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Seized Laptop Shows Chavez-Rebel Ties
AP via brietbart ^ | Mar 5, 2008 | FRANK BAJAK

Posted on 03/05/2008 1:24:41 AM PST by Jet Jaguar

BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) - A single laptop can reveal much, and so it is with the digital treasure chest that Colombian commandos found in the jungle quarters of slain rebel leader Raul Reyes.

Files in the computer seized in Saturday's raid into Ecuador that claimed the lives of Reyes and 23 of his comrades offer an intimate portrait of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's desire to undermine Colombia's U.S.-allied government.

If authentic, the documents show that sympathies Chavez first aired publicly in January grew out of a relationship that dates back more than a decade. But Chavez is not one of the correspondents, and his sentiments mentioned in these documents are relayed solely through the rebels.

Venezuela says the documents are lies and fabrications. If they are, they are expertly done.

Not only do they offer an unprecedented glimpse into the rebels' mind- set, they also discuss diplomatic overtures from governments including the United States—cryptically—and France—explicitly.

They are signed electronically by the most powerful men in the leftist Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, the hemisphere's oldest and most potent rebel movement.

Those signing the documents include:

—Reyes, the FARC's foreign minister and public face, whose killing struck a chilling blow to the group;

—Manuel Marulanda, the rebels' 77-year-old supreme leader;

—Jorge Briceno, their much-feared field marshal;

—and Ivan Marquez, the insurgents' apparent go-between with Chavez. Marquez is believed to live in Venezuela.

Copies of 13 documents were sent to reporters Tuesday by Colombia's national police chief, Gen. Oscar Naranjo. He revealed their existence Sunday as his government came under a withering diplomatic assault for violating Ecuador's territory with the raid.

They indicate that Chavez, seeking to raise the FARC's stature and relieve it of its international pariah status, shares their goal of isolating and discrediting Colombia's president, Alvaro Uribe.

But do they prove that Venezuela was actually financing the FARC's bid to overthrow a democratically elected government? That's not clear.

Naranjo alleges the "300," called the "dossier" in a Dec. 23 message signed by Marquez, refers to a $300 million gift from Chavez to the rebels.

In a Jan. 14 missive, Briceno discusses what to do with the "dossier."

"Who, where, when and how will we receive the dollars and store them?" he asks fellow members of the FARC's seven-man ruling secretariat.

Uribe has worked as no other Colombian president to defeat the FARC. So it's no surprise that in the Jan. 14 message, Briceno discusses a desire to undermine Uribe by making him cede a safe haven to the rebels for talks on a prisoner swap.

"Uribe will become more isolated, together with his boss from the North," a clear reference to President Bush, whose government provides Colombia with some $600 million a year in military aid.

In a document dated Feb. 9, Marquez passes along Chavez's thanks for a $150,000 gift when he was imprisoned from 1992-94 for leading a failed coup—and indicates Chavez's desire to smear Uribe.

Marquez tells Marulanda and the other secretariat members that Venezuela wants documentation of damage by Colombia's military to "the civilian population, also images of bombardments in the jungle and its devastation—to use as a denunciation before the world."

Marquez also relays that Chavez's government "invites the FARC to participate in some sessions of the analysis group he's formed to follow Colombia's political situation."

In a letter the previous day to the same recipients, Marquez discusses Chavez's plan to try to persuade leading Latin American nations to help get the FARC removed from lists of international terror groups.

At least three of the documents express Chavez's deep desire to meet with Marulanda, hopefully on Venezuelan soil. Marulanda has reportedly never left Colombia.

Marquez also says Chavez is prepared to offer Venezuelan territory for the FARC's desired prisoner swap, which would be a huge embarrassment for Uribe. The FARC has proposed exchanging some 40 hostages, including three U.S. military contractors, for hundreds of rebels currently in Colombia's jails.

The FARC captured the three when their surveillance plane crashed in February 2003.

The rebels have released six hostages—all Colombian politicians—since Uribe tried to end Chavez's mediation role with the FARC in November, accusing the Venezuelan president of overstepping his mandate.

