Posted on 02/18/2008 11:35:01 PM PST by Kurt Evans
Temper, temper.
Republican John McCain is known for his.
He's been dubbed "Senator Hothead" by more than one publication, but he's also had some success extracting his hatchet from several foreheads.
Even his Republican Senate colleagues are not spared his sharp tongue.
"F--- you," he shouted at Texas Sen. John Cornyn last year.
"Only an a------ would put together a budget like this," he told the former Budget Committee chairman, Sen. Pete Domenici, in 1999.
"I'm calling you a f------ jerk!" he once retorted to Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley.
With Cornyn, he smoothed things over quickly. The two argued during a meeting on immigration legislation; Cornyn complained that McCain seemed to parachute in during the final stages of negotiations. "F--- you. I know more about this than anyone else in the room," McCain reportedly shouted.
Cornyn chuckled at the memory of what he called McCain's "aggressive expressions of differences." The Texan has endorsed McCain.
"He almost immediately apologized to me," Cornyn said last week. "I accepted his apology, and as far as I'm concerned, we've moved on down the road."
The political landscape in Arizona, McCain's home state, is littered with those who have incurred his wrath. Former Gov. Jane Hull pretended to hold a telephone receiver away from her ear to demonstrate a typical outburst from McCain in a 1999 interview with The New York Times.
McCain has even blown up at volunteers and, on occasion, the average Joe.
He often pokes fun at his reputation: "Thanks for the question, you little jerk," he said last year to a New Hampshire high school student wondering if McCain, at 71, was too old to be president.
Other times, his ire is all too real. This has prompted questions about whether his temperament is suited to the office of commander-in-chief or whether it might handicap him in a presidential campaign against either Barack Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton, who are not known for such outbursts.
"I decided I didn't want this guy anywhere near a trigger," Domenici told Newsweek in 2000.
His irascibility fits with McCain's proud image as a straight talker willing to say what people don't want to hear.
Yet McCain's temper hinders his efforts to make peace with his critics and rally Republicans behind his candidacy for president. That could be a big problem, because his most persistent foes - conservative radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh and Focus on the Family founder James Dobson - talk to tens of millions of people each day.
McCain and his advisers insist the acrimony is about matters of policy: "We have disagreements on specific issues from time to time," McCain recently said of his critics.
In fact, the disputes often are as much about style as they are about substance.
McCain's tone was certainly on Dobson's mind when he issued a stinging anti-endorsement on Super Tuesday. He mentioned various issues, but Dobson also said the senator "has a legendary temper and often uses foul and obscene language."
Privately, some conservatives grouse that McCain can seem more convivial toward his liberal colleagues. Just last week, McCain had an animated conversation and shared a belly laugh with liberal Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy, his partner on controversial immigration reforms, on the Senate floor.
And then there is his choice of words - not just the expletives, but also the use of dismissive phrases such as "agents of intolerance" to describe televangelists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell during the 2000 presidential campaign.
Personally, as much as I don’t like his behavior, I don’t think there is any “there” there.
These stories run, and there’s not much of a ruckus about them, except here.
Libs are much worse than that.
Though, libs could be saving it for later.
JMO
I disagree. Cornyn had protested McCains inclusion of proven gangmembers into his Amnesty and he gets told F--- you!
The "there" is McCain is insane.
That McCain can be a nasty person, is not news. He only compromises with liberals like Teddy “The Swimmer” Kennedy, so no matter who is elected you can count on Amnesty. It is coming, the American electorate just isn’t smart enough to have figure that out yet. They know it in Mexico though and you can make bank that they are going to do whatever they can to get here and be a part of it.
Posting anti-McCain stories will not get me to vote for your fake preacher, Huckabee.
Here is how George Washington’s temper has been described:
Excerpted from:
http://www.factmonster.com/t/history/true-washington/temper.html
WASHINGTON’S TEMPER
“There can be no doubt that Washington had a high temper. Hamilton’s allusion to his not being remarkable for “good temper” has already been quoted, as has also Stuart’s remark that “all his features were indicative of the strongest and most ungovernable passions, and had he been born in the forests, he would have been the fiercest man among the savage tribes.” Again Stuart is quoted by his daughter as follows:
“While talking one day with General Lee, my father happened to remark that Washington had a tremendous temper, but held it under wonderful control. General Lee breakfasted with the President and Mrs. Washington a few days afterwards.
