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Junk Science: Looming Lightbulb Liability
Fox News ^ | February 21, 2008 | Steve Milloy

Posted on 02/21/2008 6:29:25 PM PST by Larry R. Johnson

The speeding freight train carrying toxic waste liability for makers, sellers and purchasers of compact fluorescent lightbulbs, or CFLs, was only faintly audible in the distance last spring when this column first warned of it. Now we’re beginning to see that environmentalist-stoked train speed toward its victims, whom President Bush and Congress just finished tying to the tracks.

CFLs and all other fluorescent lightbulbs require special clean-up and disposal procedures because they contain small amounts of mercury, which is neurotoxic at sufficiently high exposures. For example, you’re not supposed to vacuum breakage or toss used bulbs in household trash.

Despite these clean-up and disposal hassles, environmental groups, bulb makers and retailers relentlessly have promoted CFL use as a strategy for reducing electricity consumption and the power plant emissions allegedly causing global warming.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: agw; cfl; environment; globalwarming; green; junkscience; lawsuits; lightbulbs; mercury
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To: Larry R. Johnson
Over Christmas we augmented the lighting in our house with fluorescent lights. Not those wimpy little curly-Q bulbs -- we went with the big, whomping 48-inch manly bulbs. Our kitchen used to be lit by eight 60-watt incandescent bulbs embedded in the ceiling. Even though we were burning plenty of electricity, it seemed like we were living by candlelight. Once they outlawed those 500-watt halogen lamps, we might as well have been living in a cave. Fortunately, there was some space on top of the kitchen cabinets, so I installed four banks of four 32-watt fluorescent tubes.

Let there be light!

Now with about the same energy expenditure, we have what seems like 10 times as much light. I can once again read nutrition labels (even when some idiot package designer puts small black print on a red background).

Our house looks a little different from the outside, too. Instead of the warm, incandescent glow that comes from every other house on the block, our house looks like something out of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind", but by gosh we have light.

21 posted on 02/21/2008 9:06:27 PM PST by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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To: AZLiberty
By the way, my wife loves it. She use to hate fluorescent lights. The old ones, with magnetic ballast, would pulsate at 60 Hz, giving her terrible headaches. The new ones, with electronic ballast, don't have that effect, and with the "daylight" high-temperature bulbs, they cast a light of similar quality to those expensive Ott reading lamps.

She used to complain all the time how dark it was in the house. No more.

I also replaced the lights in the laundry room. Where we once had two 60 watt bulbs lighting a 10x12 room, we now have a bank of four 32-watt, four-foot fluorescent bulbs. You practically need sunglasses.

22 posted on 02/21/2008 9:52:04 PM PST by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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To: Larry R. Johnson
Why aren't LED bulbs available that would fit standard light sockets? AFAIK, the CCrane company is the only place that carries them.

They're pretty expensive, but I would think there would be enough demand that companies would be jumping on this market - thus lowering the price. It seems a better way to go than those stupid curly-Q bulbs.

23 posted on 02/21/2008 10:23:31 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Oztrich Boy

How did you get that heavy old mattress up on your scanner?


24 posted on 02/22/2008 1:55:56 AM PST by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: Larry R. Johnson
Have you ever seen a 'rough duty' light bulb, intended for droplights and such? The bulb is coated with a thin layer of plastic that will contain the glass should the bulb get broken.

Why don't they just put a clear plastic shrink wrap over the bulb spiral, and all breakage (and the minute amount of mercury) would be contained in case of a breakage.

25 posted on 02/22/2008 7:28:05 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Larry R. Johnson; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; SideoutFred; ...


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26 posted on 02/22/2008 7:33:24 AM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: stboz

It looks like “they” were right..........


27 posted on 02/22/2008 7:37:15 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Tucker39; huldah1776

Me, too. I’m buying enough to last until I shuffle off this mortal coil!


28 posted on 02/22/2008 7:39:41 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: All

Just encourage people to use lower wattage incandescents! Sheesh!


29 posted on 02/22/2008 7:49:25 AM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: Ken H

LEDs are coming. They’re going to create pretty fast obsolescence for CFLs.


30 posted on 02/22/2008 7:56:54 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: AZLiberty
we now have a bank of four 32-watt, four-foot fluorescent bulbs. You practically need sunglasses.

You wouldn't happen to be Tim "The Toolman" Taylor, would you?

"What we need here is more POWER!"

31 posted on 02/22/2008 8:15:12 AM PST by bubbacluck
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To: Tucker39
LED's are going to be our light source of the future.

I'm not going to stock up on the old stuff, and I'm not going to buy CFL's. By the time Edison bulbs are banned, 2012, LED's will be out in force. Same lux, lower heat, lower power consumption and longer life ~50,000+ hours. Might cost a little more initially, but will pay for itself in reduced energy and replacement costs.

32 posted on 02/22/2008 8:26:20 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: rlmorel

The originals were pretty bad, I agree. But except for decorative lamps we use them all through the house. And like the savings.
Remember, these contain only a few (1? 2?) percent of what the old fever thermometers held.


33 posted on 02/22/2008 8:45:04 AM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Larry R. Johnson

THank you!!
Thank you for the applause!

I called this one EXACTLY CORRECT the day they banned the Incandescent lightbulb.

It’s going to be a liability attorney’s worst nightmare...


34 posted on 02/22/2008 8:51:25 AM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEMOCRAT-You'll look great in a Burka!)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

“........Oh, Mr. Goldwater...where are you.....?”

He died with the America I grew up in.

BTT - Amen!


35 posted on 02/22/2008 9:16:22 AM PST by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: liege

No, I’m not “The Toolman”, and I don’t even have a need for POWER. But as the middle-aged eyes of this couple continue to lose their flexibility, good lighting becomes more important. I COULD have replaced all those incandescents with comparable (HAH!) low-wattage CFLs, but you only live once. As long as you’re going to contaminate the planet with mercury, you might as well do it right.


36 posted on 02/22/2008 9:39:01 AM PST by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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To: AZLiberty
As long as you’re going to contaminate the planet with mercury, you might as well do it right.

I like the way you think.

37 posted on 02/22/2008 11:43:09 AM PST by bubbacluck
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To: Larry R. Johnson

Spent fluorescent bulbs will be the MTBE of the 2000s. More folly from the left!

Notice how the Philips commercials urging us to switch bulbs have gone away?


38 posted on 02/22/2008 3:41:38 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: Larry R. Johnson

Does this mean the end of the Easy Bake Oven?


39 posted on 02/22/2008 3:43:59 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

If these new CFL bulbs are so friggin safe, how bout we dispose of them by smashing them in the ventialtion units at one of Al Gore’s many mansions?

I don’t own one, and I hope that I never will, and my “doomsday” bunker of real light bulbs is growing.

Just like when I had my bathrooms redone, I absolutely refused to replace my toilets. I rebuilt them completely. Aahhh, full flush. And ONE flush.


40 posted on 02/26/2008 2:08:05 PM PST by AbeKrieger (There is a special place in Hell for Lyndon Johnson.)
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