wasn’t going to happen.

It is increasingly looking as if many Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul supporters will never fall in line with McCain. Those that don’t write in or go third party will likely sit this election out, making a Republican win in November highly unlikely. This exposes the fatal flaw of the two party system; it ostracizes well meaning citizens from being able to participate in the process with out holding their nose or feeling their vote is being wasted.

Looking ahead, this year’s election cycle could very well have an effect on the Republican Party for years to come. Romney’s early exit tells us that he hopes to have a future in the Republican Party, possibly to run for President again in the near future.

If McCain goes on to lose in the general election and Romney runs again in four years, it could very well mean the permanent fracturing of the Republican Party, with the Christian Right only supporting the mainstream candidate when he is one of their own. Romney was flatly denied the nomination by the Christian Right and by not taking no for an answer and receiving similar percentages in four years, he would be paving the way again for a centrist Republican candidate who is able to do well in the delegate rich states as McCain has done, but would likely lose to a Democratic incumbent.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: huckabee; mccain; texasprimary; tx2008; txprimary
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
At this point, McCain is the only choice for Republicans. Yet, I feel some satisfaction in knowing he has to work hard for the nomination.

Many of the talk show hosts want all Republicans to get behind McCain now and get a lead on democrats. But I think McCain should bear the brunt of conservative displeasure for a while longer.

He needs to know where he's transgressed.

41 posted on 02/18/2008 9:36:55 PM PST by TheThinker
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To: Vigilanteman
A big part of the reason Huckabee never got far out of the gate is because he was no conservative. In fact, he was so far left on a lot of issues (illegal aliens, criminal pardons, economic populism), he actually made the fairly Moderate Mitt Romney look conservative by comparison. Romney still leads Huckabee by 1.4 million votes two weeks after he has dropped out. The Huckster's main function then was to saddle us with John McCain by shooting at the guy in second place. His main function now is to feed his ego.

I'm not an evangelical, I'm an agnostic. I also know Mike Huckabee personally, which you obviously do not. And he not only "got out of the gate," he was leading in the polls until a lot of bought-and-paid-for hit pieces started sliming him (OMG, he actually used taxes to pay for desperately needed roads and schools instead of heaping the cost onto the deficit. SOCIALIST!!!) I have supported him from the beginning, through all the ridiculous slander and twisting of his record by his political opponents, the media and the litmus-test loudmouths who flitted from one fantasy "perfect conservative" to another (Paul to Hunter to Thompson to Romney) like Paris Hilton flitting from bar to bar. And I fully intend to vote for him in the Texas primary, the party mouthpieces be damned.

In case nobody's noticed, we now have four candidates still standing (five, if you count Paul) for the most difficult executive job in the world, and only one of them, Huckabee, has any executive experience whatsoever. Granted, since the MSM refers to him only as "former Baptist minister," most casual observers might not even realize he was a lt. governor, a very successful governor for 10-1/2 years, chairman of both the National and Southern Governors' Associations and one of Time Magazine's 5 Best Governors in America for 2005. If I'm stuck with McCain in November, I'll hold my nose and vote for him. But I'm not flushing my choice away, just because the GOP was stupid enough to frontload their selection process with liberal states with open primaries. I will use my vote to make a political statement, while that much, at least, is still legal.

42 posted on 02/18/2008 9:37:31 PM PST by HHFi
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To: DannyTN

Obama gets the nomination and whites cross over in protest.


Yep, I forgot the obvious. By the tens of millions.

The Dems know this too. Thats why they will not allow obsama on the ticket.

Expect more Larry Sinclair types coming out from Obsama’s past.


43 posted on 02/18/2008 9:38:35 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Lost in the great hoopla of Super Tuesday was the shocking fact that, among white Republicans, McCain only beat Romney 44%-42% in McCain’s home state of Arizona. I’m not surprised that Texas could be a serious embarrassment for McCain.


44 posted on 02/18/2008 10:57:42 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Uncle Miltie

The only states McCain got more than 50% are New York, New Jersey, Conn., Maryland, and Wash. D.C. These are rock solid blue states that McCain has no chance of carrying in November.


45 posted on 02/18/2008 11:03:16 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Man50D
Crossover votes from Socialists will serve the GOP well and endear them to Conservatives in the future.

Seemed to work before, but then they were called Reagan Democrats, rather than McCain Democrats...

46 posted on 02/18/2008 11:04:12 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Of course, he’s beat pretty much everyone else... With more than a two man race it would be rare for ANYONE get more than 50%; it’s really who gets the most and so far that’s been McCain.


47 posted on 02/18/2008 11:05:13 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Xenalyte
Those of us who vote our conscience will continue to sleep at night.

