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Crash raises issues of fake IDs, immigration
Star Tribune ^ | February 23, 2008 | JEAN HOPFENSPERGER,

Posted on 02/23/2008 1:00:54 PM PST by mdefranc

The van driver who witnesses says hit a school bus, killing four children, appeared in court Friday. She gave her name as Alianiss Nunez Morales, but authorities say this is not her real name.

There's a brisk trade in false documents in the state, spurring some legislators to call for crackdowns....

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: alianissmorales; aliens; bushlegacy; immigrantlist; immigration; olgamarinafranco
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Thanks for open borders, President Bush and Senator McCain.
1 posted on 02/23/2008 1:00:55 PM PST by mdefranc
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All Americans should be protesting in the streets.
When will our LAWS be ENFORCED??????????????????


2 posted on 02/23/2008 1:05:11 PM PST by FES0844 (FES0844)
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Thanks for open borders, President Bush and Senator McCain. The porosity of the border has been a problem since before Reagan.
3 posted on 02/23/2008 1:06:54 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: FES0844
All Americans should be protesting in the streets.

YES!

4 posted on 02/23/2008 1:08:38 PM PST by muggs
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To: ricks_place

Just giving credit to the current deciders.


5 posted on 02/23/2008 1:10:30 PM PST by mdefranc
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Yep, and barring this crash and the deaths, this Illegal would be stopped, ticketed and left to go on her way. The ticket would be unpaid and this uninsured, unqualified driver would be free to continue to drive until AFTER having such a damaging accident - The only way she would ever be properly apprehended.
6 posted on 02/23/2008 1:13:41 PM PST by Doneit
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"The van driver who witnesses says hit a school bus, killing four children,
appeared in court Friday. She gave her name as Alianiss Nunez Morales,
but authorities say this is not her real name."

"Illegal aliens commit 12 murders every day in the U.S. and kill another 13 daily through drunk driving incidents.
That's more than 9,000 people killed every year by illegal aliens.
On average eight children are sexually abused by illegal aliens every day
that's over 2,920 annually. And that's just a small portion of the illegal alien crime wave.
some 4.1 million crimes by illegal aliens. "



7 posted on 02/23/2008 1:15:13 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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Raises issues? The issue has been raised over and over, time and time again and nothing is done. Raises the issue? How many Americans have to be killed by illegals before we consider the question raised?


8 posted on 02/23/2008 1:15:29 PM PST by WildcatClan (Real Marxism you can believe in. Yes, we can. Si, se puedo.)
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“The porosity of the border has been a problem since before Reagan.”

I’d say it’s been a problem since the 1790s, but far lower populations and fewer incentive for Mexicans to enter the US in the agricultural days probably made things seem like a very minor problem.

But all the things that were supposed to reduce illegal immigration: the Maquiladora plants starting in the 1960s, NAFTA in the early ‘90s, with the successive implementation of various provisions, have only served to increased illegal entries by large margins.

As a serious problem, I think it started post-WWII when Eisenhower had to deal with it. Since, business interests on both sides of the border have been allowed to determine policies and we have what we have today.


9 posted on 02/23/2008 1:16:39 PM PST by Will88 ( The Worst Case Scenario: McCain with a Dhimm majority in the House and Senate)
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I wish to hell it would “bring up the issue” of government malfeasance and corruption.


10 posted on 02/23/2008 1:16:56 PM PST by VR-21
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WOW What a revalation “crash raises issues on fake ID’s”.
I’m sure family memebers and parents of these law breakers consider this an issue to. Political skunks muddying the waters for us so we don’t come back at them 10 fold.


11 posted on 02/23/2008 1:17:06 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Id rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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what people don't realize is that when these illegals are here without proper id's they sure as hell don't have proper insurance....so when they injure you are kill you, its all up to YOUR insurance......

how many years have I been paying insurance "just in case" and these people don't even have legit driving licenses let alone insurance....

12 posted on 02/23/2008 1:20:58 PM PST by cherry
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Yeah, but we deported them back then.


13 posted on 02/23/2008 1:22:06 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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Yeah, but we deported them back then.

Deported? President Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to illegal immigrants when he signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 that affected mostly Latino immigrants living in the United States since 1982.

14 posted on 02/23/2008 1:27:21 PM PST by ricks_place
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"The porosity of the border has been a problem since before Reagan.

So, that makes it alright? No one can step up to the plate and change this sorry situation just because it's been going on a long time?

15 posted on 02/23/2008 1:40:59 PM PST by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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The porosity of the border has been a problem since before Reagan and Reagan granted amnesty! The border issue was not created by Bush and McCain but was born of neglect over decades. The solutions cannot be implemented by any President absent congressional funding. My post responsed to an unfair blame Bush and McCain comment. I had thought that only “the leftists believe that every sparrows’ fall from the sky is a direct responsibility of George W Bush!”


16 posted on 02/23/2008 1:54:38 PM PST by ricks_place
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I have heard that Reagan’s recently-published “Diaries” show that he signed the amnesty on the understanding that Congress would fund vastly-increased border enforcement. The funding never came.

But, unless you’re trying to make Bush and McCain look good by denigrating Reagan, all that is irrelevant. The question is: How have our CURRENT leaders addressed the problem? The answer is: both Bush and McCain favor no coherent enforcement.


17 posted on 02/23/2008 1:55:23 PM PST by mdefranc
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No. I’m not blaming the past on this President. I am, however, blaming him for not doing nearly enough to fix it.


18 posted on 02/23/2008 1:58:24 PM PST by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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mdefranc wrote:
Thanks for open borders, President Bush and Senator McCain.”

The blood of the children is on their smug faces.


19 posted on 02/23/2008 2:02:22 PM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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Nice try.

When Reagan faced the problem it was a wet spot on the pavement, and Congress and the bureaucrats promised to wipe it up.

Now it’s a flood 20 feet deep, and McCain and Bush and ALL the Democrats are opening the water mains all the way.


20 posted on 02/23/2008 2:20:45 PM PST by oldbill
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