Crash raises issues of fake IDs, immigration

Star Tribune ^ | February 23, 2008 | JEAN HOPFENSPERGER,

[mdefranc]

The van driver who witnesses says hit a school bus, killing four children, appeared in court Friday. She gave her name as Alianiss Nunez Morales, but authorities say this is not her real name.

There's a brisk trade in false documents in the state, spurring some legislators to call for crackdowns....

[mdefranc]

Thanks for open borders, President Bush and Senator McCain.

[FES0844]

All Americans should be protesting in the streets.
When will our LAWS be ENFORCED??????????????????

[ricks_place]

Thanks for open borders, President Bush and Senator McCain. The porosity of the border has been a problem since before Reagan.

[muggs]

All Americans should be protesting in the streets.

YES!

[mdefranc]

Just giving credit to the current deciders.

[Doneit]

Yep, and barring this crash and the deaths, this Illegal would be stopped, ticketed and left to go on her way. The ticket would be unpaid and this uninsured, unqualified driver would be free to continue to drive until AFTER having such a damaging accident - The only way she would ever be properly apprehended.

[Diogenesis]

"The van driver who witnesses says hit a school bus, killing four children,
appeared in court Friday. She gave her name as Alianiss Nunez Morales,
but authorities say this is not her real name."

"Illegal aliens commit 12 murders every day in the U.S. and kill another 13 daily through drunk driving incidents.
That's more than 9,000 people killed every year by illegal aliens.
On average eight children are sexually abused by illegal aliens every day
that's over 2,920 annually. And that's just a small portion of the illegal alien crime wave.
some 4.1 million crimes by illegal aliens. "

[WildcatClan]

Raises issues? The issue has been raised over and over, time and time again and nothing is done. Raises the issue? How many Americans have to be killed by illegals before we consider the question raised?

[Will88]

“The porosity of the border has been a problem since before Reagan.”

I’d say it’s been a problem since the 1790s, but far lower populations and fewer incentive for Mexicans to enter the US in the agricultural days probably made things seem like a very minor problem.

But all the things that were supposed to reduce illegal immigration: the Maquiladora plants starting in the 1960s, NAFTA in the early ‘90s, with the successive implementation of various provisions, have only served to increased illegal entries by large margins.

As a serious problem, I think it started post-WWII when Eisenhower had to deal with it. Since, business interests on both sides of the border have been allowed to determine policies and we have what we have today.

[VR-21]

I wish to hell it would “bring up the issue” of government malfeasance and corruption.

[ronnie raygun]

WOW What a revalation “crash raises issues on fake ID’s”.
I’m sure family memebers and parents of these law breakers consider this an issue to. Political skunks muddying the waters for us so we don’t come back at them 10 fold.

[cherry]

what people don't realize is that when these illegals are here without proper id's they sure as hell don't have proper insurance....so when they injure you are kill you, its all up to YOUR insurance......

how many years have I been paying insurance "just in case" and these people don't even have legit driving licenses let alone insurance....

[Emperor Palpatine]

Yeah, but we deported them back then.

[ricks_place]

Yeah, but we deported them back then.

Deported? President Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to illegal immigrants when he signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 that affected mostly Latino immigrants living in the United States since 1982.

[MizSterious]

"The porosity of the border has been a problem since before Reagan.

So, that makes it alright? No one can step up to the plate and change this sorry situation just because it's been going on a long time?

[ricks_place]

The porosity of the border has been a problem since before Reagan and Reagan granted amnesty! The border issue was not created by Bush and McCain but was born of neglect over decades. The solutions cannot be implemented by any President absent congressional funding. My post responsed to an unfair blame Bush and McCain comment. I had thought that only “the leftists believe that every sparrows’ fall from the sky is a direct responsibility of George W Bush!”

[mdefranc]

I have heard that Reagan’s recently-published “Diaries” show that he signed the amnesty on the understanding that Congress would fund vastly-increased border enforcement. The funding never came.