“’I saw your portrait the other day,’ said the General, ‘but Stuart says you have a tremendous temper.’
“’Upon my word,’ said Mrs. Washington, coloring, ‘Mr. Stuart takes a great deal upon himself to make such a remark.’
“’But stay, my dear lady,’ said General Lee, ‘he added that the president had it under wonderful control.’
“With something like a smile, General Washington remarked, ‘He is right.’”
Lear, too, mentions an outburst of temper when he heard of the defeat of St. Clair, and elsewhere records that in reading politics aloud to Washington “he appeared much affected, and spoke with some degree of asperity on the subject, which I endeavored to moderate, as I always did on such occasions.” How he swore at Randolph and at Freneau is mentioned elsewhere. Jefferson is evidence that “his temper was naturally irritable and high-toned, but reflection and resolution had obtained a firm and habitual ascendency over it. If however it broke its bonds, he was most tremendous in his wrath.”
Yup!..and I'll be damned if I'm gonna vote for anyone for it!
As I said, it is abhorable behaviour.
But, it’s been in the media for some time.
I’m sorry to say that we might be the only ones who care.
I hope that’s not the case
One problem among many.
“... Washington had a tremendous temper, but held it under wonderful control.”
And there’s the difference.
“To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.”
— George Washington
“Direct my thoughts, words, and work daily more and more into the likeness of Thy Son, Jesus Christ.”
— George Washington
“It is impossible to rightly govern without God and the Bible.”
— George Washington
“I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs that honesty is always the best policy.”
— George Washington
“If to please the people, we offer what we ourselves disapprove, how can we afterwards defend our work? Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair; the event is in the hand of God.”
— George Washington
“Our cruel and unrelenting enemy leaves us only the choice of brave resistance, or the most abject submission. We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die.”
— George Washington
http://wasearch.loc.gov/e22k/20021021073026/http://kurtevans.com/ff.html
Maybe McCain should just scream and throw ashtrays.
Or perhaps this is just some of that liberal and moderate support that we have been told to expect.
Remember the Barry Goldwater commercial the Dems ran with the little girl and the mushroom cloud?
With McCain, it’s all too real. People are really going to be wondering if we want someone with a temper like that near THE BUTTON.
John McCain has an adopted “black” skinned daughter who Mother Theresa asked he and his wife to adopt.
In 1991, Cindy McCain brought an abandoned three-month old girl, who badly needed medical treatment for a severe cleft palate, to the U.S. from a Bangladeshi orphanage run by Mother Teresa;[99] the McCains decided to adopt her, and named her Bridget.[100]
Sources
1. Wikipedia
2. Dadmag - here
http://www.dadmag.com/archive/060400jmccain.php
3. Paul Alexander, Man of the People: The Life of John McCain. John Wiley & Sons, p.147.
“Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.” — Matthew 25:40 (KJV)
Yahoo, M-cubed! You said it for me and those of us on the anti-Invasion right.
Poor Kurt! Don’t you realize that Huckabee cannot win a Northern state and that Hunter can’t even carry his own CA? Besides, Huckabee cannot possibly win the nomination, so it’s all a wet dream (not mine)...
Mr. Evans:
I am not trying to argue with you, just provide information. Here’s another piece of information:
President George Washington had black slaves; Senator John McCain has an adopted black daughter.
“Not everyone who says to me ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” — Matthew 7:21
>>McCain’s own hot temper may be his worst enemy<<
I would think it was #3 behind his stands on illegal immigration and free speech.
“... the McCains decided to adopt her, and named her Bridget.”
She was obviously too big to use for stem cell research.
I’m very familiar with McCain’s family history. Even if I believed he was a Christian, he clearly hasn’t developed the maturity of character necessary to be entrusted with the presidency.
He authored McCain-Feingold’s immoral and blatantly unconstitutional restrictions on political free speech, as well as the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill for illegal aliens. He was one of the “Keating Five” caught up in the ethics scandal of 1989. He organized the Gang of 14 to preserve filibusters in judicial hearings. He supports embryonic stem cell research and opposes a Marriage Protection Amendment to prevent our most liberal states from establishing legal definitions of marriage that vary from the historical meaning of the word.
