McCain to seek support from top conservatives [Conservatives sold out by their "leaders"]

Washington Times ^ | March 7, 2008 | Ralph Z. Hallow

[EternalVigilance]

NEW ORLEANS — Sen. John McCain, in his post-victory debut before the conservative movement's top donors and leaders, will address the Council for National Policy's annual winter meeting here today.

*snip*

"Many conservative leaders did not support him, but he is a proud conservative Republican who thinks he can earn their support in the general election," Mr. [Charlie] Black added.

[bert]

.....Give me a break.....

Why?

Gentle persuasion is needed to allow you to see the reality to which you are somehow blinded. You have certain goals and values that cannot presently be acheived in total.

I would think that to achieve as much as possible would be a fall back. Voting for a write in or not voting and by default supporting the Rat should not be rational options. All produce loss.

[CharacterCounts]

Everybody is spending a lot of time and effort trying to convince conservatives to vote for McCain, except one pesron. . . McCain!

[TADSLOS]

Everybody is spending a lot of time and effort trying to convince conservatives to vote for McCain, except one pesron. . . McCain!

(BINGO)

Sorry, he's too busy apologizing to his liberal friends.

[MBB1984]

Yes, giving McInsane a victory would only complete the Marxist vision of one party rule. McCain would quickly move to establish fellow leftists in leadership positions and ensure that leftist Republicans be backed for all candidate slots. This effective purging of conservatives would be conducted at all levels of government. Those slightly to the right would be reeducated and told to fall in line or also be purged.

Voting for leftist Republicans is analogous to feeding a cancer. A defeat of McCain would give conservatives a chance to take back the party from Soros.

[Post-Neolithic]

"What are you suggesting? Third Party? You know that's a loser."

You know, this "A third party will never win" garbage is getting kind of old. Listen up folks, the Republican party is a "Third Party", read your history.

[MBB1984]

Good post. Shine the truth on McCain and his supporters run like cockroaches exposed to light.

[Iron Munro]

McCAIN PLAN TO WIN CONSERVATIVES

1 - Use different words to restate the same old tired claptrap

2 - Repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat

3 - Call them names

4 - Scare them with the Boogey-man and the Boogey-woman

5 - Turn up the volume, speak slowly and use one syllable words

[syriacus]

so why on earth send money to give him the message?

Sending no money sounds good to me.

[shadowgovernment]

You are right repulsive it is —how about this info (from Drudgereport this AM)for those who support MCCain..sad if true.:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>....
The controversy over the Pentagon decision to award a $35bn refuelling tanker contract to EADS spilled into the presidential race yesterday, when a senior Democrat suggested that John McCain, the Republican nominee, was responsible for the deal being “outsourced” to a European company.

Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic House speaker, said Boeing had been on course to supply the US Air Force with tankers until Mr McCain “intervened”.

“My understanding is that it was on course for Boeing before. I mean, the thought was that it would be a domestic supplier for it,” Ms Pelosi told reporters.

“Senator McCain intervened, and now we have a situation where the contract may be - this work may be outsourced.”

[Man50D]

The fact of the matter is that conservatives aren’t nearly the political force they think

If Conservatives are such a small minority then he shouldn't repeteadly proclaim himself as the member of a minority. No candidate can survive an election claiming they belong to a group so small it is insignificant. On the contrary if Conservatives are so ineffective he should be at the very least ignoring if not out right denouncing Conservatism.

If this is true then McCain waisted a lot of time trying to convince Conservatives he is Conservative. If Conservatives are the minority you claim then by implication you're tacitly admitting socialism is the majority. That being the case John McCain should have been pointing out all along his propensity of supporting the socialist cause through McCain-Feingold, Lieberman-MCCain(Global Warming), opposition to over turning Roe V Wade and his support for granting amnesty to illegal aliens.

The curious thing is he hasn't made any of those issues the centerpiece of his campaign. Instead he has stayed away from mentioning those issues. Why? The only logical answer is he doesn't see Conservatives as a minority. He knows support from Conservatives is essential to winning in November. The irony is he is unwilling to change and Conservatives are standing their ground. His compromising, reach across the aisle, bipartisanship to the socialsit Democrats is a tactic Conservatives will never accept.

To say that leaders are selling them out is a profound rationalization and misunderstanding of events and motivation.

The claim that the GOP is selling our Conservatism is on the mark. It is rationalizing to believe McCain resembles anything close to a Conservative. The events to which John McCain has favored with the socialist left is a clear indication of his and the GOP's motivation. Unfortunately it is the continued appeasement of the socialists at the expense of Conservatism.

The reason for conservative leaders indicating support for the apparent nominee is that he is the apparent nominee.

Anyone who supports McCain is not a Conservative.

A hope for strict, unwavering conservative values and ideals is no longer a reality at the top of the ticket in this cycle.

The Socialists never waver on their principles while the GOP continually fools itself into believing if they just cede a few more Conservative principles each time some how the socialists will see the light and join Conservative. The socialist have see the light by recognizing the longer they remain steadfast to their socialist principles the better chance they have of incrementally eroding our Democratic Republic and converting it to a strong centralized Socialist government. Those who reach out to them such as yourself bert only further their cause.

The same type of appeasement thinking was used with Hitler and his brown shirted thugs in the 1920'-1930's. The people of Germany anded up with the type of government they were trying to avoid. Conservative realize the reality is the GOP is going down the same slippery slope and refuse to aid the Socialists to achieve their goal.

