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Boeing supporters target McCain
Yahoo ^ | 3/8/2008 | MATTHEW DALY/ap

Posted on 03/08/2008 4:24:09 AM PST by tobyhill

WASHINGTON - Angry Boeing supporters are vowing revenge against Republican presidential candidate John McCain over Chicago-based Boeing's loss of a $35 billion Air Force tanker contract to the parent company of European plane maker Airbus.

There are other targets for their ire — the Air Force, the defense secretary and even the entire Bush administration.

But Boeing supporters in Congress are directing their wrath at McCain, the Arizona senator and nominee in waiting, for scuttling an earlier deal that would have let Boeing build the next generation of Air Force refueling tankers. Boeing now will miss out on a deal that it says would have supported 44,000 new and existing jobs at the company and suppliers in 40 states.

"I hope the voters of this state remember what John McCain has done to them and their jobs," said Rep. Norm Dicks, D-Wash., whose state would have been home to the tanker program and gained about 9,000 jobs.

"Having made sure that Iraq gets new schools, roads, bridges and dams that we deny America, now we are making sure that France gets the jobs that Americans used to have," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill. "We are sending the jobs overseas, all because John McCain demanded it."

The European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co. and its U.S. partner, Los Angeles-based Northrop Grumman, won a competition with Boeing Feb. 29 to build the refueling planes in one of the biggest Pentagon contracts in decades. The unexpected decision has sparked outrage from union halls to the halls of Congress over the impact on U.S. jobs, prestige and national security. EADS and Northrop say about 60 percent of their tanker will be built in the U.S.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; boeing; johnmccain; manufacturing; mccain; rahmemanuel
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1 posted on 03/08/2008 4:24:09 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

These would be the Seattle wackos and the Chicago criminals, both of which are lefties


2 posted on 03/08/2008 4:30:44 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: bert

Exactly, McCain wasn’t getting the union vote anyway.


3 posted on 03/08/2008 4:31:43 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
"I hope the voters of this state remember what John McCain has done to them and their jobs," said Rep. Norm Dicks, DEMOCRAT-Wash., whose state would have been home to the tanker program and gained about 9,000 jobs.

we are making sure that France gets the jobs that Americans used to have," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, DEMOCRAT-Ill. "We are sending the jobs overseas, all because John McCain demanded it."

Shouldn't the article title read, "DEMOCRAT SUPPORTERS TARGET MCCAIN"??

4 posted on 03/08/2008 4:32:46 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: tobyhill

Rep. Norm Dicks, D-Boeing


5 posted on 03/08/2008 4:38:51 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Never say yer sorry, mister. It's a sign of weakness)
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To: tobyhill

Looks like “Boing” hasn’t gotten good return on their bribes to the Democrats in Office. But, government always expects more money when they fail. Too bad, in the real world, companies should look at making profits not political hacks.


6 posted on 03/08/2008 4:42:42 AM PST by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: missnry
Shouldn't the article title read, "DEMOCRAT SUPPORTERS TARGET MCCAIN"??

or perhaps "While close, Illinois Congress critters now seen as even more shrill than the Taxachussetts critters!"

Rahm Emmanuel, Dick Durbin, Barry (not Hussein) Obama

v

Frank, Kerry, Kennedy

yep, the new Left has spoken!

7 posted on 03/08/2008 4:45:30 AM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: Steamburg

Where do we find the real details behind this as opposed to all the political BS. I heard Boeing bid to the proposal specs
while Airbus bid a bigger plane with a higher price. The AF then decided the Airbus deal sounded better without going back
and sending out a new request to the vendors based on the “new” AF desire for a bigger plane.

This does not sound fair but reeks of incompetence in the AF process if true.

Like I said, where can one find the facts?


8 posted on 03/08/2008 4:48:04 AM PST by Boblo
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To: All

This will be a volatile issue in the upcoming campaign...it’s not just
Washington, but Kansas and Tx...states McCain needs.

McCain was right in going after the 6billion contract that was rife with corruption. But in the politicized news cycle that won’t matter. People are losing jobs and it will resonate.

I personally disagree with the EADS contract for 3 main reasons:

1) With the economy slowing we will have billions of useless stimulus spending (The Boeing contract would be useful military stimulus spending)

2) Large military contracts should be kept on US soil for national security reasons. We need the capacity to buil our larger defense projects right here. When you lose that ability...it’s is very expensive to get it back.

