You don't know what skeered is!
;o)
Posted on 02/21/2008 10:23:53 PM PST by melt
LOLOL You’re really skeering me now, dixiechick2000. ;^)
You have excellent goals for visiting this site and they are aligned with my goals, except you are clearly a little more reasonable then I am. We each have a different style, actually a good thing.
As to reasonable right versus far, far right - I’d say that at this point in America, the reasonable right includes all those who will vote for McCain with the far, far right those that will not vote at the POTUS level or write-in someone that is no longer running or has never run. I believe that there is a lot on the table this time around - I’m not 100% pleased with the choice but I do know that McCain continues to maintain some core values that are important to conservatives and appears to be ready to listen to conservatives - but in the end will go his own way just like Bush has done on a few issues. Basically, McCain and Bush are about the same, expect McCain has a real interest in pork/ear mark projects and just may do something good in that area.
Those here, on the far, far right do not want to compromise anything, yet compromise is going on every minute of the day in each of our lives and surely in a political life at all levels. Those conservatives are a bad as the far, far left in my view and coming up against them here is like dealing with bullies in the school yard. I can play at that level, also.
You and I seem to be in agreement here.
I was disheartened to see McCain become the clear front-runner. I do not want to vote for McCain, let alone donate to his campaign, but I will do so, despite being angry about this being my best choice.
There are several areas where I think McCain will be reliably conservative: trade, health care reform, and the WoT. McCain stands in great contrast to Clinton and Obama on these issues. He would likely be more conservative than GWB on his response to the financial/credit crisis and on earmarks.
He would be less reliable on SCOTUS appointments, but he won’t appoint another Ginsburg or Breyer, unlike Obama or Clinton.
I’ll have to hold my nose and overlook his history on immigration “reform”, campaign finance “reform”, and McCain -Lieberman.
I tend to think of those who refuse to support McCain as absolutists rather than extremists. Absolutists have a place in the party (but then, I also think that Ron Paul has a place in the party). They might be affiliated with a particular cause and view certain policy positions as non-negotiable.
This is understandable, but my view is that one must be more pragmatic in a Presidential campaign. The last several elections have been close. If Perot hadn’t run in ‘92 and ‘96, these elections would likely have been even closer than ‘04. The electorate does not have a conservative consensus as in 1972 or 1984 or a liberal consensus as in 1936 or 1964. McCain will actually inject some interesting dynamics into the race. It’s possible he could get a (slight) majority of the Hispanic vote, a large chunk of Jewish voters, and a majority of Catholics.
For this reason, I think that in the long run, McCain could be of great benefit to conservatives. He could realign the political map favorably to conservatives who run as Republicans.
Conservatives should also extract very specific commitments from McCain now. That means we have to negotiate and compromise, which is not always easy for principled people to do.
“Look at it on the bright side. After he loses the election, he can always do Viagra commercials, no?”
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Yes, but Dole ogled a scantily-clad, younger Britney Spears on TV as part of the commercial. Who will McCain ogle?
WOW - now that is a well-reasoned, well thought out position on the entire scenario that is facing all of us.
I’m also not a happy camper, but whoever the lead conservatives are, possibly posting here, did practically nothing to put up a candidate that could secure at least Republican votes and possibly independent votes in the final run. If you think about it, all the carping going on around here comes from the ‘absolutists’ (which to me means the same as extremist in this arena, along with far, far rightist) who sat on their butts versus encouraging those that tried to run or those that could have run to run.
Now, those absolutists want all posters to join their ranks to convey some sort of protest statement by no voting or writing in a candidate that has no chance - both actions logically produce a vote for the other side.
McCain isn’t the conservative choice, OK that’s a settled issue that was never in doubt. Next choice is - McCain, given his position on so many issues, but out all issues - plus the the position on all issues relating to Obama/Clinton. Clearly, it’s a huge compromise but given the voting pattern of Americans, a compromise that all conservatives, except the absolutist can easily make in view of the circumstances - it’s simply doing the right thing for America versus maintaining the unproductive self-serving attitude of many posters here.
No it isn’t. I am sick of this nonsense. A vote for the constution party is a vote for that candidate PERIOD!!!!
And next election when they chose Mayor Bloomberg are you going to be saying the same thing???? Yes you will because you are a Republican and not a conservative.
You don't know what skeered is!
;o)
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