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Be careful what you read and where...
Nuvo (Indian) ^
| 27 Feb, 208
| David Hoppe
Posted on 03/05/2008 3:58:15 AM PST by Larry R. Johnson
Keith John Sampson never thought he could get in trouble for reading a book, especially not on a college campus. But thats what happened. Sampson is a man in his early 50s. He does janitorial work for the campus facility services at IUPUI, where hes been gradually accumulating credits for a degree in communications studies. He has 10 credit hours to go. .... The book is about how for two days in May 1924, a group of Notre Dame students got into a street fight with members of the Ku Klux Klan. The Klan was meeting in South Bend for the express purpose of sticking a collective thumb in the eye of the countrys most famous Catholic university. Notre Dame vs. the Klan was a Notre Dame Magazine Pick of the Week and garnered an average customer review of 4.5 stars on Amazon.com. In its review, The Indiana Magazine of History noted that Tucker succeeds in placing the event in a broad framework that includes the origins and development of both the Klan and Notre Dame.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: academicfreedom; censorship; correctness
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This guy got into trouble for reading (reading on a college campus, of all places) an historical account of a fight between Ku Klux Klan members and Notre Dame Students that happend 84 years ago. Some folks decided to made trouble for this guy. How far is political corrction going? Would the animals in a zoo be offended if I read a cookbook?
To: Larry R. Johnson
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posted on
03/05/2008 4:00:03 AM PST
by
Jet Jaguar
(Who would the terrorists vote for?)
To: Larry R. Johnson
If they are going to MAKE anyone do anything, they should make all the morons that work with him read the book and write a report on it. And apologize to Mr. Sampson for being such idiots by interfering with his freedom to read in their presence.
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posted on
03/05/2008 4:12:32 AM PST
by
Right Wing Assault
("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
To: Larry R. Johnson
I think it might be best for all if Mr. Sampson filed a harassment lawsuit against all concerned.
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posted on
03/05/2008 4:14:03 AM PST
by
jimtorr
To: Larry R. Johnson
How far is political correction going? I don't know if it was a Freudian slip or a typo, but it is a very succinct way of describing the true nature of PC, as observed in this incident. It's not about political correctness, it's about political correction. That's what I'm calling it from now on. Thanks!
To: Larry R. Johnson
“How far is political corrction going?”
PC, fundamentally, is the compartmentalization of the mind. It goes as far as it can the FIRST time it is used. This is why we are (or once were) taught to fear lies. You KNOW where PC is going if you know History.
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posted on
03/05/2008 4:36:34 AM PST
by
TalBlack
To: Larry R. Johnson
One guy’s comment had it right: “Liberal Fascism”.
To: stayathomemom
All fascism emanates from liberal doctrine.
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posted on
03/05/2008 5:08:09 AM PST
by
Amos the Prophet
(here come I, gravitas in tow.)
To: Larry R. Johnson
This sounds like a job for
Mike Adams. I just sent him an email.
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posted on
03/05/2008 5:08:30 AM PST
by
BufordP
(Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
To: Larry R. Johnson
Political correctness has nothing to do with it.
It's a continueing attack on all things American .. especially knowledge.
Pol Pot had his gory killing fields, we have have a more sanitized version.
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posted on
03/05/2008 5:11:13 AM PST
by
knarf
(I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
To: Larry R. Johnson
Mr. Sampson is NOT being harassed for reading a book dealing with the Ku Klux Klan, Mr. Sampson is being harassed because he is reading ANY book and there-by “acting white”.
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posted on
03/05/2008 5:27:10 AM PST
by
martin gibson
("I care not what course others may take, but as for myself, give me Ralph Stanley or give me death")
To: Larry R. Johnson
From the article:
Sampson recalls that his AFSCME shop steward told him that reading a book about the Klan was like bringing pornography to work. The shop steward wasnt interested in hearing what the book was actually about. Another time, a coworker who was sitting across the table from Sampson in the break room commented that she found the Klan offensive. Sampson says he tried to tell her about the book, but she wasnt interested in talking about it.
Hard to believe that the people who had a problem with him reading that book did not want to hear any explanation. Their minds were totally closed on the subject.
Almost like some kind of automatic knee jerk reaction where any reference to the KKK (even a historical account of fighting back against the KKK) was to be forbidden.