[kabar]

RAMM

[MinuteGal]

Funny, the poll just conducted on the home page showed overwhelming support for McCain among freepers in the November election. The poll points up the disparity between those who will vote for McCain and the number of anti-McCain posters on FR.

The continual onslaught of vicious anti-McCain posts (insane, coward, fascist,traitor, and more, on this thread alone) will probably continue till November. However, to reiterate, it's obvious from the poll that the inundation of hate posts represent only a vocal, vituperative minority of freepers.

I think the freepers who supported other candidates such as FRed and Huck and who are now scalded as "McCainiacs" just because they will vote for McCain due to no other intelligent choice better start speaking up or else FR will become another hate site.....and it's well on its way already if you're reading all the presidential threads here.

Hate posts are now running rampant and I, for one, am sick to death of it. I don't even want to be reading here anymore.

Leni

[bert]

There is an error in your analysis. You assume that there is a narrow definition whereas in reality there is a broader definition. There is a Conservative spectrum from ultraviolet to infrared.

At present the blue end is disgusted that it can not prevail. The minority is the extreme blue end.

What will be done to persuade many of those disgusted souls to rejoin the Republican effort will be interesting. There is lots of time for haggling over minor points of dogma

[Iron Munro]

The fact of the matter is that conservatives aren’t nearly the political force they think.

Conservative numbers are not large enough to compete and win against the democrat and republican branches of the Mono-crat-ican party.
But we are a large enough force to influence elections.
Many candidates need conservative support to win elections.

By supporting only those candidates that promote conservative principles we put that influence and power to use and make our presence felt.

By supporting candidates like McCain because they are not democrats we lose any influence we might have.
We become like the blacks to the democrats - we get stuck on the plantation because our votes are taken for granted.

A vote for McCain is a vote to further marginalize conservatives and to destroy the conservative movement.

UNITED WE STAND

Divided We Have No Power

If they want our votes they must earn them

[bert]

It’s over. The vote has been taken. We did not have a candidate that could prevail.

The principles espoused are meaningful and worthwhile, but not in the presidential primaries in 2008. That race is decided

On the other hand, they apply in spades to the Senate and House. Efforts should be redoubled to insure the election of conservatives such as our own John armour aka Congressman Billly Bob.

[TADSLOS]

I will not vote for or endorse a candidate who won't abide by his own sponsored and ill written campaign finance legislation and who takes millions of dollars from a mystery donor south of the border.

I refuse to vote for a candidate who accepts embryonic stem cell research and who back pedals on Roe v. Wade.

I will not champion a candidate that actively pursues to take measures that will hamstring our military and intelligence community's efforts to fight and kill terrorists.

I will not endorse or campaign for a candidate that wishes to provide captured terrorists the same rights and protections under the U.S Constitution as a U.S Citizen.

I will not participate by association and goofy bi-partisan legislation,in the global warming scam like McCain does.

I will not support McCain, who, as an advocate of the UN sponsored ICC, accepts the likelihood of a Star Chamber that threatens to try and convict members of our armed forces of war crimes at the drop of a hat.

I absolutely refuse to vote for, support, or in any way, encourage an open borders,illegal amnesty champion like McCain.

I refuse to meekly and blindly accept the globalist agenda that McCain operates under that ravages this nation with 20+ million illegals and another 10-20 million to finish the job over the next ten years.

If you are willing to accept what McCain has to offer, then:

a. You are no conservative

b. You deserve who you vote for

[CharacterCounts]

Are you saying that the minority should have no right to voice its opinion?

Should all be banned for not jumping on the McCain Bandwagon?

Which side initiates all of these threads?

I have never used an insulting term towards any FReeper, but have been insulted frequently by supporters of McCain. Is that O.K. with you?

[Calpernia]

I love that post. I may have to steal it.

[dforest]

Two days ago some of the most vicious hatred emanated from McCain supporters. McCain is not a conservative so it is understandable that many will not vote for him. Those people have a right to discuss those reasons without being told by McCainiacs that they don’t matter and be called nasty names.

Get some spine, suck it up. Humans generally disagree with each other all the time. There is no rule that we all have to agree that we will vote for McCain. How totally boring it would be if we all fell in place like robots.

McCains deserves the scrutiny as many of us never have had an opportunity to reflect our opinions by our primary vote.

Chill out, the election is a while away.

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

>>A hope for strict, unwavering conservative values and ideals is no longer a reality at the top of the ticket in this cycle.<<

I am not opposed to compromise. I supported Thompson even though he was not perfect. Looks like it is McCain who is unwilling to compromise with conservatives. So far, he has refused to even try to earn my vote.

>>None were able to provide the pure conservative philosophy and attract enough attention and votes to prevail.<<

Again, I am not asking for purity, but I find a candidate who will put the interests of another country above his own intolerable.

>>There will be another day, but to fight on that day, the enemy must not be allowed to grow and prosper.<<

The trouble is that a potential Democrat (or worse) voting super-majority is growing every day in the form of illegal aliens, and McCain wants to make them voters.

I am still waiting for McCain to make the case that his immigration policies would not lead to the same disaster as the Dems: Republicans lose all 3 branches forever. I am listening, waiting for a miracle, hoping that he will step back and look at himself.