The four freed most recently, on Feb. 27, say hostage Ingrid Betancourt, a former presidential candidate who also holds French citizenship, is extremely ill.

Betancourt has become a cause celebre in France. French contacts with Reyes are mentioned in several documents, including a request that the French envoy, identified only as "Noe," be granted a meeting with Marulanda.

References to U.S. diplomatic overtures are scintillating, if vague.

In a Dec. 11 message to the secretariat, Marquez writes: "If you are in agreement, I can receive Jim and Tucker to hear the proposal of the gringos."

The same message says an Italian referred to only as Consolo has told Marquez "the European Parliament wants to get involved in the prisoner exchange."

Writing two days before his death, Reyes tells his secretariat comrades that "the gringos," working through Ecuador's government, are interested "in talking to us on various issues."

"They say the new president of their country will be (Barack) Obama," noting that Obama rejects both the Bush administration's free trade agreement with Colombia and the current military aid program.

Reyes said the response he relayed is that the United States would have to publicly express that desire.

Another message, to Reyes from a lower-ranking commander and dated Feb. 16, includes mention of a possible purchase of 50 kilos—11 pounds—of uranium.

Uribe's government has claimed that means the FARC was seeking to build a dirty bomb. But the message discusses a different motive: selling the uranium at a profit.


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1 posted on 03/05/2008 1:24:42 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

“In a document dated Feb. 9, Marquez passes along Chavez’s thanks for a $150,000 gift when he was imprisoned from 1992-94 for leading a failed coup—and indicates Chavez’s desire to smear Uribe.”

Take this in context from someone living in a country with some FARC activity. I am not an apologist by any means.

Either a smear or a serious translation issue. Does anyone think chavez waited until 3 weeks ago to offer thanks for a favor 16 years past? One view would be that this is a well-composed smear, if I am supposed to believe that chavez is just now sending thanks, along with the obama item. Would Obama’s shadow machine have feelers with farc this early? Heck, I have no idea. Maybe?

But the chavez thanks could have simply been reiteration of something long since noted and forwarded in some other context, and simply repeated by a megalomaniac. This article doesn’t provide any clues.


2 posted on 03/05/2008 1:31:26 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thanks Jet Jaguar for posting this.

(See also key word: “Angel.”)


3 posted on 03/05/2008 1:33:07 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Jet Jaguar

When the AP puts it out there I assume this is even more damaging to Chavez than this.

Fascinating to see how Latin America (and the rest of the world, actually) pins their hopes on our elections.

Thanks for the post.


4 posted on 03/05/2008 1:34:39 AM PST by IreneE (Live for nothing or die for something.)
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To: Cindy

Thanks.


5 posted on 03/05/2008 1:36:52 AM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

You’re welcome.


6 posted on 03/05/2008 1:38:45 AM PST by Cindy
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To: All; backhoe; piasa
ARTICLE SNIPPET:

"Another message, to Reyes from a lower-ranking commander and dated Feb. 16, includes mention of a possible purchase of 50 kilos—11 pounds—of uranium.

Uribe's government has claimed that means the FARC was seeking to build a dirty bomb. But the message discusses a different motive: selling the uranium at a profit."

7 posted on 03/05/2008 1:49:07 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Jet Jaguar

Elections have consequences, both here and there...


8 posted on 03/05/2008 1:53:29 AM PST by DB
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To: Jet Jaguar

So Huganut Hugo has depleted his country’s resources, and now he’s looking next door to take his neighbors.... Hmmmmmmm where have we seen this before?


9 posted on 03/05/2008 1:54:21 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Glittering prizes, and endless compromises, shatter the illusion of integrity!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Surely our guys were involved in this one, too, at least in targeting the raid. If so that’s two eminent bad guys in a couple of days. I hope we can keep up the pace. We need to do a lot of it before November.


10 posted on 03/05/2008 1:54:26 AM PST by arthurus
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To: DB

Jimmy Carter....the “gift” that just keeps on giving.


11 posted on 03/05/2008 1:56:24 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Communists who rule small countries have to have big allies/suppliers or they have to conquer their neighbors in order to avoid rapid economic decline. Even the USSR avoided early decay for a time by conquering a number of its relatively rich European neighbors. That is a drawback to absolute rule and/or thoroughgoing socialism.


