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Foreign Dental Work Put To Test
WBNS-10TV ^ | 27 Feb, 2008 | 10tv investigative team

Posted on 02/27/2008 5:42:59 PM PST by Patriotic Thunder

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Chris Collier has been a patient of Dr. Dave Rummel for 30 years.

When it comes to teeth, Collier is more concerned about his health than his smile.

"The reason I come here is because I know I can trust the dentist I have," Collier said. "I know I can get good workmanship."

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Rummel is one of the few dentists in central Ohio who makes his own crowns, bridges and dentures, but most other dentists rely on outside dental labs, 10 Investigates' Lindsey Seavert reported.

The labs can be down the street or even overseas, increasingly outsourcing work to India, Mexico and China. Chinese imports, like jewelry and toys, have been under heavy scrutiny for the last year because of lead concerns.

The dental community is concerned that unsafe metals have reached their industry, too.

"It's one thing if it's a toy a child plays with for 20 minutes. It's another thing if it is somebody's mouth for a lifetime," Rummel said. "There is an issue here."

10 Investigates obtained a letter from the National Association of Dental Laboratories that outlined the concerns. The organization told the Food and Drug Administration that outsourcing would increase because dental work created overseas is cheaper.

Even more of a concern is that dental labs or mostly "mom and pop" shops are unregulated in Ohio and 46 other states. Because of that, labs can outsource and no one may ever know, Seavert reported.

"Currently, laboratories that are outsourcing work overseas are required to disclose that to their dentist through existing FDA regulations but that is where it stops," said Bennett Napier of the NADL. "That disclosure does not have to pass on to the patient."

10 Investigates learned the deception goes one step further. Sometimes labs don't tell dentists, leaving them to unknowingly place foreign products in patient's mouths.

In the U.S., the materials in dental work are FDA approved. It is supposed to be that way in foreign countries but the FDA has no way to enforce it, Seavert reported.

The NADL said the FDA approached them first in 2004 and then in 2007, concerned about the increasing number of imported dental devices passing U.S. borders and acknowledged the need to better enforce dental lab regulations.

With millions of products and not enough manpower, the work crosses borders to places like Ravenna, Ohio. There, a 73-year-old woman hired a lawyer to sue her dentist. It began when she received a new dental bridge last year. The pain became so severe that she could not chew.

"She began to have some pretty significant complications and reactions and infection that stemmed from the restoration that ultimately had to be removed," Napier said.

The woman, who requested anonymity, told 10 Investigates that she later discovered her bridge was made in China. Worried, she had a lab test it for hazardous materials.

The lab determined that the porcelain filed away in her mouth contained lead. She has since undergone two surgeries, Seavert reported.

With 300 unregulated dental labs in Ohio and an estimated 7 million crowns coming into the country each year, 10 Investigates wondered how much a threat lead is in outsourced dental work.

We ordered eight crowns from four labs in China that advertise in industry magazines. With help from Rummel's lab, we received our product 10 days later.

Only one lab identified materials in the crowns. 10 Investigates first used a device that screens for lead. Of the eight, one crown came up positive.

We sent our sample to a Cleveland lab - NSL Analytics - to provide scientific proof. They specialize in testing metals and began by separating the porcelain from the metal.

The crown is diluted in a test tube that becomes a solution chemists test for lead. The machines give an instant reading of lead. 10 Investigates' results came back at 210 parts per million. The Ravenna woman's bridge measured 160 parts per million.

"We don't know what the FDA or the American Dental Association considers to be a risk as far as lead content," said Carm D'Agostino, a chemist.

With no known research on lead in dental work, the lab can only compare to toy standards.

Toys leaching lead over 90 parts per million are hazardous, so what about 210 parts per million in your mouth?

"I guess that tells me I need to be a little bit more concerned about other potential sources of lead," said Dr. Marcel Casavant, who runs central Ohio's lead program and poison control center. "I never would have guessed somebody would have put lead into a piece or a part installed into a human being."

Casavant said adults can live with lead poisoning for years and not know it.

"The symptoms are what we call non-specific - a little ache or a pain - abnormal bowel function," Casavant said.

Even high blood pressure and kidney trouble could be symptoms, according to Casavant.

