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Chavez orders troops to Colombian border (10 battalions, WAR?)
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Posted on 03/02/2008 10:35:00 AM PST by MeanGreen2008

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To: texanyankee

“We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability,” Robertson said Monday on the Christian Broadcast Network’s “The 700 Club.”

“We don’t need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator,” he continued. “It’s a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.”

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166478,00.html


41 posted on 03/02/2008 11:14:43 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Popman

I’m not talking about an action by the U.S. which will result in the price hike. I’m talking about how the U.S. oil companies will use this incident as another excuse to raise the price of crude due to the “threat” being posed here (threat being anything they can use as a reason for padding their pockets).


42 posted on 03/02/2008 11:15:39 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: mtnwmn

And Venezuela’s economy is growing, not tanking. The economy is underpinned by the oil industry, and oil is becoming costlier and costlier.


43 posted on 03/02/2008 11:16:09 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: MeanGreen2008

This is almost like science in its predicatability. Socialist takes over, installs himself has President for life, nationalizes industries, food shortages arrive, then war. How many times do fools like Sean Penn need to see this happen to predict the outcome?


44 posted on 03/02/2008 11:16:35 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Ramius
I'm having serious issues with my computer.

A waste of otherwise fine soldiers? C'mon... Chavez may be crazy, but he's not ~stupid~. :-)

It's interesting to ponder how his military would look upon this possible invading another country situation. Surely they know that we would come to Columbia's aid. Albeit on the quiet.

45 posted on 03/02/2008 11:16:45 AM PST by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: M203M4

Danny Glover, bottom left.

And who could forget:


46 posted on 03/02/2008 11:17:41 AM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: maquiladora

Does he have 10 tank battalions do you think? If so, I hope he bought them from Russia. *snicker*


47 posted on 03/02/2008 11:18:24 AM PST by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: Arkinsaw

Colombia is potentially the closest American ally in all of Latin America. While their neighbors have become more distant from the United States, Colombia is still a steadfast ally. At the least, Congress should approve the free trade deal with the country.


48 posted on 03/02/2008 11:18:50 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: MeanGreen2008
Venezuela’s oil output is declining because its corrupt and inept government has neglected the production infrastructure and chased off foreign companies. With declining revenues, rampant bureaucratic graft and thievery, price controls and other free market suppression, and a social welfare state that grows hourly, Chavez is a candle burning at both ends. He needs foreign boogeymen—the U.S. and Colombia—to blame and distract the masses.

AN EMPTY REVOLUTION
THE UNFULFILLED PROMISES OF HUGO CHAVEZ
Foreign Affairs March/April 2008

By Francisco Rodriguez

Summary: Even critics of Hugo Chavez tend to concede that he has made helping the poor his top priority. But in fact, Chavez’s government has not done any more to fight poverty than past Venezuelan governments, and his much-heralded social programs have had little effect. A close look at the evidence reveals just how much Chavez’s “revolution” has hurt Venezuela’s economy — and that the poor are hurting most of all.

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20080301faessay87205/francisco-rodriguez/an-empty-revolution.html

49 posted on 03/02/2008 11:19:02 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Arkinsaw

Air Force 2 was in Aruba March 1-2 FWIW.

Source: Diaria newspaper, Aruba


50 posted on 03/02/2008 11:19:16 AM PST by Abby4116
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To: MeanGreen2008

Males fit for Military service for both countries
Columbia military - males age 18-49: 6,986,228
Venezuela military - males age 18-49: 4,907,947

Not sure who wins this one, but I think Chavez is blowing smoke as usual. If he invades, he’ll sure find out who his friends are/aren’t. I suspect Columbia will be very well equipped.


51 posted on 03/02/2008 11:20:28 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: SoldierDad

“I’m talking about how the U.S. oil companies will use this incident as another excuse to raise the price of crude....”

They most certainly will. They’re professionals when it comes to exaggerating the need to “compensate” for the “dangers” to the crude supply.

There could also be considerable danger for Chavez if he gets in a tangle with the Colombian military and loses a battle or two badly. His credibility and leadership would be severely damaged.


52 posted on 03/02/2008 11:21:51 AM PST by neutronsgalore (Nature, getting rid of Muslims one tsunami at a time.)
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To: MeanGreen2008

I’d spend no time trusting and ALL my time verifying anything this whack-job says. On the other hand, if he is trying to provoke something, and with Bush a lame duck, well, I get emails from friends in Venezuela all the time that says they are ready to help out.


53 posted on 03/02/2008 11:22:15 AM PST by CZB
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To: cowtowney; All

My money would be on Columbia.. The only reason is that we would support that nation..


54 posted on 03/02/2008 11:23:04 AM PST by KevinDavis (I will support John McCain..)
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To: MeanGreen2008
Well if it looks like a dictator and sounds like a dictator..Nothing new under the sun as far as a$$holes like Chavez are concerned.

Sean Penn is very concerned for his buddy.

55 posted on 03/02/2008 11:23:21 AM PST by 4yearlurker (We are the vehicles and God is the driver.)
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To: MeanGreen2008

Please pray. There are students in Venezuela this week with Campus Crusade on a missions trip from Virginia Tech.


56 posted on 03/02/2008 11:23:22 AM PST by HokieMom
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To: maquiladora

I rather doubt that Chavez has the ability to send a good chunk of his mobile troops to the border & keep them there, supplied. Still, initiating hostilities would increase the supply requirements several fold. So what could be up?

Consider that Chavez is very afraid of a coup. He puts the troops on the border to keep them outta Dodge.


57 posted on 03/02/2008 11:24:46 AM PST by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: Popman

Military spending as a % of GDP
Columbia 3.4%
Venezuela 1.2%


58 posted on 03/02/2008 11:26:43 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: neutronsgalore

Hugo’s credibility and leadership needs to be severely damaged. That, and that ugly face of his.


59 posted on 03/02/2008 11:27:27 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: MeanGreen2008

So let’s see, we have a new president, hand-picked by Putin, in Russia. We’ve got Ahmadinejad making nice with Iraq. We’ve got a new leader in Cuba. Chavez making threats against a US ally. Al Quaeda. Hammas threatening Israel. What happens when all of them get together at one time? In an election year where two socialist/communist democrats are running and very popular?

Can anybody say stretched too thin?


60 posted on 03/02/2008 11:27:53 AM PST by angeliquemb9
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