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Mayor of Las Vegas may have opened multistate water war
North County Times ^ | 2/17/2008 | North County Times

Posted on 02/23/2008 4:49:44 PM PST by americanophile

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To: SandRat; All
Mayor must be ignorant of his American History -— “The Lincoln County War” was over water rights. He better re-read the end result.


Well not exactly, it was over a meat supply contract to the US govt....:^)

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/NM-LincolnCountyWar.html

..and boiled down to a war between an Irish and an English store owner... nothing new under the sun...:^)

Was just in Lincoln, NM last summer...:^)

41 posted on 02/23/2008 7:46:33 PM PST by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats)
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To: LasVegasMac
Read his bio, he was raised in Philadelphia, Pa. I stand by my point.

Why should I choose my words? That’s a condescending statement to say the least.

Mayor Oscar Goodman=Stupid North East Lib

42 posted on 02/24/2008 6:42:00 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (Vote Obillary! And we'll be picking shrapnel out of our butts for decades!)
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To: Seruzawa
DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING !

NO more calls, please.

We have a winner!

43 posted on 02/24/2008 6:57:39 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: americanophile

Why not just let who owns the rights sell the water to the highest bidder at a free-market price?

The side benefit is that lettuce farming in the desert might diminish, and we ended up buying lettuce grown in Mexico—so we won’t “need” to have the illegals come here to pick it.


44 posted on 02/24/2008 7:18:08 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Waiting for tagline...)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
Why should I choose my words?

My bad for not making clear that this was in jest, just pointing out our good Mayor's past mob ties......

Sorry.

45 posted on 02/24/2008 9:37:49 AM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: Beelzebubba

...but who “owns” the river?? That’s the whole point, and precisely why we have a federally brokered water compact.


46 posted on 02/24/2008 12:59:48 PM PST by americanophile
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To: americanophile

...but who “owns” the river?? That’s the whole point, and precisely why we have a federally brokered water compact.


I agree, as long as one of the conditions to the compact is that the water must be made available to the highest bidder. No sweetheart deals for agriculture.


47 posted on 02/24/2008 1:14:00 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Waiting for tagline...)
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To: LasVegasMac; alice_in_bubbaland
My bad for not making clear that this was in jest,

Mac, it was clear that you were speaking in jest. No reason to apologize.

48 posted on 02/24/2008 2:08:44 PM PST by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: Beelzebubba
For argument’s sake...what do we do about agriculture under a highest bidder system? Especially small farms (provided there are any these days). Ag is big business these days, but I’m not sure agriculture can afford to outbid Las Vegas casinos...and no one can outbid large municipalities - be they Las Vegas or Los Angeles. The result could be the abandonment of one the most important agricultural regions in the U.S. - the Imperial Valley, which relies almost totally on river water.
49 posted on 02/24/2008 2:43:33 PM PST by americanophile
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To: americanophile

The result could be the abandonment of one the most important agricultural regions in the U.S. - the Imperial Valley, which relies almost totally on river water.


So the valley reverts to its natural state, we eat more pricey lettuce grown in Mexico, and the illegals stay home to pick it. Or farmers will use more conservative irrigation techniques, or grow higher value crops.

Whoever values the water more will have it, and there will never be a “shortage,” just higher prices.

Maybe the Bellagio will continue its fountains, but many LV homeowners will replace their lawns to avoid $500/mo water bills.

It’s all about Basic Economics.


50 posted on 02/24/2008 2:56:51 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Waiting for tagline...)
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To: americanophile
what do we do about agriculture under a highest bidder system?

Good point.

Another point that I wanted to make in my earlier post but forget to...

Another reason that California needs to start taking water out the Pacific Ocean is that action will lower the ocean levels, world wide, right? (oh man, that will drive the eco-nazi's bonkers!).

But that is actually doing the world a huge favor. By lowering the ocean level's, we are making room for the extra water from all those melting glaciers, right?

No more worry about flooding the low lying errors across the globe. Problem solved.

Now, I just need AlGore to sign off on it........

51 posted on 02/24/2008 3:02:01 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: Beelzebubba

I don’t necessarily disagree with you, I’m just playing Devil’s advocate:

What about lost jobs, etc., when the Valley reverts to desert? What about the national security arguments of outsourcing our food production? What about the health concerns of having 3rd world nations without health and safety codes growing our food?


52 posted on 02/24/2008 3:02:24 PM PST by americanophile
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To: LasVegasMac
Hahaha...they would just accuse you of reducing the salinity of the ocean, thereby reducing it’s cooling tendency and density, which would slow the oceanic conveyor and add to both sea level rise and the melting of sea ice which would eventually lead to an ice age...you can’t win.
53 posted on 02/24/2008 3:11:20 PM PST by americanophile
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To: ridesthemiles

The State water engineer is still in their way....for a while.


54 posted on 02/24/2008 3:13:29 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: americanophile

>>What about lost jobs, etc., when the Valley reverts to desert?

Better than the alternative of communities without water they would pay more for to survive.

>>What about the national security arguments of outsourcing our food production?

There’s plenty of land for food to sustain the population, and I think we’ll do fine if there were a lettuce embargo.

>What about the health concerns of having 3rd world nations without health and safety codes growing our food?

Inspections, of course. It’s not as if we don’t already import plenty of food from Mexico and Central America.


55 posted on 02/24/2008 4:20:19 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Waiting for tagline...)
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