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China can effectively detect and trail F22 now?
http://www.indiandefenceforum.com/index.php/topic,2368.460.html ^ | Feb,20,2008 | badguy2000

Posted on 02/20/2008 2:22:27 AM PST by badguy2200

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To: rlmorel
What? No Goldfinger reference?

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41 posted on 02/20/2008 4:44:16 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

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42 posted on 02/20/2008 5:04:11 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: badguy2200

It is not the truth.

The message is not posted by Chinese official medias but a Hongkong media instead.

In the official report, it just refer the AWAC as “a new vital aircraft” without mentioning any features. I do not know where they found its ability to detect F-22. As a matter of fact, Chinese official medias rarely report any military progress, let alone the detailed functions.

It is not “China boasts its new AWAC” but somebody else.


43 posted on 02/20/2008 9:52:49 PM PST by aijam
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To: CarrotAndStick

It would be able to direct targeting to the general area. The Raptor’s primary concern would probably be fighters, not SAM missiles.


44 posted on 02/21/2008 3:10:25 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: SampleMan

The claim was that they could detect it - not that they could filter it out of all the clutter. Looking for only high speed targets would eliminate birds, but at that resolution I imagine there’d be a lot of clutter. Even if the AWAC could spot them, it wouldn’t present much of a danger until the technology can be made small and light enough to be packed into a fighter’s air to air missiles. With the advanced avionics packages we have we’re still far ahead of the game. As you mentioned - there’s more to stealth than a low radar profile. As with the bombers avoidance and jamming is also factored in.
I’m of the opinion that the same people who were critical of the Raptor from the beginning have changed tactics. Now they realize the can’t criticize the plane for its performance and they’re trying to convince people that it’s no better than much less expensive aircraft - because our potential enemies can see it.


45 posted on 02/21/2008 3:44:52 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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The claim was that they could detect it - not that they could filter it out of all the clutter.

Your saying detect without locating? Like a blind man in a warehouse hearing thunder outside, so he knows there was lightning somewhere? Possible.

I’m of the opinion that the same people who were critical of the Raptor from the beginning have changed tactics. Now they realize the can’t criticize the plane for its performance and they’re trying to convince people that it’s no better than much less expensive aircraft - because our potential enemies can see it.

Sounds right. FYI, There was a Serbian several years ago that proclaimed stealth dead by claiming that he could use cell towers to track the F-117. Now that makes sense, at least in theory, because the radar signal does reflect off the stealth aircraft and go in all directions. Thus it could be triangulated if the math was perfect, using a large array of scattered receivers. The big problem with that, is that it is the easiest type of system to spoof, as it can't filter out anything based on direction, Doppler, signal strength, etc.

46 posted on 02/21/2008 5:05:06 AM PST by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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The U.S. can detect and track the fragments of the China AWAC, as it falls to earth.


47 posted on 02/21/2008 5:08:53 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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Your saying detect without locating? Like a blind man in a warehouse hearing thunder outside, so he knows there was lightning somewhere? Possible.

China is trying to present itself to the world as a leader in the military technology field. This would fit in with their version of "creative advertising."
Maybe they have a few Madison Ave. types working with them. I'm suddenly reminded of a commercial running on TV for a new easy weight loss pill. A young woman makes the statement "And 78% of the weight loss is PURE BODY FAT!" I wonder what the other 22% is.

48 posted on 02/21/2008 2:46:19 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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