Well our consciences will not be keeping us awake

Worry and fear for the future of our Republic probably will. Not to mention the projectile vomiting.

48 posted on 02/18/2008 11:09:32 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
McCain’s “conservative” record. My collection.

FR links on McCain's record from Feb. 2000. MrChips collection.

49 posted on 02/18/2008 11:12:03 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Romney was flatly denied the nomination by the Christian Right...

BALONEY!!! He was denied the nomination because of his flip-flopping past and oppturnistic, "be all things to all men", "say anything to get elected" campaign game-plan. People just did not trust him. Rather the devil you know than the devil you don't know.

Romney did not come across as a man of principle and conviction. Don't blame the Christian Right for his demise. McCain is not exactly a wild-eyed Fundamentalist, and he won over Romney.
50 posted on 02/18/2008 11:17:42 PM PST by no dems (Global Warming advocates have the IQ of a can of Spam.)
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To: TomasUSMC; All

I wish the “toe-sucking” Dick Morris and the Great Rush Limbaugh would quit encouraging Pubbies in Texas to cross-over on March 4 and vote for Obama in the Dem Primary.

Don’t they know Hillary is beatable but Hussein Osama-Obama is not. America is smitten with the Closet Muslim.

Shut up Dick Morris!!!


51 posted on 02/18/2008 11:21:01 PM PST by no dems (Global Warming advocates have the IQ of a can of Spam.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

...”Among Republicans, 55 percent of likely Texas GOP primary voters support McCain as their choice for nominee. Thirty-two percent back former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and 11 percent support home-state congressman and former Libertarian standard-bearer Ron Paul. The poll’s sampling error for Republican respondents is 4 percentage points.

The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll was conducted by telephone from Friday through Sunday. Pollsters talked to 1,506 adults in Texas, including 553 likely Republican primary voters and 529 likely Democratic primary voters.”

Above as linked thru Drudge site....\\

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/18/poll.texas/


52 posted on 02/19/2008 1:19:35 AM PST by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Had to vent. No, I'm not a "hater"...you could say John RINO McCain "inspires" me.

53 posted on 02/19/2008 1:29:21 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Hazwaste
From what I've been reading on FR and elsewhere, the GOP seems more interested in expanding leftward, to the exclusion of shoring up their right. With both parties moving left, it leaves a big hole that could eventually be filled with a new party, if more Conservatives would stick to their core beliefs instead of the party that has abandoned them.

Bingo! I've been stating the same thing for a long time. If more people would stand firm on Conservative principles they would never have to employ the loser and defeatist hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils strategy when voting for John McCain or any other Socialist candidates.
54 posted on 02/19/2008 4:42:37 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I won't be voting for McCain in November especially if Romney is his VP pick. Romney was the only one worse than McCain and Paul in my list based on his record as governor.
55 posted on 02/19/2008 12:43:13 PM PST by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: TinaJeannes

All places where he will lose in November.


56 posted on 02/19/2008 12:44:25 PM PST by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
But if there were a Conservative party that had about 25% support among the populous and got 25% of the seats in congress

That can't happen in our system. To get into Congress, you have to win whole congressional districts. That makes it very difficult for any third party to get any seats at all. The only way a 25% party could get 25% of the seats would be for its support to be concentrated in several congressional districts so that it can be a majority party in certain parts of the country.

3rd parties don't have this problem in parliamentary systems like Israel's where seats are awarded proportionally, and hence a party with even 15% can get parliamentary representation.

57 posted on 02/19/2008 12:47:06 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
STATEMENT OF FAITH BY RON PAUL

Or Fred Phelps. They're both about equally nutty.
58 posted on 02/19/2008 12:48:24 PM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I agree completely with this. The Huckleberries killed an electable candidate with their ignorant myopia. Huckabee was/is/and always will be NcCain’s bitch. He split the conservative vote and therefore we got McCain. Huckabee knew exactly what he was doing.

I’d have an ounce of respect for Huckabee if he had had the courage to run against McCain and Romney. But it was all anti-Romney nonstop from this smug Christian preacher. Crap, this guy couldn’t even let go of Romney after Romney dropped out. What a total tool and buffoon.


59 posted on 02/19/2008 1:35:24 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: curiosity
That's exactly what I said in a later post.

Third parties don't make much sense in our system. In fact they tend to have the exact opposite effect of what they are intended.

That is why we would have to go to a parliamentary system.

The only way to get third parties started in America is if you can get a very well known and well liked individual to run under its banner.

When this has happened in the past, the third party basically replaced one of the original two parties and we were soon back to a two party system again.

If Perot hadn't wigged out and dropped out and then back into the presidential race, he might have won and the Dems or Pubbies would by now have ceased to be, having been replaced by the Reform Party.

60 posted on 02/19/2008 1:35:39 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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