On the Don Imus show in 2006, he said, “I would rather have a clean government than one where, quote, ‘First Amendment rights’ are being respected, that has become corrupt. If I had my choice, I’d rather have the clean government.” McCain apparently believes it’s possible for a government to forbid free speech and still be “clean”...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zfq9DPuMX1A
If McCain loved America more than he loves his relentless quest for personal power, he could demonstrate that by stepping aside.
Had to vent. No, I'm not a "hater"...you could say John RINO McCain "inspires" me.
I have to agree with the above posters. No matter who wins, "Amnesty" will be on the agenda. We're going to literally have to fight like all hell to stop it from becomming law. Even them, it will become "administratively permissive" and the flood gates will open...
I want a man in there who has the stones to have a temper. I remember when RWR told the Air Traffic Controllers to eff off.
And I will remain convinced till I go to my grave that he had a bit of a private chat with Ayatollah-wanna-be before the inauguration and told him as soon as he could, he would nuke Tehran if the hostages were not released.
If you think it’s a coincidence that the hostages were five minutes OUT of Iranian airspace headed for Frankfurt when Ronnie said “Do solemnly swear...” then I got a bridge to sell ya.
McCain’s job would be to enforce the law, not make new ones. I personally have always shivered when the MSM starts talking about “the presidents budget...” The president has no damn power whatever to make a budget, the Constitution specifically and plenary gives that to Congress.
“President George Washington had black slaves ...”
And they lived better than many of their free contemporaries. Washington arranged in his will for all his slaves to be freed after his wife’s death, providing for the continued care and education of former slaves, support and training for the children until they came of age, and ongoing support for the elderly.
“I remember when RWR told the Air Traffic Controllers to eff off.”
He gave his word that they’d be terminated if they didn’t return to work within 48 hours. Then he kept his word. He didn’t tell anyone to “eff off”...
President Reagan was stable, principled and predictable. McCain is none of the above.
His outlook on illegal immigration doesn't show a desire to enforce the law, rather it shows he'll just change the rules to suit him.
The same can be said about free speech too.
Our human nature can tolerate an angry man but it cannot tolerate a mean and nasty woman, it is a simple as that.
There come a time when you need to face reality that McCain is the Republican nominee and this time is now.
-and I will never vote for a man who has taken money from, and has done the bidding of George Soros (McCain-Feingold):
John McCain: George Soros’ Useful Idiot
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/30556.html
McCain’s Reform Institute donor list, note the Tides Foundation:
http://reforminstitute.org/about/AboutDonors.aspx
Sen. McCain; past Chairman pf the Reform Institute:
http://www.reforminstitute.org/about/about.aspx
AMEN!!!
LLS
Only McCain has an issue with his temper?
McCramnesty may have adopted a black child, but it didn't cure his insanity.
There comes a time when you need to face the reality that you are not a US citizen and therefore your proper place is on the sidelines and not attempting to influence the voters of a nation not your own.
I'm mostly serious when I say I kinda like that our enemies would have to worry about that.
OTOH it's possible he'd drop the big one on Hazleton PA or other cities who have thwarted his plan of dissolving the USA as a sovereign nation.
It's not just the temper; it's the mental imbalance and his plans for our future. (Yes, I know all three of 'em have the same plans for our future.)
I think you need to STFU FR class of 1998. I am not yet a US citizen but I have the right to speak my mind. Again you need to STFU.
You certainly do have the right to speak your mind, now the next step is to learn to regulate it with a sense of right and wrong. This ain’t your election and you don’t have a place in it - by definition you represent a foreign interest, and this country has served foreign interests over American ones quite long enough.
You certainly do have the right to speak your mind, now the next step is to learn to regulate it with a sense of right and wrong. This ain’t your election and you don’t have a place in it - by definition you represent a foreign interest, and this country has served foreign interests over American ones quite long enough.
Can I say it now that Hunter has dropped out of the race? He had eyebrows like a Batman villain and a build like the Penguin. He looked stage-crafted for a Hollywood “evil corporate guy.”
