Posted on 02/24/2008 4:41:29 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Sunday, February 24th, 2008
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): McCain campaign manager Rick Davis; Govs. Mark Sanford, R-S.C., Tim Kaine, D-Va., Jon Corzine, D-N.J., and Tim Pawlenty, R-Minn.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Ralph Nader, consumer advocate and former presidential candidate.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): THIS WEEK (ABC): Sens. Joe Biden, D-Del., and Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas.
LATE EDITION (CNN) : Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee (R); National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell; Robert Bennett, attorney for McCain; Govs. Ed Rendell, D-Pa., Kathleen Sebelius, D-Kan., and Tim Pawlenty, R-Minn.; Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb.
General Honore?
I’m listening to this idiot Nader talking to Potato Head right now. I doubt even the most insane moonbat will vote for him over Obama this time. His cousins might not even vote for him.
Clinton Inc and aging feminists are the only people who thought that HRC was unbeatable.
Commentators act puzzled by her sinking poll numbers in each state where she campaigns. This proves to me that commentators refuse to look reality in the face. She tanks as people get to watch and hear her. She was high in early polls
on name recognition, like Giuliani. Barack is definitely the dems’ choice.
One of the slim hopes for McCain is that the dems have internecine war at their convention, and McCain picks a charismatic running-mate.
Besides all the ways that media will attack McCain, you can add health ‘issues.’ Remember the drumbeat about Cheney’s heart?
Looks like my early post that was a joke:
To: Alas Babylon!
Let me guess,Ralph is announcing he is running for president. Is there an untapped kook fringe I missed out there?....
4 posted on 02/24/2008 7:50:30 AM EST by Nekman (The MSM has been S.O.S for decades!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
has come to pass,and the joke is on US!
One of my grandson’s social studies teacher says communism has never been ‘done right’. That teacher also wants ‘free health care’.
What you personally feel about McCain is wholly irrelevant to the point here. I understand you hate him and why. However that is blinding you to the political challenges the Democrats face. It is possible to enthusiastically hate McCain and still rationally discuss the problems Obama faces.
Obama has some serious political negatives to overcome. It would be wise for people not to ignore Obama's negatives just because they hate John McCain.
The fact is Obama is a radical Leftist running for President in a predominately Conservative-Moderate nation. That is going to be a tougher sell to the public at large then it has been to the Democrat faithful.
For all the talk about primary turn out, everyone keeps overlooking the fact that it was considerable smaller then the turnout will be for the General Election.
McGovern had the enthusiastic, young hip vote all sown up too but Nixon still buried him electorally. And while McCain is no Nixon and Obama no McGovern, the electoral dynamic still remains. Radicals do not do well in US National Elections and Obama is a serious radical.
So while structurally this is obviously the Democrats election to lose, it may be the public at large will see Obama as simply too radical to be trusted.
I don't have specifics, but I believe one of the bills Barack Obama did sponsor in the Illinois legislature was something to the effect that, if a fetus survived an abortion and was breathing on its own, it is legal in the state of Illinois for the doctor and staff to stand by and offer no assistance to the child; it's okay to let it die.
That might not be an issue in the Democrat primary season, but it might be a health-care issue to conservatives and moderates. I realize that I should have specifics to cite, but I'm working off memory here and can't find a bill number to reference. Maybe that makes me qualified to get a job with the New York Times.
Obama’s Pastor: Obama “First” Honest Presidential Candidate
Trinity United Church of Christ official bulletin, March 18 2007
Letter to the New York Times (excerpt)
I have never been exposed to that kind of duplicitous behavior before, and I want to write you publicly to let you know that I do not approve of it and will not be party to any further smearing of the name, the reputation, the integrity or the character of perhaps this nation’s first (and maybe even only) honest candidate offering himself for public service as the person to occupy the Oval Office.
Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. , Senior Pastor
Trinity United Church of Christ
http://www.tucc.org/upload/tuccbulletin_mar18.pdf
Here is another TUCC official bulletin, dated March 13 2005
Well, the truth is that we have a President who is also in favor of Corporate Interests over the rights of Ordinary Citizens. Therefore, President Shrub has renominated the same 20 nominees who were denied in the last term. The Senate has begun deliberations on at least the first few of these 20 nominees. Consider the track record of the first three nominees:
…The importance of these nominees far outlives the term of George W. Bush because these are lifetime appointments. I urge you to contact your Senators (Barack Obama and Richard Durbin) and ask them to vote to reject these 20 nominees again.
Action Items:
1. Contact your U.S. Senator and urge them to vote against the 20 nominees that Bush has renominated for the federal bench.
a. Barack Obama: 312-886-3506
b. Richard Durbin: 312-353-4952
2. DO NOT SHOP AT WAL-MART OR SAM’S CLUB
http://www.tucc.org/pdf/bulletin_03_13_05.pdf
This seems legal (not legal advice, we are not attorneys) as long as the church reports any expenditures associated with this lobbying effort. A church cannot advocate for a political candidate, but it can lobby against a judicial appointment.
501(c)(3) charitable, etc., organizations. Limited lobbying to influence Senate confirmation of judicial appointments is permitted.