But, unless you’re trying to make Bush and McCain look good by denigrating Reagan, all that is irrelevant. The question is: How have our CURRENT leaders addressed the problem? The answer is: both Bush and McCain favor no coherent enforcement.

[MizSterious]

No. I’m not blaming the past on this President. I am, however, blaming him for not doing nearly enough to fix it.

[redstateconfidential]

mdefranc wrote:
Thanks for open borders, President Bush and Senator McCain.”

The blood of the children is on their smug faces.

[oldbill]

Nice try.

When Reagan faced the problem it was a wet spot on the pavement, and Congress and the bureaucrats promised to wipe it up.

Now it’s a flood 20 feet deep, and McCain and Bush and ALL the Democrats are opening the water mains all the way.

[mdefranc]

Many details of this needless tragedy are linked at http://michellemalkin.com/

[ANGGAPO]

Bet that congress had no idea that this was coming. Maryland is just finding out the disastrous results of licenses to illegals.

[southernerwithanattitude]

One thing that has happened since this President took office is the attack of 9-11-01.

To leave the border “open” since then is criminal to me. We have been attacked and 3000 of our countrymen have been murdered. We have a 2000 mile long border that he has refused to secure.

I have supported this President through thick and thin but I refuse to go along with this plan to deminish my childrens safety and wellbeing.

[rbosque]

Well put.

[org.whodat]

There's a brisk trade in false documents in the state, spurring some legislators to call for crackdowns....

I think we have lost something like ten times as many people killed by illegals since 9/11 than were killed on 9/11 and these brilliant legislators are spurred to action.

Vote their rears out of office.

[rolling_stone]

The illegal problem will be solved soon all the presidential candidates promise to give amnesty to these lawbreakers so there will be no more illegals...

[Safari]

Illegals = criminals the minute they are in our borders! They have broke the law from the get-go. It is not fair to the nation’s LEGAL IMMIGRANTS because some of the issues are evident as we increase the demand for the Federal Gov’t to crack down and enforce the law.

What stops a person with a suspended driver’s license from driving? After living in Texas, I know many legal people there who just plain are ignorant and risk NOT GETTING a Driver’s License just because it is “so expensive” as they put it. Who is going to make them get insurance OR keep it? The State isn’t going to send out patrol to confiscate a vehicle or person just because they don’t have insurance! It generally takes an accident or traffic violation to get caught (as well as this woman didn’t have a valid driver’s license & to obtain you must pass a test).

When family and friends are willing to risk allowing them to use their vehicles, that too is a problem. If you ever sell a vehicle privately, watch out because often they do not transfer the title which later can cause you headaches and heartaches.

Illegal aliens have come up with many “creative ways” to commit fraudulent crimes and the theft of this young woman’s identification is one of the most intrusive. Do you understand what this young woman may have to endure because someone “stole her id”?

The only thing that will stop criminals from being criminals, whether legal or not, is the laws. Even criminals commit crimes within the punitive system!

NO! this illegal woman and any of her illegal cohorts should be held accountable to the laws. Those who aid & abet should, too, be held accountable. This includes employers, landlords/financial instituations and public systems.

There is not one state that can pass laws that go against the Federal law. It is time for Chertoff and Co (DHS/ICE) to be able to do their jobs. Sue them if you have to Chertoff!

[KeyLargo]

‘BORDER WAR’ movie released on DVD

http://www.topix.com/forum/san-diego/TDHHRK7766IJ9D2O8

5 stars A Must See

“Unbiased documentary, showing both points of view of the issue. Contains actual scenes of border patrol chases and apprehensions of illegal aliens. Includes interviews of residents living in the border area and comments by a retired 27 year vetran agent of the USBP, David J. Stoddard. It also has a narrative from a female of Mexican decent who joined the Minuteman organization and Enrique Morones her opposite. He holds dual citizenship from both Mexico and the U.S. and advocates amnesty. Every bit as interesting as it’s predecessor “Cochise County,USA.”

I rented the DVD yesterday. I can see why MSM ignored it, and why the three stooges presidential candidates do not want it seen by the sheeple.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16618