I can only imagine that it's a victim mindset hard at work on the part of those offended by him reading the book in their presence.
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posted on
03/05/2008 5:28:17 AM PST
by
Screaming_Gerbil
(How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
To: Larry R. Johnson
I hope everyone read the whole story and looked at the letters before knee-jerking. While I don't support the shop steward's approach, there does seem to be more to the story. From what I gather, Mr. Sampson was not forbidden from reading the book--he was asked to read the book apart from other employees who found the title disturbing.
I imagine books that I wouldn't want to see a co-worker reading when I'm trying to take a break. "How to Defeat Brain-Sucking Baby-Killers" might be something I'd ask my co-worker to read with discretion, for example.
But that's a common courtesy thing, not something for the university administration (though the policy is in place). Note, however, that the Affirmative Action office did not take action against Mr. Sampson, as it couldn't determine that he was trying to create a sisruption to the work environment. Sounds like they did the right thing.
I imagine this might have been a personnel issue that got out of hand, but that's mere speculation.
FIRE or The Rutherford Institute might be able to help, if there's reason.

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posted on
03/05/2008 5:32:00 AM PST
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: Screaming_Gerbil
Hard to believe that the people who had a problem with him reading that book did not want to hear any explanation. Their minds were totally closed on the subject.
Almost like some kind of automatic knee jerk reaction where any reference to the KKK (even a historical account of fighting back against the KKK) was to be forbidden. Or, the shop steward believed that Mr. Sampson was reading the book in a way to intentionally irritate the other employees, and didn't care about content. The content wasn't at issue, if you read the letters. The issue was whether he was intentionally disrupting the work environment, and I can see that a person might not want to think about the KKK on his break.
That being said, of course the other employees could keep their eyes to themselves, and that's it's good that the focus was on whether or not he was intending to be disruptive--not on the book content.
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posted on
03/05/2008 5:35:03 AM PST
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: Gondring
While I don't support the shop steward's approach, there does seem to be more to the story. From what I gather, Mr. Sampson was not forbidden from reading the book--he was asked to read the book apart from other employees who found the title disturbing. Look - you're wrong, and I don't want to discuss it with you or debate any of the facts.
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posted on
03/05/2008 5:38:01 AM PST
by
an amused spectator
(AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
To: Larry R. Johnson
Let the liberal book burning begin! /SARCASM.
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posted on
03/05/2008 5:41:09 AM PST
by
bmwcyle
(I am the watchman on the tower sounding the alarm.)
To: Larry R. Johnson
I’d sue the school for academic fraud. When Churchill can say what he said without consequence but a book gets a guy into trouble, there isn’t much else needed to know that colleges are about money and not education.
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posted on
03/05/2008 5:48:21 AM PST
by
CodeToad
To: bmwcyle
So, this is great!
If a co-worker that I hate is reading a book about computer networking entitled "Network Link - Lan Interactions", then I can point to the fact that he's reading a book with the word "k - Lan" in the title and have him gigged on it!
Brilliant!
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posted on
03/05/2008 5:49:37 AM PST
by
an amused spectator
(AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
To: Gondring
WHOA! It sounds like someone got spanked. I suspect another letter is forthcoming.
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posted on
03/05/2008 5:53:07 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: Free State Four
Yes, I have to agree,...this PC thing is a disguise for fascism....next it will be burning the books that “offend” the liberal fanatics....
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posted on
03/05/2008 5:54:23 AM PST
by
thinking
To: Free State Four
I absolutely agree...political correction from now on!
To: Gondring
pardon me if I upchuck....this person is a typical liberal, lash-out, without a second of reflective thought....liberalism is a mental deficiency....the right brain hemisphere, is over developed....
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posted on
03/05/2008 6:00:42 AM PST
by
thinking
To: an amused spectator
Drive the stakes into the ground and pile up the fire wood. The Liberal think they own the world now.
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posted on
03/05/2008 6:04:53 AM PST
by
bmwcyle
(I am the watchman on the tower sounding the alarm.)
To: Free State Four
good insight!
following along in using that phrase
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posted on
03/05/2008 6:20:02 AM PST
by
woollyone
(entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
To: Gondring
Sounds like they did the right thing.
It would seem that the original complaint is about the title of a book with no one but the accused, in this instance, interested in the contents. Using such a triviality as the basis of a complaint could (and, perhaps, should) be deemed as harassment of the individual against whom the complaint is leveled.
