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Is Kosovo Serbia? We ask a historian
guardian.co.uk ^ | February 26 2008 | Noel Malcolm

Posted on 02/26/2008 12:42:59 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Edited on 03/10/2008 3:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

"Kosovo is Serbia", "Ask any historian" read the unlikely placards, waved by angry Serb demonstrators in Brussels on Sunday. ...

History, for the Serbs, started in the early 7th century, when they settled in the Balkans. Their power base was outside Kosovo, which they fully conquered in the early 13th, so the claim that Kosovo was the "cradle" of the Serbs is untrue.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clintonswar; dhimmapologist; dhimmitude; europe; illegalimmigrants; islamofascists; jihad; jihadapologist; kosovo; serbia; worldhistory
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To: NoLibZone

Too late.


21 posted on 02/26/2008 2:23:45 PM PST by tbw2 (Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Aztlan won’t be American forever, thanks to the idiotic precedent set in the Kosovo land theft.


22 posted on 02/26/2008 2:25:15 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: riverdawg; Tailgunner Joe

The Sword of Truth will never bite on the mind of Tailgunner Joe.


23 posted on 02/26/2008 2:25:45 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: Witch-king of Angmar
This guy is a paid anti-Serb propagandist.

That will make Dhimmigunner Joe angry since he's doing it for free.

24 posted on 02/26/2008 2:27:23 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: RightWhale

Gavrilo Princip, the guy who shot the Archduke, was a Bosnian Serb. He was caught at the scene. I think one of the co-conspirators in the plot was a Bosnian Muslim.


25 posted on 02/26/2008 2:35:34 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Greg F
250 years. So only as Serbian as say . . . all of the states of the United States are American.

But that was more than 500 years ago

The Vice-Royality of New Spain was more recent and lasted longer.

Interesting. If present Serbia can claim successor state rights to Kosovo, then Mexico has the same claim to the Southwest USA (even more, since Spain actually recognised Mexico as the successor state.)


26 posted on 02/26/2008 2:39:55 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Never say yer sorry, mister. It's a sign of weakness)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Actually, Spain didn’t recognize Mexico at all, let alone as its successor state, until 3 years AFTER the Texas Revolution.
If the Texas Revolution was illegal, so was Mexico’s revolution from Spain.


27 posted on 02/26/2008 2:50:05 PM PST by CivilWarguy (CivilWarGuy)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Well I guess anyone who likes can succeed from anyone now and the US can’t complain. Southwest US will join Mexico. Southeast US will succeed and form the Confederacy. Hawaii and Alaska can go off on their own. It’s going to be an interesting new world.


28 posted on 02/26/2008 3:03:37 PM PST by monday
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To: Tailgunner Joe

America was “Indian” for a long time also. Yes, things do change.


29 posted on 02/26/2008 3:09:52 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: CivilWarguy

Treaty of Cordoba 1821


30 posted on 02/26/2008 3:14:25 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Never say yer sorry, mister. It's a sign of weakness)
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To: fish hawk
And before that it belonged to the birds and the bees.

Humans out now!

31 posted on 02/26/2008 3:46:32 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
During the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th centuries Kosovo, like Serbia, like most of Eastern, Central, Western and Northern Europe was still in the grip of "The Dark Ages".

Europe's great Renaissance didn't get going until the 13th century and probably didn't hit Serbia in full force until the 19th century.

So, yes, there is direct continuity and contact with Kosovo between 7th century and 13th century Serbia.

It was, to put it mildly, nasty all the way back.

32 posted on 02/26/2008 7:07:58 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: NoLibZone

Returned to whom? To Mexico, or to Spain?


33 posted on 02/26/2008 7:08:43 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: gitmogrunt

California was Russian territory. That other stuff in the Souf’ really wasn’t California. Full of Franciscans wearing Chinese robes you know ~ now that’s not Mexico!


34 posted on 02/26/2008 7:10:29 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: gitmogrunt

California was Russian territory. That other stuff in the Souf’ really wasn’t California. Full of Franciscans wearing Chinese robes you know ~ now that’s not Mexico!


35 posted on 02/26/2008 7:10:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Tailgunner Joe
You're reading it wrong. Patriotic Texicans (native people of Spanish descent as well as the illegal aliens then swarming over the place, and the legal immigrants) rose up and led a revolution against the evil dictator Santa Anna.

Much of central and Souvrn' Mexico followed.

The Texicans prevailed over Santa Anna's army. The remainder of the country failed to overthrow him and ended up languishing under Santa Anna's misrule off and on until 1876.

Think of the situation as a "failed revolution" where only some of the rebels against the dictator prevailed.

If the Texicans had received more American support in this effort there is no doubt all of Mexico would have been acquired by the United States in the 1800s.

36 posted on 02/26/2008 7:16:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The Euroweenies will always take the easy way out - appeasement - and then justify their actions with fine phrases.
37 posted on 02/26/2008 7:17:18 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Greg F
The 14th British colony was known as Canada! It was acquired sometime around 1754.

That's the 14th colony to which Jefferson referred.

Only part of that colony was acquired by the United States, and that didn't happen until the independent nation state of Virginia ceded its Western landclaims to them as part of the deal underlying the creation of the United States under the Articles of Confederation.

38 posted on 02/26/2008 7:24:16 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I'm listening to Osamabama telling us that if we recognize Kosovo we have an obligation to make sure it's not invaded.

That's the third country Obamasama has proposed making war against ~ Serbia! He wants to attack Serbia, and that's on top of Sudan, and the bombing of Pakistan.

This guy is one of the most bloodthirsty, aggressive imperialists we've ever had ~ since President Tyler ~ he promised to invade Mexico, take various provinces, and balance the budget.

39 posted on 02/26/2008 7:27:08 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: riverdawg
Actually, the Romans called the inhabitants of the Dalmatian coast "slavs". That's their word for "slaves" because that's what the Romans did ~ get slaves from FYR.

Some time in the 8th century BCE you would have had Romans going to Dalmatia to get cheap bedwarmers and field hands and calling them "slav".

That's about 1200 years earlier than your 4th century reference. I think what you are doing is confounding the arrival of slavs in the Eastern Empire in roughly the 6th century AD with the earlier experience Romans and Greeks had had with "slavs" in earlier centuries further West and North.

40 posted on 02/26/2008 7:32:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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