He said he would never link lead poisoning to dental work but would have to add it to his list of questions when asking people what kind of dental work has occurred.

The NADL said that 10 Investigates' findings prove that the FDA needs to do more.

"It reinforces the concerns we have as an industry and concerns the FDA expressed to us that the potential is there," Napier said.

The NADL letter asks the FDA to track dental work from foreign labs to patient records. They want the FDA to register all labs, require them to disclose where they get their dental work and label what materials are in it.

The Ohio Dental Board admitted that is not sure what is happening in the state's roughly 300 labs and has no plans to regulate them. Lili Reitz, the director of Ohio's dental board, said the burden relies on the dentist.

"Ignorance is not a defense when you are ultimately responsible for what is going into the mouths of the patients that you serve," Reitz said.

Rummel said that 10 Investigates' lead findings only prove outsourcing comes with a risk.

"If a medical device is made out of a foreign country, I think the patient should know," Rummel said.

He recommends that people ask their dentist where their work is made.

"I think you can't really get something for nothing and I think (if) we start going down that road, we all suffer," Rummel said.

In response to our story, the Ohio Dental Board on Wednesday adopted a recommendation to the dentists they regulate.

They are asking dentists to give labs a form that would require the labs to disclose where their dental work is made.

On a federal level, 10 Investigates has asked the FDA for a response to our findings for the past two months.

On Wednesday, they told us that they are reviewing our report and developing a strategy to address our findings on all imported dental devices.

The Ohio Dental Association said that it would require their members to fill out the form in hopes of giving it a better idea of how many labs are outsourcing.


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KEYWORDS: china; competition; crowns; dentistry; dentists; health; lead
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To: EEDUDE
Elemental lead is not dangerous: It’s the oxides of lead (and other lead compounds)that are dangerous as the body can easily absorb them.

I guess that is the explanation; I knew it had to do with the specific compound or physical form.

61 posted on 02/27/2008 9:44:21 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureā„¢)
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To: Sursum Corda

Ping for later reference.

My wife needs a crown replacement. This is good information. I’ve already gone to the NADL site for more.

Many thanks.


62 posted on 02/27/2008 11:10:49 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: boxerblues

bttt for later


63 posted on 02/27/2008 11:34:09 PM PST by boxerblues
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To: Duchess47; jahp; LilAngel; metmom; EggsAckley; Battle Axe; SweetCaroline; Grizzled Bear; ...
MADE IN CHINA POTTERY STAMP

(Please FReepmail me if you would like to be on or off of the list.)
64 posted on 02/28/2008 3:00:35 AM PST by JACKRUSSELL
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To: Patriotic Thunder

bttt


65 posted on 02/28/2008 4:56:10 AM PST by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: spotbust1
It appears that the porcelain cap was filed in her mouth upon insertion and the filings contained lead.

I understand that. The problem seems to be that I'm not willing to turn off my brain right there and say that's what caused it without knowing how much lead, and whether that amount of lead is really significant.

66 posted on 02/28/2008 5:03:33 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: EEDUDE
People just freak out when the word lead comes up.

It seems to be easy to get on the "no amount of environment lead exposure is safe" bandwagon. What do you think someone looking to shut down your local gun range will be able to do with that idea?

67 posted on 02/28/2008 5:08:12 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Patriotic Thunder

iS LEAD BETTER THAN MERCURY LIKE WE HAD IN FILLINGS FOR MOST OF THE LAST century... IN FILLINGS..


68 posted on 02/28/2008 5:10:11 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Patriotic Thunder
Why export it out?

Have ILLEGALS with no education make them so private companies can make a huge profit.

Let’s put ILLEGAS first!

