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Handgun problem can't be ignored [Barf Alert]
WCF Courier (Iowa) ^ | 3/9/08 | FRED ABRAHAM

Posted on 03/10/2008 9:41:21 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

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To: Rick.Donaldson

Unfortunately, we seem to be unable to separate an acceptable purpose for firearm ownership — recreation — from an unacceptable one — killing people.

Once again, The second amendment has absolutely NOTHING to with hunting!


21 posted on 03/10/2008 10:05:42 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (Still old, still crabby and still resisting CHANGE.)
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To: bill1952

The author is a dumbass, what can we say? LOL

Criminals will STILL GET GUNS. If you ban and collect every gun you can find, CRIMINALS will still find them, use them and rob, murder or maim people.

My right to keep and bear arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Not by the Congress, nor by “society”. Screw these Liberal idiots.


22 posted on 03/10/2008 10:05:53 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Over a third of all police officers who die in the line of duty each year are shot, mostly by handguns. Clearly, handguns criminals are a problem, yet we do little about them.

There -- fixed it.

The rare occasions when handguns actually do protect safety — and this seldom happens — are far outweighed by deaths caused by them.

What cave has this cretin been living in? Handguns save lives as well as deter potentially fatal attacks by criminal riff-raff every single day of the year. Oh, I forgot. Those incidences were merely the "acting out" of disenfranchised yoots who actively protest the unfair state of society the only way they know how. Crime can only be defined if it involves racial or homophobic hatred.

23 posted on 03/10/2008 10:06:18 AM PDT by shezza (WWRD?)
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To: andy58-in-nh

not yet, but i will be very soon....now i guess i have no problem with handguns......


24 posted on 03/10/2008 10:07:57 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Screw McPain....J. Fred Muggs for POTUS)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Interpersonal conflicts are much the same way. When disagreements get heated and violent, the violence frequently escalates to firearms and someone gets shot. Without the gun, there may be a fistfight but those are usually not as deadly. Do you remember when handguns were called “Saturday Night Specials?” It was a reference to guns used when domestic disputes resulted in violence. Tempers flared and the result was a shooting. But, no gun, no shooting. And have you ever heard of a drive-by stabbing?

Umm... No, dumbass-author, "Saturday night specials" were called that because they were cheaply made guns that usually fall apart in your hands after fired once or twice.....


And the term also had a racial context. The first citzens to have their 2nd Amendment rights attacked were minorities. Saturday Night Specials bans were just another minority based ban that migrated to other citizens.
25 posted on 03/10/2008 10:08:05 AM PDT by rickomatic
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To: kiriath_jearim
An armed society is a polite society.......

molon labe

26 posted on 03/10/2008 10:08:52 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: gjeiii

The way I read this is.. “Guns are bad. Americans use guns more than anyone else. Get rid of guns.”

That’s pretty obvious. As for making his argument unnecessary... Yes, I think it does.

If “Americans” are doing violence against others, then those others ought to be equally armed to prevent that violence. Simple as that.

:)


27 posted on 03/10/2008 10:11:31 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Typical leftwing nonsense. We need to do something about handguns? You mean the over 2000 separate laws already on the books are not working?
Hum. If the anti handgun laws are not working,THEN THAT MAY MEAN THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE TOOL BUT THE PEOPLE THAT USE THE TOOL.
Of course that little piece of common sense never resonates with the anti gunners.
The use of the handgun over the shotgun argument is a loser.
If these nut bags wanted to murder a lot of people fast and did not get access to a handgun then the next step is IED’s Anthrax, or some other mass murder weapon.
No thanks. We do not need more guns laws. We need to allow all free citizens to do what their forefathers desired for them. To be able to protect themselves.
28 posted on 03/10/2008 10:11:46 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Patriot Guard Riders - Standing for those that stood for us.)
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To: Osage Orange

molon labe

Aye...


29 posted on 03/10/2008 10:15:52 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: joe fonebone

I have the police service model with a 4” barrel. Not quite as compact, but less bulky than the comparable SIG or Glock. Check it out at a friendly firearms dealer near you. ;-)


30 posted on 03/10/2008 10:15:57 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: robertpaulsen

Come on coward. Step up to the plate and defend this guy. You’re a worm.


31 posted on 03/10/2008 10:17:15 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

“So what can we do? One approach would be to allow the manufacture and sale of handguns only to law enforcement agencies. That would not infringe upon the right to “keep and bear arms”

And only allowing politicians to talk politics would not infringe on freedom of speech.


32 posted on 03/10/2008 10:17:19 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
I have only one problem with handguns...I don't have enough of them. Photobucket
33 posted on 03/10/2008 10:19:21 AM PDT by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: andy58-in-nh

just went to the website and took a look....i like it in the .40 cal.......i will check it out for finger fit ( looks like it will work)


34 posted on 03/10/2008 10:19:49 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Screw McPain....J. Fred Muggs for POTUS)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Are you aware that "Saturday Night Special" is a racist term?

According to historian Clayton Cramer (IIRC) the term is derived from very cheap, small .25 cal pistols and .32 cal revolvers, which were described as being only good for "N***ertown Saturday Night" (ie used to resolve bar or brothel fights).

Gun control in America has at least some of its origin in racial bigotry.

FWIW.

35 posted on 03/10/2008 10:20:46 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
It’s primarily handguns.

OK then, I'll give up my handgun but let me carry my shotgun concealed, ok?

Only problem with that is the same old tired statement: "Is that a shotgun down your pantleg or are you just happy to see me......?"

36 posted on 03/10/2008 10:20:52 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco ( Don’t go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

I have an XD9 with a 4-inch barrel...was shooting it yesterday. Great firearm.


37 posted on 03/10/2008 10:22:25 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Liberal projection never ceases to amaze me. "I can't be trusted with a (gasp) gun so neither can you."
38 posted on 03/10/2008 10:23:16 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Archon of the East
Wasn't there this crazy British guy who sliced-and-diced his way across London a hundred and some years ago? Jack somebody?

Better ban steak knives!

39 posted on 03/10/2008 10:26:25 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: Cuttnhorse
Love my XD9 subcompact, it's a constant companion.

Springfield got it right with that design...a refined Glock with easy Sig field stripping.

40 posted on 03/10/2008 10:27:01 AM PDT by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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