Nothing against (most) of his politics or his family dedication to the military, but he was custom-made to be shot down by the media, pronto.
All three current assumed candidates or frontrunners will dissolve our borders if they can, and then we won't HAVE a country--certainly not as we now understand it. If the president has an R after his name, many Republican congressmen will support him in whatever destructive course he sets. They'll be much more likely to fight a D if we keep the pressure on them.
Also, the media and the entrenched (pro-Amnesty) Republican hierarchy have pronounced McCain the candidate after cutting whatever deals they needed with him. It will take close to a miracle to replace him as "our" candidate, but, until the convention at least he isn't it.
FR Class of 1998, jveritas IIRC is working toward legally becoming a citizen and is a valuable contributor to FR IMO. I also don't mind a person attempting to influence an election by rational argument--especially a person who cares enough about the country to want to become a part of it in the right way.
Also, although there are a ton of people I wish would STFU, nobody NEEDS to including both of you IMO. STFU isn't a rational argument however much we might wish some folks would.
All three current assumed candidates or frontrunners will dissolve our borders if they can, and then we won't HAVE a country--certainly not as we now understand it. If the president has an R after his name, many Republican congressmen will support him in whatever destructive course he sets. They'll be much more likely to fight a D if we keep the pressure on them.
Also, the media and the entrenched (pro-Amnesty) Republican hierarchy have pronounced McCain the candidate after cutting whatever deals they needed with him. It will take close to a miracle to replace him as "our" candidate, but, until the convention at least he isn't it.
FR Class of 1998, jveritas IIRC is working toward legally becoming a citizen and is a valuable contributor to FR IMO. I also don't mind a person attempting to influence an election by rational argument--especially a person who cares enough about the country to want to become a part of it in the right way.
Also, although there are a ton of people I wish would STFU, nobody NEEDS to including both of you IMO. STFU isn't a rational argument however much we might wish some folks would.
Let me repeat what I said before: STFU.
Thank you and I appreciate the support. FR class of 1998 is part of a tiny group on FR who have been after me for years because I am not yet a US citizen. Most of those are banned and they are now part of Liberty Post.
Some people can disagree on McCain but to bring up "you are not a citizen" argument deserves the answer that I gave to FR class of 1998.
I know what you’ve done, and it’s good work. However, the bottom line is that you are not an American and thus have no appropriate place in our elections.
If you want to meet somewhere in the middle and simply preface your election-related comments with “I’m not an American but...” then that would be sufficient disclosure for me to withdraw the objection.
I didn’t like the interference when the Chinese did (do) it, and I don’t like it anymore when anyone else tries it, either.
And I especially don’t like it when a foreigner presumes to tell us Americans where, when, and in whose name we should send our soldiers to fight and die.
I am not a "foreigner", I am legal permanent resident of the US and waiting for my US citizenship. I love this country and I pay my share of taxes which fund the government and the military. As a legal permanent resident I can legally contribute money and campaign for a given candidate even though that I cannot vote. So I have as much stake in this elections as you or any other American.
“...there’s not much of a ruckus about them, except here.”
The steady drip, drip, drip of negativity will take its toll over time. Even now, in the head-to-head polls, where McCain was killing Hillary just a month or so ago, they are neck and neck. And Obama was so far down they weren’t even polling him in the head-to-heads, yet now he’s ahead of McCain by a few points.
Say something often enough, people will eventually believe it.
Yes, McCain is not a saint. Neither was George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, or other presidents. Lincoln suspended habeas corpus and put people in jail against the dictates of the U.S. Supreme Court. If you want to find reasons not to vote for McCain or for not voting at all, you can find them. Conservatives who want a utopian candidate sound more like liberals.
You’re a textbook fool.
If the man is a permanent resident and going for Citizenship, not someone who thumbed a ride from Tijuana, and if he’s beholden to the IRS and/or traffic cameras and sales tax and property tax and meter maids, then he has the right to speak out for or against the System he’s working to enter and eventually be ground under.
The numbers in terms of voters aren't there for McCain. Neither is the money. So it doesn't matter if conservatives "rallied" around McCain - we're simply outnumbered by the libs.
McCain is losing in a landslide to Obama or Hillary, and there's nothing conservatives can do about it except plan for 2010 and 2012.
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