If the facts, in their entirety, are as presented in this article and the letters you posted, this case is an illustration of political correctness running to its natural, asinine conclusion. This situation also illustrates the idiocy of granting petty, bureaucratic ideologues unchecked power over peoples livelihoods, or, if you will, their pursuits of happiness.
Should a complaint be investigated? Absolutely! Should the investigation, in this case, have been summarily terminated upon the initial examination of the facts? Absolutely!
The first real question in this situation is should a complaint have been filed in the first place? Absolutely NOT!!!
Someone filing a complaining for offense at the title of a book being read by a coworker is absurd. Such a complaint over a title that has no obscenities, vulgarities, or curses in it is ridiculous in the extreme.
At the time, Sampson was reading a book he had checked out from the public library. Notre Dame vs. the Klan: How the Fighting Irish Defeated the Ku Klux Klan, published in 2004, features a photograph of the University of Notre Dames famous golden dome on the cover.
Given that the first complaint appeared, would common sense have demanded that it be immediately resolved and/or dismissed (based upon the facts in this post) by the first person of any authority or influence who looked into it? Absolutely!!!
Sampson recalls that his AFSCME shop steward told him that reading a book about the Klan was like bringing pornography to work. The shop steward wasnt interested in hearing what the book was actually about. [emphasis added]
Given that the complaint was not dismissed by the first supervisor who examined it, should any consideration of the complaint and the facts have justified leveling an accusation that the reader had engaged in racial harassment? Absolutely NOT!!!
Sampson says he tried to explain to Watkins [at the IUPUI Affirmative Action Office] what the book was about. He says he tried to show her the book, but that Watkins showed no interest in seeing it. [emphasis added]
From the Affirmative Action Office letter you posted:
we conclude that your conduct constitutes racial harassment.
Should it have taken from November to February of the following year to officially tell the individual against whom the complaint had been leveled that he was absolved and no longer in any jeopardy? Absolutely NOT!!!
Did the educational institution and its affirmative action office and/or officer do the right thing? Absolutely NOT!!! In fact, this case is a damning indictment of these types policies and their related enforcement mechanism. To say your assessment to the contrary is questionable is an understatement in the extreme.
To: Gondring
What a weaselly little scumbag. That "letter" is attempting to create an issue where none exists. The guy was just reading a book and the nattering ninnies only saw the "KKK" and just stopped thinking at that point.
Idiocy. Sheer stupid, deplorable, PC-run-amok, moronic malfeasance.
If you are that d*mn "sensitive", how the heck do you make it through a work day without breaking down into tears every five minutes or having someone hold your hand all day. These people need to grow up...
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posted on
03/05/2008 6:31:10 AM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(What would a free man do?)
To: LachlanMinnesota; woollyone; thinking
Thanks. I liked it. Very descriptive.
To: Larry R. Johnson
no...this could not happen....what are you thinking? At least that is what the majority think (and 911 came), but yes reading a book can now be trouble. Though I have to file my comment under the for-what-it-is-worth department. I do snicker to myself sometimes though...lol
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posted on
03/05/2008 6:33:36 AM PST
by
From One - Many
(Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk.)
To: Larry R. Johnson
I believe this story. Try reading that book or have it in your possesion at most any large corporation in the US. At minimum, you will be hauled in to HR.
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posted on
03/05/2008 6:34:13 AM PST
by
caver
(Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
To: All
well maybe the second one will come up now.
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posted on
03/05/2008 6:34:13 AM PST
by
From One - Many
(Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk.)
To: Gondring
Note, however, that the Affirmative Action office did not take action against Mr. Sampson They flatly state inn the first letter that the conduct is racial harassment. If they won't take action against that, what's the point of having an AA office?
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posted on
03/05/2008 6:37:52 AM PST
by
Sloth
(Senator He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, D - Illinois)
To: Larry R. Johnson
This article reminds me of the Born Loser cartoon this Sunday.
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posted on
03/05/2008 6:40:04 AM PST
by
Arrowhead1952
(Both dim candidates promise change and/or hope. I don't think the USA can afford their message.)
To: Arrowhead1952
see my second one is not coming up....forums....another avenue for truth? or non-truth? It depends on who one asks, or who has the stick.
