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McCain's Losing Message (Democrat attacks starting...)
New York Times ^ | Feb. 19, 2008 | Eugene Robinson

Posted on 02/18/2008 11:47:30 PM PST by CreativePerspective

George W. Bush, whose errors and failures cast a pall over McCain's presidential bid, was much more genuine in offering support for a man with whom he has clashed repeatedly in the past. For the president, obviously, political ambition is moot. More than party unity is at stake: McCain is the last candidate standing who shares the Decider's vision of the Iraq war as an open-ended struggle still requiring a massive deployment of American military forces that would eventually lead to some sort of meaningful strategic "victory" for the United States.

The Decider is eager to help McCain paint Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton as defeatists, instead of realists (which they are) who recognize that the Iraq invasion was a historic blunder, that the military achievements of Bush's troop surge have served only to partially mitigate the damage done to U.S. national interests by the war and that a permanent U.S. occupation of Iraq -- which is, essentially, the Bush-McCain policy -- will harm our nation's security rather than enhance it.

The Democratic candidates are impolite enough to point out that the losses suffered by al-Qaeda in Iraq, which Bush and McCain love to cite, are really the vanquishing of a foe that could never have existed without the U.S. invasion. The Democrats also recognize that while U.S. forces are bogged down in Iraq, al-Qaeda is regrouping in Pakistan and plotting new attacks. They learned this from the Bush administration's own intelligence estimates.

The war is only one issue on which McCain, as the all-but-certain Republican nominee, is out of step with voters. Health care is another: While Clinton and Obama have offered far-reaching proposals to make health insurance available to millions of uninsured Americans, Republicans aren't offering so much as a bandage.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; democrats; elections; liberal; mccain; rino

1 posted on 02/18/2008 11:47:31 PM PST by CreativePerspective
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To: CreativePerspective

This leftist doesn’t like McCain or the “decider”, who cares what he thinks?


2 posted on 02/18/2008 11:52:25 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: CreativePerspective

I’m still waiting to hear the Democrats plan on the economy.

In the cubicle of this man’s office McCain may conveniently equal Bush but on the heat of the campaign trail it gets a bit more complex than that.


3 posted on 02/18/2008 11:58:01 PM PST by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates

Health care ??
Have we (no i don’t expect the dims to learn this)
But we the fiasco of tenncare and mitt’s folly and arnold could not even get the dims to go along with his cure, doing nothing may be a winning message.


4 posted on 02/19/2008 12:15:27 AM PST by genghis
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To: CreativePerspective

Hmmm... Dems and libs love McCain until he’s the only one left standing after the nomination fracas... and then they suddenly decide he’s a jerk.

There’s a shocker...

Not.


5 posted on 02/19/2008 12:20:39 AM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: CreativePerspective
McCain's not conservative enough !

we need to blow ourselves up, throw the troops under the bus and all their efforts

and kill off the last remaining toehold of conservatism that is already hanging by a thread

how dare mcCain

where's my explosives belt ? [/sarc]

6 posted on 02/19/2008 12:27:04 AM PST by KTM rider (Why cut off your nose to spite your face, when you can just hold it instead)
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Iraq war as an open-ended struggle still requiring a massive deployment of American military forces...

Massive by modern standards I suppose. It's not even close to the build up to declared wars. Bigger than Granada and Panama, smaller than WWII and Korea.
7 posted on 02/19/2008 12:33:04 AM PST by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: CreativePerspective

is this what they mean when they say “re-write history”?


8 posted on 02/19/2008 2:43:59 AM PST by ripley
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To: CreativePerspective
Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama are defeatists and traitors for our troops, they both refused to fund the troops for over a year and they were against the surge that led to victory in Iraq against Al Qaeda. No traitor will be elected President of the United States.

On the other hand early last summer where thing were still not going well in Iraq and in time where John McCain polls number were very low and everyone wrote him off they him asked if his support for the war and the surge has caused his campaign to be "dead" he said: " I would rather lose and election than lose the war", that is the man that we want as our Commander in Chief in time of war against islamic terrorism.

9 posted on 02/19/2008 2:44:53 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: CreativePerspective
The Democrats also recognize that while U.S. forces are bogged down in Iraq, al-Qaeda is regrouping in Pakistan and plotting new attacks

Al Qaeda is much weaker in Pakistan than people believe. Also what do the democrats want to do regarding Pakistan? Are they going to invade? Let us hear their solution.

10 posted on 02/19/2008 2:46:53 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: CreativePerspective
The Democratic candidates are impolite enough to point out that the losses suffered by al-Qaeda in Iraq, which Bush and McCain love to cite, are really the vanquishing of a foe that could never have existed without the U.S. invasion

Al Qaeda was in Iraq before the invasion started. Zarqawi was dispatched by Al Qeada in 2002 to establish Al Qaeda in Iraq in the Sunni areas. There are Al Qaeda documents that prove this and I have read them.

11 posted on 02/19/2008 2:52:23 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: CreativePerspective

More liberal effluvia from the Washington (com)Post. This may be safely ignored.


12 posted on 02/19/2008 2:54:47 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: CreativePerspective

Oh Mr. Robinson, lord McCain’s claim to fame will not be his close attachment to President Bush it will be lord McCain’s deep love affair with liberalism. Remember Mr. Robinson, lord McCain’s campaign spew is about how he destroyed Rummy in this war against terrorism, NOT how he helped Saddam to come tumbling down.


13 posted on 02/19/2008 3:01:40 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: CreativePerspective

McDole may still win, turn on Democrats, listen to Limbaugh for 3 weeks, bring a real conservative message to the debate/campaign and expose the Socialist Democrats for what they really are, Dictators, not Presidents.


14 posted on 02/19/2008 3:02:52 AM PST by Son House (The Democrat's High Tax Rates Suppress American Freedom, Opportunity and Jobs..)
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To: CreativePerspective
'"victory"'

the use of the quote marks tells it all.

15 posted on 02/19/2008 4:31:26 AM PST by Williams
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To: CreativePerspective

I hope there are a lot of these articles in the next few weeks, to remind those here who insist that there is “no difference” between McCain and the democrats exactly what they are claiming as “the same”.

Even if conservatives won’t “support” McCain, we can certainly stand up against attacks like this one. Conservatism will be under attack in this election, NOT from McCain but from the democrats, and we can stand up for conservative principles even if it means defending McCain in the process.


16 posted on 02/19/2008 5:52:09 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CreativePerspective
Health care is another: While Clinton and Obama have offered far-reaching proposals to make health insurance available to millions of uninsured Americans, Republicans aren't offering so much as a bandage.

Yes - far reaching! - Reaching farther into my taxpayer pockets than ever before!

17 posted on 02/19/2008 8:59:18 PM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: CreativePerspective
Health care is another: While Clinton and Obama have offered far-reaching proposals to make health insurance available to millions of uninsured Americans, Republicans aren't offering so much as a bandage.

Yes - far reaching! - Reaching farther into my taxpayer pockets than ever before!

18 posted on 02/19/2008 9:26:56 PM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: KTM rider

**McCain’s not conservative enough ! **

I think we will all be surprised at how conservative McCain really is.

Just watch.


19 posted on 02/19/2008 9:30:45 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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