12 posted on 03/05/2008 1:58:56 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Cindy
"Another message, to Reyes from a lower-ranking commander and dated Feb. 16, includes mention of a possible purchase of 50 kilos—11 110 pounds—of uranium.
13 posted on 03/05/2008 2:02:33 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: metesky

You are correct metesky.

Sorry about that — I copied and pasted.

#

http://www.healthyweightforum.org/eng/converter.asp


14 posted on 03/05/2008 2:08:29 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
Sorry about that — I copied and pasted.

I know that, Cindy. I was pointing out the ignorance of the writer.

Keep up the good work...

15 posted on 03/05/2008 2:19:40 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: metesky

Well thank you, metesky.

It’s good to have the right number — especially when it’s uranium.


16 posted on 03/05/2008 2:23:56 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Jet Jaguar

Domino Theory


17 posted on 03/05/2008 2:44:04 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Hugo's worried his massive drug profits could dry up if his commie Columbian narcotics pals are driven out of business by the Columbian government. Washington should use this opportunity to topple the Chavez communist dictatorship.

As the tension between Colombia and Venezuela increased, the Venezuelan National Guard searched cars at a bridge in San Antonio del Táchira , at Venezuela's border with Colombia. Venezuela closed several border crossings and increased troop strength along the border. Photo: Rodrigo Arangua/Agence France-Presse

18 posted on 03/05/2008 2:47:17 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: All

http://counterterrorismblog.org/2008/03/growing_international_freefora.php

“Growing International Free-For-All, As Charges Mount On Chavez Laundering and Terrorist Ties”
By Jonathan Winer
(March 4, 2008)

#

http://counterterrorismblog.org/2008/03/hugos_overwrought_reaction_to.php

“Hugo’s Overwrought Reaction to Reyes’ Killing”
By Aaron Mannes
(March 4, 2008)


19 posted on 03/05/2008 3:32:45 AM PST by Cindy
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To: WoofDog123

Chavez often refers to that first coup attempt and people who were his faithful friends when nobody else could give him the time of day, etc., etc. Like all good dictators, he’s a self-obsessed fool. So I saw the comments about the $150,000 as simply his usual somewhat unctuous recalling of a former gesture of support as a prelude to asking for something new.


20 posted on 03/05/2008 3:38:09 AM PST by livius
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To: Cindy

Sorry, wrong thread. (re post no. 21).


22 posted on 03/05/2008 3:51:53 AM PST by Cindy
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To: WoofDog123; Jet Jaguar; neverdem

That’s funny.

Jimmy Carter said Chavez election was fair and balanced and not corrupt and that he was an outstanding supporter of democracy. And all of the other democrats, liberals, and Hollywood elite (but I repeat myself) said that too.

Not a typical Communist thug intent on spreading his socialism and warfare to neighboring countries.......


23 posted on 03/05/2008 4:43:41 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
{References to U.S. diplomatic overtures are scintillating, if vague.

In a Dec. 11 message to the secretariat, Marquez writes: "If you are in agreement, I can receive Jim and Tucker to hear the proposal of the gringos."

The same message says an Italian referred to only as Consolo has told Marquez "the European Parliament wants to get involved in the prisoner exchange."

Writing two days before his death, Reyes tells his secretariat comrades that "the gringos," working through Ecuador's government, are interested "in talking to us on various issues."

"They say the new president of their country will be (Barack) Obama," noting that Obama rejects both the Bush administration's free trade agreement with Colombia and the current military aid program.

Reyes said the response he relayed is that the United States would have to publicly express that desire. ]

. . .we can do more than wonder, perhaps; at who is engagin in 'terrorist outreach' here. .

24 posted on 03/05/2008 10:42:44 AM PST by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Jet Jaguar

bttt. If this proves authentic: Paging Hollywood leftards who supported Chavez ... oh. Wait. They still support Castro despite ironclad proof of the latter’s jailing of political prisoners. Never mind.


25 posted on 03/05/2008 5:32:19 PM PST by pogo101
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