(just being sarcastic)

69 posted on 02/28/2008 8:42:08 AM PST by nmh (Mike Huckabee the "religious" humanist that pushes socialism! (Clinton/Carter combo))
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To: Patriotic Thunder
My “crown” was close to 2K. That didn’t include prep work. too bad they don’t pass the “cost savings” down to the person receiving the crown - that is IF it is out sourced and cheaply made. I'll have to ask my dentist where the crown was made ... .
70 posted on 02/28/2008 8:44:20 AM PST by nmh (Mike Huckabee the "religious" humanist that pushes socialism! (Clinton/Carter combo))
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To: goldstategop
Been there. Done that with nerve removal as well. Gum surgery was needed to apply a crown - to expose what was left of the tooth for the crown to stay in place. It’s not fun and COSTLY. I’m just hoping the “crown” isn’t a piece of crap. That alone was nearly 2K. He’s “off plan” but I KNOW he’s good. There are too many dentists out there that should not be performing dentistry. You often have to pay a premium for a good dentist. Paying for a good dentist is cheaper in the long run ... .
71 posted on 02/28/2008 8:47:34 AM PST by nmh (Mike Huckabee the "religious" humanist that pushes socialism! (Clinton/Carter combo))
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To: tacticalogic

I understand that, and I agree. I guess I just like to err on the side of caution and cut down on as much lead ingestion as I possibly can.

I wonder, if you ask your dentist where the dental appliance is made and if there might be lead in it, do they have to tell you the truth?


72 posted on 02/28/2008 9:45:33 AM PST by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: spotbust1
I guess I just like to err on the side of caution and cut down on as much lead ingestion as I possibly can.

I'm sure I could cut down on mine if I'd give up going to the range. All things in moderation, including caution.

73 posted on 02/28/2008 9:49:59 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Well if there is one type of lead I really don’t want in my body it would be a bullet. There is a whole lot more to worry about there.

Although, I’m not sure if it would be worth not going to the range and enjoying one of our God given rights to own and use a firearm.


74 posted on 02/28/2008 10:00:31 AM PST by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: Sursum Corda
Your kid loses his retainer after orthodontic treatment. The lab bills the dentist for less than $45 for an average retainer. How much did the dental office charge the parents for the replacement?

$145.00. I know because I put my retainer through the dryer by mistake.It shrank. It was one of those clear plastic ones, and it cost $145.00 to replace.

75 posted on 02/28/2008 10:03:50 AM PST by Red Boots
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To: spotbust1
Although, I’m not sure if it would be worth not going to the range and enjoying one of our God given rights to own and use a firearm.

That's the difference between doing "everything possible" and doing what's practical and necessary.

76 posted on 02/28/2008 10:04:47 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Yes, you are right. Thanks for that lesson. ;-)


77 posted on 02/28/2008 10:15:16 AM PST by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
There are many kinds of crowns from all metal to all porcelain / metal free.
All metal can be made from almost any castable metal. All porcelain can be made from that exactly... ALL PORCALINE. Also, for stronger crowns AND bridges, porcelain can be fused to alumina or zirconium oxide sub structures. Also referred to as ALL PORCALINE OR METAL FREE. Frameworks of metal or oxides are usually about .3mm - .5 mm thick, with porcelain over about 1mm thick. More people need to know this.We won’t let our kids play with toys made in China, but we have no idea what the crown in our mouth is made of or where it’s from. China isn’t the only off shore country that crowns are coming out of. Any thing made in U S A has to be made with FDA approved products. Dental products have to be approved by the FDA to be sold here. Crowns from other countries are made with products that they just USE! Nothing resold here from off shore has to comply with the FDA. As of now that I know of, a dentist can not send his impressions right to China.... He has to go through a U.S. lab to get to China. If the time comes that a dentist can send right to china, he will get crowns for $35.00 or cheaper. So the way I see it is How can a dentist save/ make more money? How can he cut costs? If right now he pays $75.00 ( more or less) for a China crown and sells it to a patient for $800.00 to $1000.00, he is making money. An American made crown is about $100.00 to $150.00 for porcelain to metal (more or less) and metal free can be $150 - $250.00 (more or less) If you get a knee replacement , those parts are approved by the FDA. Wouldn't’t you want to know your crowns are also?
78 posted on 02/28/2008 4:42:00 PM PST by Ceramaman
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To: therut
I have made crowns for 30 years and to this day I don't know one that makes one him self. Back in the day some old World war Two dentists made gold crowns their self, and that was all. In school they made a few and thats about it. Now in dental school most don't even have to do that!
79 posted on 02/28/2008 4:53:10 PM PST by Ceramaman
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To: Ceramaman

So, are you saying that the impressions are sent to a local lab, who then will send them overseas and that’s why it takes a week or more?


80 posted on 02/28/2008 10:33:23 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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