Yours was a great point .... Thanks.
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posted on
03/05/2008 6:44:10 AM PST
by
From One - Many
(Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk.)
To: Gondring
Thanks for putting everything into better perspective by posting the letters. Does indeed look like he could read the book apart from his other co-workers, just not around them where they might be “offended”.
Just wondering, does the same rule apply to people who play loud rap music?
Of course I don’t know the whole situation. It seems to me that either he’s a pain to be around for a lot of other reasons, or his co-workers have some other issue with him and are trying to find ways to get him in trouble.
However, unless the book cover had a picture of a burning cross or lynched black person on it, I still think the people he works with are apparently quick to jump on the “I’m a victim” argument.
What if someone was upset if someone was reading the Bible in their presence? What about the Koran? It seems this could get interesting...
What is probably closest to the root cause here (in my opinion) is that people are quick to claim victim status and go running to Mommy/Daddy (authority) to get someone shut down.
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posted on
03/05/2008 6:48:12 AM PST
by
Screaming_Gerbil
(How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
Comment #35 Removed by Moderator
To: Screaming_Gerbil
Liberals offend me. I don't want them around me when I'm taking my break.
Do I have standing for my complaint now?
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posted on
03/05/2008 6:53:33 AM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(What would a free man do?)
To: Dead Corpse
btw...my second post didn’t come up...guess that one was filed as well, only not on the forum. sometimes all I can do is shake my head.
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posted on
03/05/2008 7:00:47 AM PST
by
From One - Many
(Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk.)
To: From One - Many
This whole thing just reminds me of the dust up over the word "niggardly".
Idiotic bed-wetting non-sense.
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posted on
03/05/2008 7:02:32 AM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(What would a free man do?)
To: All
I have to go now....hope I will be allowed (as I realize many here hope the same) to continue my quest for the truth....(shaking head)
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posted on
03/05/2008 7:03:16 AM PST
by
From One - Many
(Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk.)
To: Dead Corpse
man oh man oh man....our country is in trouble and the bed-wetters have control of the helm. (shaking head)
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posted on
03/05/2008 7:05:11 AM PST
by
From One - Many
(Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk.)
To: Larry R. Johnson
since my post was reviewed and does not look to be coming up, I must be considered a threat...never thought I would live to see the day....lol
yep, things (once held dear) are now well gone. I wanted to find out if I was allowed to be concerned for my country, and now I find it difficult to post. I must be under investigation. Thanks, guys and girls in black, you've wasted more time. now while I know this will not be posted, or maybe it will, but I see the truth now, and Mr. Robinson this may not be your fault. I understand, how difficult some people can make Free Speech. Prayers for us all, Sir.
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posted on
03/05/2008 7:08:28 AM PST
by
From One - Many
(Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk.)
To: From One - Many; Admin Moderator
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posted on
03/05/2008 7:10:06 AM PST
by
From One - Many
(Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk.)
To: Jim Robinson
Sir, I will attempt to live up to your expectations. Thank You.
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posted on
03/05/2008 7:13:39 AM PST
by
From One - Many
(Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk.)
To: Larry R. Johnson
And now for “The rest of the story” Unions
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posted on
03/05/2008 7:17:09 AM PST
by
ThomasThomas
( Sometimes you need to change to remain the same.)
To: From One - Many
FR doesn't filter posts on the fly. If a Mod pulls a post, it still shows as being posted, but it'll say "removed buy moderator".
Having two accounts is a Big No-no.
Good luck...
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posted on
03/05/2008 7:19:03 AM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(What would a free man do?)
To: From One - Many
I thought you said you were leaving?
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posted on
03/05/2008 7:30:21 AM PST
by
Hatteras
To: Gondring
Geez, what does it pay to be an "Affirmative Action Officer?"
Do they wear spiffy black uniforms with leather trenchcoats?
To: Larry R. Johnson
This guy is going to be rich. This is a huge lawsuit waiting to happen. Actually, several lawsuits.
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posted on
03/05/2008 8:01:57 AM PST
by
TexanToTheCore
(If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
To: an amused spectator
Look - you're wrong, and I don't want to discuss it with you or debate any of the facts. LOL!
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posted on
03/05/2008 3:59:55 PM PST
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: Gondring
:-)
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posted on
03/05/2008 5:06:13 PM PST
by
an amused spectator
(AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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