Attempts to influence Senate confirmation of a federal judicial appointment are not considered campaign intervention, which is specifically forbidden by section 501(c)(3). However, because attempts to influence Senate confirmation are considered lobbying, they are subject to the rules on lobbying:
* Section 501(c)(3) organizations may engage in lobbying in furtherance of their exempt purposes.
* The lobbying may not be a substantial part of the organization’s activities.
http://www.irs.gov/charities/article/0,,id=141372,00.html
Official bulletin, January 21 2007 cites “U.S. Imperialism”
I use his words today on the third Sunday of a New Year to keep before you the painful truth of who we are and where it is we are in this racist United States of America! What’s goin’ on?
We have lost over 3,000 boys and girls in an illegal and unjust war, and the media is on a feeding frenzy about Barack Obama’s church. Where is the outrage about the 3,000 dead American military personnel and the 600,000 dead Iraqi civilians who are dead for no reason other than greed and ego? What’s goin’ on?
The President’s “New Plan” (more troops, more death and more war) promises an insane escalation — in Iraq, Iran and beyond! With the torture of Abu Ghraib, the complete destructions of cities like Fallujah and over 600,000 deaths due to collateral damage, the President complained in his speech that there had been “too many restrictions” on the actions of the United States Forces in the Iraq war.
http://www.tucc.org/upload/tuccbulletin_jan21.pdf
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Reliable Sources is going to talk about the NYSlimes hit job on McCain. Panel to discuss includes:
Sklar (HuffPo); Frum (NRO); Sesno from GW University.
The GW Guy says it should have been published and part of it was legitimate.
Frum: Lots of words but doesn’t say much.
Sklar: Good reporting got lost because of the sex lies.
No one called the NYTimes a slime machine; I’m embarrassed that NO one on this panel will slime the slimes, but I guess journo’s will always stick up for other journo’s no matter how slimey they are.
All agree the anonymous sources was stupid and they shouldn’t have done it. Frum says the story will never be ready because there is NO there there; no pattern, nothing.
One journo actually defends the NYTimes and says that there was NO attempt for the times to undermine McCain on this storyline Yeah right.
At the end of the segment, all these panel members defended the NYTimes as a good paper.
Next topic is how McCain handled the whole thing (shows some segments of the news conference). Frum said that McCain handled the aftermath pretty well. The GW guy says that tried and true strategy of attacking the messenger. Kurtz said it wasn’t a smear. I call BS on that comment.
Timmy is not asking about issues, just trying to talk Nader out of running.
I did not know Nader was an anti-semite.
It’s mind-blowing that Potato Head is giving him so much free air.
I understand, but I think the decision was made by Charlie Crist (probably for a political favor down the road) and NOT because someone ordered him to do so.
I don’t like promoting the idea that there are mysterious “puppetmasters” who control who runs. That is the easiest way to get people discouraged and/or apathetic.
Part of the problem we had this year is that a lot of conservative potential candidates never stepped up to the plate. Haley Barbour, Mike Pence, Jeff Sessions, Mark Sanford, etc. failed to step forward. We had to choose from the ones who did decide to run.
It’s not fair to blame McCain because he isn’t Mike Pence. He is who he is, and he won the elections. Conservatives would have done better to decide on ONE candidate (I personally think it should have been Romney) and gotten behind that guy from the outset.
Instead, we waffled around and looked at Thompson, who never got his campaign off the ground, and then when the influential conservatives finally realized McCain might be the winner they made a too-late push for Romney.
The other thing is that we had entirely too much griping about the quality of the candidates from conservative talk radio, pundits, and even on various internet forums, including this one. That depressed the grass roots from solidly getting behind a candidate.
So, McCain managed to hang in there and ended up the nominee. I choose to support him because he is the BETTER potential president when you compare him to either Hillary or Obama. And the thought of either of those two democrats reviewing the troops is enough to get me pretty enthusiastic about McCain. (And you KNOW how many bad things I have said about McCain since 2000.)
There is always a chance, but we will have a fawning MSM protecting and defending Obama and attacking McCain. There will also be the historic nature of the contest with a black [read bi-racial] American having a shot at being President. The MSM will play it up big with the spin that America can put its racial divisions behind it with his election. It will be used as a measure to see how far we have come as a nation.
That is the man!
Nader...his fifteen minutes were up a long time ago.
I noticed you have a lot of ammo on McCain (who doesn’t); Where are the Obama facts?
I just wish he would drill down on the anti-semitism. Just like we did around here during the GOP primary - smoking out religious or ethnic bigots is a good thing.
re: Obama
Do you have any voting records (Illinois and the hill)?
He is who he is, and he won the elections. Conservatives would have done better to decide on ONE candidate (I personally think it should have been Romney) and gotten behind that guy from the outset.
Instead, we waffled around and looked at Thompson, who never got his campaign off the ground, and then when the influential conservatives finally realized McCain might be the winner they made a too-late push for Romney.
Yes. Thompson was DOA. Romney did a great job of proving himself under battlefield conditions. I have him as the clear front-runner for 2012, and I am picking my guy for 2012 by convention time THIS year. Unless someone else shows up who is conservative on the bread and butter issues, AND can pay for his own campaign!, I’m going with Romney to unseat Obama in 2012.
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