3) Outsourcing: Just how far can we push the free trade outsourcing of the American economy? Now that Defense projects are included, I see a creeping erosion of military, intelligence and high tech outsourcing to unprecedented levels.


9 posted on 03/08/2008 4:49:27 AM PST by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: Boblo

Major manufacturers such as Boeing Co., General Electric Aircraft Engines and Bombardier/Learjet often cut costs by allowing foreign suppliers to make airplane components, but do not adequately supervise the quality of their subcontractors’ work, said the report this week from the U.S. Department of Transportation’s inspector general.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20080301/BUSINESS/834977225/1006

Northrop offered more bang for the buck.
Boeing’s Tankers did not perform as well as Northrop’s

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/03/05/why-boeing-lost-the-100-billion-air-force-tanker-deal/


10 posted on 03/08/2008 4:54:08 AM PST by A. Morgan (VOTE FOR A LIBERAL N' WE'LL BE UP TO OUR NECKS IN ILLEGALS and OUTA' GAS!)
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To: bert

Boeing tried to scam the tax payers and got caught. People lost their jobs and went to jail. Their scheme went away and their second try fell short. They have only themselves to blame.


11 posted on 03/08/2008 4:55:28 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: tobyhill

Boeing lib/dem supporters target McCain!!!!!!


12 posted on 03/08/2008 4:56:04 AM PST by nyyankeefan
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To: tobyhill

Unfortunately, it isn’t just the unions affected by the loss of this contract. The small businesses those union workers spend their money with are also hurt as are their employees and the people they spend money with. This will ripple through an already slowed economy.

It will also hurt Boeing’s suppliers and their employees and the people they spend money with. Those people who work for Boeing suppliers in 40 states could be the difference between him winning in November and not winning, especially if some of the base stays home, votes third party, or leaves the President line blank in November.

You pull out a small percentage of the conservative vote and a small percentage of the moderate union vote and you have a Democrat victory.

This could sink him if the Democrats play it right.


13 posted on 03/08/2008 4:57:14 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: rbmillerjr

60% is still being built in America and will probably employee as many people as Boeing would have. This is nothing but the Air Force getting more bang for their buck. Boeing seems to think they can continue to add 40% bribe money to their bids and not get called on it but this time it didn’t work. This also has to do with the Boeing “virtual fence” that they scammed the government on.


14 posted on 03/08/2008 4:58:50 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
60% is still being built in America and will probably employee as many people as Boeing would have.

That will not matter. The press isn't going to show those people going to work. They will be showing closed stores and Boeing workers in unemployment lines.

This could hurt McCain badly.

15 posted on 03/08/2008 5:03:36 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: tobyhill

“60% is still being built in America”

Hmm, so if Boeing moves 40% of their plant and workforce to Mexico next month...we can all be gleeful that 60% is still builit in America?


16 posted on 03/08/2008 5:10:38 AM PST by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: rbmillerjr
No we shouldn't but Boeing also shouldn't try to rip the Government off. The 60% being built in America is about the same number of jobs as Boeing would have hired for 100% American. Boeing never hires enough people and is always at least 3 years behind on every Government contract. Boeing is acting just like American car makers,”buy us even though we're overpriced, under-quality but American and late”. In America we have a free market system and if Boeing wants to compete then they have to make a better product and smarter bids.
17 posted on 03/08/2008 5:23:43 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Boblo
Where do we find the real details behind this as opposed to all the political BS.

I suggest you ignore everything that eminates from a Boeing exec, a Washington (Satre of) politician, or with a Seattle dateline.

Tr wasn't even close

Bottom Line Northrop-Grumman/EADS brought their A game and a in existance hardware tanker they have been developing for 5 years to the table.

Boeing were hoping to get the contract because they were Boieng, and use it to pay for the development of the 767LRF.

18 posted on 03/08/2008 5:25:21 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Never say yer sorry, mister. It's a sign of weakness)
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To: tobyhill
If Hitler or Hussein gets into the white house Boeing will be building kiddy cars for supposedly disadvantaged chillen.
19 posted on 03/08/2008 5:30:10 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Boblo

They will be hard to find as long as a legal dispute is in the air. OBTW this wouldn’t be the first time an ‘entitled’ corporation lost out on a best-value basis, if that’s what happened. Build a better product, and the buyers will come.


20 posted on 03/08/2008 5:31:59 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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