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Rove: Don't "Hussein" Obama
The Atlantic ^ | 2/27/08 | Marc Ambinder

Posted on 02/27/2008 6:35:46 AM PST by pissant

No less an authority figure than Karl Rove has warned Republican operatives from demagoguing Barack Obama's middle name.

At a closed door meeting of GOP state executive directors in late January, Rove said the safest way to refer to Obama would be to use his honorific, "Sen. Obama."

"The context was, you're not going to stimatize this guy. You shouldn't underestimate him," one of the executive directors said. Rove said that the use of "Barack Hussein Obama" would perpetuate the notion that Republicans were bigoted and would hurt the party.

Rove also said that Republicans should refer to Hillary Clinton as "Sen. Clinton," rather than "Hillary."

Right wing figures are set to ignore Rove's advice. Rush Limbaugh used Obama's middle name more than a year ago, and Ann Coulter regularly uses the middle name, once calling him "President Hussein." So does Michael Savage, who once asked whether Obama was a "so-called friendly Muslim" or one more "radical."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: barackhusseinobama; billcunningham; husseinobama; karlrove; larrysinclairsboy; obama; rove
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To: pissant

A couple of years ago, weren’t the Dems derisively using the middle name of a prominent Republican - I forget which one - who had an unusual middle name?


121 posted on 02/27/2008 7:30:58 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: dba.adabas
So once again, Karl....STFU... ...or was it Karl that I was speaking to...

Did your mother raise you to be so disrespectful, or did you learn it from your commanding officer?

122 posted on 02/27/2008 7:31:32 AM PST by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: NautiNurse
When your presidential campaign advisory resume matches that of Mr. Rove, perhaps we will take your comments a bit more seriously than an asinine noob.

Barely beating a terrible candidate like Al Gore (and Bush did beat Gore fair and square) is nothing to boast about. Especially when you had Ralph Nader's help.

Karl Rove gives thanks to the Democrats for nominating Gore and Kerry every day.

123 posted on 02/27/2008 7:32:04 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: shempy
Seriously, this is like a half of a step above calling him "poopy-pants".

If his middle name were PoopyPants then I'd be all for it. But come on! Hussein is his legal name.

124 posted on 02/27/2008 7:32:26 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Let's Roll
These times are WAY too dangerous for us to gloss over the fact that another muzzie symp has designs on the WH.

Yes, and anyone claiming to know the heart of a complete and udder stranger, is obviously shilling for him, or in some cases, simply anti-Iraq war. I have noticed a correlation among some of those here lecturing that "we are above name calling", have issues with Iraq and the WOT in the first place.

As a matter of fact, I have noticed some of the same names here completely destroying and smearing our own candidates running in the primaries with every little remote item, and now defending Hussein, everyday, vociferously.

BTW, where is the Hussein "Truth File", as Rudy and Romney were smeared with?
125 posted on 02/27/2008 7:33:07 AM PST by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
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To: societygirl
Who wants to elect someone President with the name “HUSSEIN” anywhere

Why would a middle name enter into the equation? If Ronald Reagan's middle name would have been Hitler or Satan or JoJo, would that have been a deal-breaker for you? A person's middle name says nothing. It is not an argument, it is pure emotional garbage.

126 posted on 02/27/2008 7:33:28 AM PST by shempy
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To: Clemenza

127 posted on 02/27/2008 7:34:07 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: pissant
I see, so saying "Hillary Rodham Clinton" is perfectly acceptable but "Barack Hussein Obama" isn't.

I sure hope Rove never "darkens the doors of the White House ever again."

128 posted on 02/27/2008 7:35:32 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

He’ll probably be a lobbyist for Global Warming (like Ken Mehlman is now) or La Raza (Like Juan Mccain’s adviser) soon enough.


129 posted on 02/27/2008 7:37:36 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: roses of sharon; Let's Roll

LOL, yikes, make that “utter”!


130 posted on 02/27/2008 7:37:38 AM PST by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
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To: pissant

I’m kind of partial to “Malcolm O”...


131 posted on 02/27/2008 7:37:41 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Because we have a candidate who wants to be the first woman president ahead of Hillary.

McCain is a lousy bastard of a candidate, but the chick-like behavior is emanating from those that are pushing the purely emotional attack of emphasizing Obama's middle name. There is no substance or logic, no rational argument, just "ooga booga! Scary name! HUSSEIN!! Like Sadaam!!! His dad was muslim!!! Oooga booga!" Even if those were valid points, they are obvious and need not be stated. The folks that have that concern are not voting for him anyway.

132 posted on 02/27/2008 7:38:14 AM PST by shempy
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To: shempy

Caution: Intellectual reasoning is highly unpopular here. Names and physical characteristics are the focus for political discussion.


133 posted on 02/27/2008 7:38:27 AM PST by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: roses of sharon

I dunno - it painted a more amusing picture before. :-D


134 posted on 02/27/2008 7:38:39 AM PST by SlayerOfBunnies (An Indian friend of mine wishes to remind everyone... Indians <> muslims)
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To: NautiNurse

I think the better question is “are you trying to be my nanny?”

Would you be more happier with...

Gee, Karl, would you please be quiet and not worry so much about how I address Hillary or Obama?

If so, then I will consider yourself appeased, albeit, apparantly missing the point...

waahhhhhhh!!!


135 posted on 02/27/2008 7:40:20 AM PST by dba.adabas
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To: SlayerOfBunnies

Perhaps we could just use hi initials? B-Ho?


136 posted on 02/27/2008 7:40:58 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Greg F
Whatever, that’s part of the act, McCain gets pissy, the guy gets pissed at McCain... McCain won’t be able to stop these guys. Get used to hearing; Barack HUSSEIN Obama.
137 posted on 02/27/2008 7:41:56 AM PST by societygirl
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To: NautiNurse

Respect is earned, not automatic.

When someone pulls a PC stunt like that traitor to the cause Rove just did, he’s lost any respect he may have previously earned.

Its bad enough we have to deal with this crap from the left...now we have “thought police” on FR.


138 posted on 02/27/2008 7:42:29 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: pissant
I have to agree with the majority of the sentiments expressed on this post. The last 7 years, with President Bush continually attempting to be nice to these people, should serve as an example that being polite, nice, and respectful, serves no purpose.

I am tired of being called a facist or a Nazi. I am tired of people saying I want to harm/starve/kill children or the eldery. This is my country and men such as Adams, Washington, Lee, Grant, Audie Murphy, Nimitz, Chesty Puller, Ike, Patton, MacArthur, Pershing, Gridley, McCandless, and yes - even John McCain along with his father and grandfather, risked their lives so that I may live free, with liberty not license. Many millions more unnamed soldiers, sailors, Marines, and airmen risked their lives, with millions paying the ultimate sacrifice, so that I may be able to say what I want.

They don't like the use of Hussein? Then explain the reason why we should not use it. Explain the connotation, the connection. Are you or are you not proud of the name? Explain yourself, Senator B. Hussein Obama! I say this as my right as an American citizen. By my right as a free man, established not by men or government but by God. I served in the United States Navy to not only protect that right for myself but also for my fellow citizens and - hopefully - eventually - for the entire world. And no one - not Rove, not Obama, not anyone on Free Republic - will silence me nor tell me what I can say or when I can say it.

139 posted on 02/27/2008 7:43:28 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: shempy

Does the name Hillary Rodham Clinton ring a bell? Or Franklin Delano Roosevelt? Jesse Lee Peterson? Martin Luther King? Ronald Wilson Reagan? William Jefferson Clinton?


140 posted on 02/27/2008 7:43:42 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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