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GOP aims to force immigration debate
The Washington Times ^ | March 11, 2008 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 03/11/2008 6:35:16 AM PDT by Delacon

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To: Slump Tester
Excellent summation of the problems with McCain and you are spot on. You are a precious logical thinker among us. As for myself, because of his history, I can't trust McCain even if he does recant his position on amnesty and will either do write in, work for true conservatives in both houses, or not vote.

There is a reason that former POWs will not sit down at the same table with him. Step back and take into consideration what he has done to conservatives and the Constitution and you people may realize why the reluctance of conservatives to support him. Because of what he has done in the Senate, I will definitely not vote for him which would constitute my sitting down at the same table with him.

Have at it .... I'm off to some shopping while I can still afford the diesel fuel.

41 posted on 03/11/2008 9:20:59 AM PDT by Old Badger (Both houses of Congress: Clean sweep-down Fore and Aft!)
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To: Delacon

Do what’s right Republicans and America will come back to you. This election is very important but the financial pain of America is coming like a tsunami from all directions. Illegal aliens have been draining the system for decades.

First, enforce the law, the jobs will dry up and most Mexicans will go home. Fine businesses that hire them thousands of dollars per incident and make plenty of examples.

Then, register illegals over a span of a year to become citizens. It is THEIR responsibility to show up for processing, not the States or local communities. Make several federal announcements and when the cuttoff comes, it comes and is done.

Over a three year span they must learn English (on their own dime so they can take the nationalization test without a spanish intepretor) and not commit a Felony of any sort or Class A Misdameanors (or you get deported immediately). After this phase, issue SS cards and offer job training, but no welfare freebies. These will become tax-paying, responsible voters that understand our rule of law and must rely on the benevolence of our population like so many immigrants had to in the past.

The last leg of the journey is to declare war on the gangs, the dregs that refused to register. They will be very easy to spot.

Forget the fence, it’s a waste of money. Use the National Guard along the border and Hueys, radar and sonar to detect violators. When violators are captured, transport them to the very bottom of Mexico like Ike did in the 1950’s. This is FAR cheaper then incarcerating them or just dumping them back on the border where they will simply try again. Attempts to cross the border cost money. After the first failed attempt they will be broke and have to spend whatever remaining dollars getting from Southern Mexico back to their families. As a side benefit, the Guard will also get some very valuable training in the process.

You had best serve the nation properly to get through these problems and start showing some balls, this move is a good start.

The majority does not want illegal invasion, stop listening to the left wing media ilk. The financial pain will begin to put an end to the PC crap going on in America as the Middle Class has awakened to the fact that we are now Lower Class citizens. Responsible American Patriots that love this country are now openly discussing if we need to overrun Washington if this kind of corrupt, oligarchy-AmeriKa style government continues to behave in such fashion for too much longer.

However, We the People will support the party and attempt the democratic process as plan A. A revolution is a nasty, distasteful affair but to any true American it is always plan B.

Patriotic, educated American’s have begun feeling we have no real leadership left, only crooks on both sides putting our entire American way of life in mortal peril. Reconnect with the people, do lots of public broadcasting that you’re the American party first and not disconnected from the masses, having tea parties and vacations. This may not be true but many people THINK it is and you had best use you’re leverage to demonstrate otherwise or we will have Dem’s in power driving the nation into the ground until plan B occurs or our enemies do the job.


42 posted on 03/11/2008 9:30:01 AM PDT by quant5
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First, enforce the law, the jobs will dry up and most Mexicans will go home.

That's the meat of it right there along with making it painfull for employers to keep hiring them.
43 posted on 03/11/2008 9:31:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: Delacon

McCain and his fellow RINOs just plain do not get it and do not want to get it. They are determined to force it down our throats! And McCain still has Dr. Juan Hernandez, the notorious radical open borders advocate on his advisory staff. If any of the three leading candidates get into the White House, they will push amnesty on us and illegals won’t have to go to the end of the line and wait their turn to immigrate LEGALLY like everyone else.


44 posted on 03/11/2008 10:11:48 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Changing things in Washington is not unlike changing a baby’s diaper. It gets dirty again.)
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To: Delacon

thanks, bfl


45 posted on 03/11/2008 10:58:02 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: W04Man
John McCain's latest statements on Illegals 3/7/08:

"no one who came here illegally would have any precedence over someone who either came legally, or waited legally..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrHr8Az4t0U

http://Vets4McCain.com

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This is actually pretty good. For McCain people on the board it would be helpful to push John to promote a crash water desalination & transport policy to dovetail with his promise to take the USA off dependency on foreign oil within 5 years.

If water desalination and tranport were 1/10th current costs you would be in a position to turn the deserts of Mexico green and triple the habitable size of that country. The same technology would increase the habitable size of the USA by 1/3.

Research in this field already promises to deliver.

Federal research guidlines are already enabling more research dollars to go toward desalination research.

Here is a discussion of proposals for targeting further federal dollars at desalination research in the context of McCain's discussion of the need for energy independence.
46 posted on 03/11/2008 11:05:21 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Delacon

BTTT


47 posted on 03/11/2008 10:54:27 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: W04Man

“no one who came here illegally would have any precedence over someone who either came legally, or waited legally...”

Did he actually say that with a straight face?


48 posted on 03/12/2008 1:17:52 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: Slump Tester
This is really dishonest.

Just ASSUMING, lock/stock/barrel without any discussion, that we all want the fence BEFORE WE LEGALIZE ALL THE ILLEGALS.

What sense does THAT make?

It means:

OUTRIGHT AMNESTY

and

It means, once they are legalized, they will petition another 20 million or more of their RELATIVES to come into the United States.

JOHN MCCAIN, YOU BIG DUMBASS, here are your orders from your bosses, the American People. They are simple. They are only two.

1. FENCE/WALL/IMPENETRABLE BORDER FIRST AND FOREMOST, LIKE YESTERDAY

and

2. NO AMNESTY AT ALL. FENCE OR NO FENCE. DEPORTATIONS THROUGH GOVERNMENT ACTION AND ATTRITION/SELF-DEPORTATION OF THE 20 MILLION OR SO HERE

49 posted on 03/12/2008 4:58:00 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (The GOP serves a huge cr*p sandwich every 4 years to Conservatives, & sez "shut up!, no choice!")
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